gamla Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) Evening All Has anyone out there got the skills/maths ability/time! to work out the permutations, to decide whether it IS actually possible for us to be relegated or finish in the play off position, given we now know the make up of the bottom 6, points differential and number of games to go? Any thoughts welcomed! Edited April 8, 2017 by gamla 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme S Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Surely its one for "mathematics"? I say forget about others results and make sure we put points on the board in the last pre split and early on post split. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 We lose all games, so that's three points closer for all, each another win each and we finish second bottom. Just from a quick look 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 We're only five points off 11th. Doesn't take much to work out we are still right in the relegation fight. Nowhere near safe with six games left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 If we lost every game from now until the end of the season ICT would need two wins and a draw from their other five fixtures, Accies and Well would need one, Dundee two draws, and County would be past us just by beating us. Im presuming this is all possible which would see us bottom and that's not taking into account goal difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 On the other side a win against Hearts on Friday would move us five ahead of County, Seven ahead of Dundee, Eight ahead of Hamilton and Motherwell and Twelve ahead of Inverness. Dundee play Accies and Motherwell play ICT on the Saturday then County face Celtic on Sunday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) With Motherwell V ICT on Sat, at least one of them is guaranteed to pick up points next week or a point a piece of it's a draw..... Edited April 8, 2017 by C4mmy31 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 The arse is still twitching but we are a game closer to safety after a pretty much ideal set of results today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 If we get to 40pts it would be next to impossible to finish in the bottom 2, given the other teams have to take points off each other.Would be great to get a win v Hearts, and then hopefully start with another home win post-split., giving us 4 matches of breathing space. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 I agree. 40pts has to be immediate target and the quicker we get there the better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_geezer Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) Can't anyone work an Excel spreadsheet? It's not difficult, I could do them in my sleep 20 years ago . Now I get the trainee girls to churn them out and pretend to be interested in the results . Edited April 8, 2017 by diamond_geezer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_geezer Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 When I say "trainee girls " I don't actually mean that . As far as I can see , they are girls already, but who can tell these days ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, diamond_geezer said: When I say "trainee girls " I don't actually mean that . As far as I can see , they are girls already, but who can tell these days ? The first post was patronising enough without making it worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_geezer Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 One needs to be accurate old thing . Patronising or not . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 13 hours ago, diamond_geezer said: Can't anyone work an Excel spreadsheet? It's not difficult, I could do them in my sleep 20 years ago . Now I get the trainee girls to churn them out and pretend to be interested in the results . Wow, you sound like a big deal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy_boy Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 I belive the technical term is "big cheese down at the office". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 18 hours ago, gamla said: Evening All Has anyone out there got the skills/maths ability/time! to work out the permutations, to decide whether it IS actually possible for us to be relegated or finish in the play off position, given we now know the make up of the bottom 6, points differential and number of games to go? Any thoughts welcomed! We can easily finish bottom. Lose the next six games, RC can easily pick up three points, Dundee can easily pick up five, Motherwell and Hamilton pick up six (not too hard) and ICT would need to go on an amazing run, but still only need ten points from a possible 18. A quick run through of fixtures could provide (with ICT winning all their matched and Killie losing theirs, for example): Ross County 40, Motherwell 39, ICT 39, Dundee 37, Hamilton 36, Killie 34. Won't happen though. p.s. Didn't even need to use excel, cause I'm an even bigger deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 What you could do, if you were really interested, is write a wee script to run through every permutation of the next six games and then calculate the probability from those events that we finish bottom, or finish in the playoff place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy_boy Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 1 hour ago, mathematics said: What you could do, if you were really interested, is write a wee script to run through every permutation of the next six games and then calculate the probability from those events that we finish bottom, or finish in the playoff place. Wouldnt you need some kind of wee trainee lassie to do such a thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 All the major betting markets have us clear sixth favourites for bottom place. Typical odds - ICT 11/10 Accies 3-1 Well 7-2 Dundee 11-1 Rossco 25-1 Killie 33-1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 Charlie Christie had this Inverness team as the worst ICT team he'd seen. It's difficult to get him off the fence on open all mics then he blurted that from out of nowhere yesterday. Reckon they have to be favourites for the drop. Accies have been over the course before and much as I'd love to see them go down I have a suspicion they may finish ninth. County have enough quality in there side if they can click again they will be well safe. Hopefully we stay ahead of the race. That leaves Well and Dundee. Motherwell have the goals in their side that could be invaluable. Dundee are on a horrific run of form. So before a ball is kicked I fancy them for the playoff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casual observer Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 A Dundee derby double-header in the playoffs would be a giggle! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) Part of me thinks that Accies' luck may run out. However, if it wasn't where it is in the season, I think Hartley would be in danger. They will stick with him and I wonder if they can stop the rot. Their match at home to Accies next week will tell a lot. Edited April 9, 2017 by skygod 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch14 Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 What's giving me hope is that we are doing sort of OK but not finishing teams off. Motherwell and Dundee fans I know are very worried as they say their teams have been dreadful, no arguments about being unlucky etc. The worry is that everyones form sort of resets after the split. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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