Mclean07 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: A clown like that got elected for decades in Irvine. I know, and then we think Scottish people aren't racist? Not nice. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 There are some people so determined that their way of life won't ever change that they still feel free to chant about black bastards in 2018. They then say all it means is dirty. It's hard to believe the lack of self awareness. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Individually Scots can be just as tribal (the trendy curse word now is "racist") as any homo sapiens are from any other part of the globe. What a shocker, eh? Who would have thunk it? In my experience, the less "educated" a person is the less well practiced they are in keeping their tribal instincts out of public view. And let's face it, Labour has a shed load of less "educated" representatives. By spooky contrast Wee Roofie is so well "educated" that she has trouble coming across as "conservative" at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhamkillieken Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 all political parties have their idiots, if you think your party is bereft of idiots then I have news for you, its you! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, gdevoy said: Individually Scots can be just as tribal (the trendy curse word now is "racist") as any homo sapiens are from any other part of the globe. What a shocker, eh? Who would have thunk it? In my experience, the less "educated" a person is the less well practiced they are in keeping their tribal instincts out of public view. And let's face it, Labour has a shed load of less "educated" representatives. By spooky contrast Wee Roofie is so well "educated" that she has trouble coming across as "conservative" at all. And in another spooky coincidence the most racist segment of society voted to remain British rather become Scots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAG Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bhamkillieken said: all political parties have their idiots, if you think your party is bereft of idiots then I have news for you, its you! Aye but, this councillors been accused of racially abusing 6 year old girls in chip shops. He should be booted out of Labour and politics, not somehow excused cos the rest of society is less than perfect! We don't want cretins like him in public office, is pathetic the unionist papers are giving him a staged photo-shoot PR rehabilitation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 There are some people who revel in condemning fellow Killie fans for contrived offensiveness but will not condemn their Labour brethren for ACTUAL racism. It's a funny old game this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhamkillieken Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, RAG said: Aye but, this councillors been accused of racially abusing 6 year old girls in chip shops. He should be booted out of Labour and politics, not somehow excused cos the rest of society is less than perfect! We don't want cretins like him in public office, is pathetic the unionist papers are giving him a staged photo-shoot PR rehabilitation. i agree, if he did do it then kick him out. in general i find the current trend of people bringing up things from decades ago pretty conerning especially when its one persons word against another. did these kids no go back and tell theri parents about what was going on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcilroy56 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Scooter said: There are some people who revel in condemning fellow Killie fans for contrived offensiveness but will not condemn their Labour brethren for ACTUAL racism. It's a funny old game this! Probably the same person sang those words to the song back in the 70’s and 80’s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Mcilroy56 said: Probably the same person sang those words to the song back in the 70’s and 80’s Probably the same person who uses derogatory names for homosexual men. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 23 hours ago, Zorro said: And in another spooky coincidence the most racist segment of society voted to remain British rather become Scots. You've no proof of that, but your problem is they're still as Scottish as you. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, mathematics said: Probably the same person who uses derogatory names for homosexual men. Yawn...... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, Scooter said: There are some people who revel in condemning fellow Killie fans for contrived offensiveness but will not condemn their Labour brethren for ACTUAL racism. It's a funny old game this! And there are people who think it's only the OF who should adapt to modern times. Seriously can't belueve how wilfully blind people are being with this issue. "Don't worry about us saying black bastard, it just means dirty". Imagine actually having that conversation with a black person. To see ourselves as ithers see us. Edited March 23, 2018 by Mclean07 -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 11 hours ago, Mcilroy56 said: Probably the same person sang those words to the song back in the 70’s and 80’s It's quite possible. But you're meant to realise as you grow up and times change what is no longer acceptable. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Posted by a good Killie man and liked by two Killie men. All proud to be practical centre left. Solid achievements for ordinary people. Corbyn will do well to better it, and the Nats never will. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: Posted by a good Killie man and liked by two Killie men. All proud to be practical centre left. Solid achievements for ordinary people. Corbyn will do well to better it, and the Nats never will. Google "Gordon Brown pensions" , his achievements don't look quite so solid. I think Gordon Brown was a wolf in sheep's clothing. He got a lot of sympathy for his personal and family circumstances but beneath that he was manipulative and complicit in the decision to support the US on invading Iraq. Anyway, being a good "Killie man" doesn't mean that I should agree with their political or personal view on life. Edited March 23, 2018 by Wrangodog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harley Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 53 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: Yawn...... hahahahaha. You have the cheek to reply Yawn to somebody else's post. This is exactly what you do with all your stupid & pointless "they are all Scottish" posts". Get a f**king life instead of supporting your racist party. Come back when your party actually disciplines or flings out some of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mclean07 said: Imagine actually having that conversation with a black person. To see ourselves as ithers see us. Can't believe how arificially affected you are by this. It's aimed at our mockit rivals and not at black people for that very reason though, you do realise that eh!? So what do you think should happen to Gaffney and Dempster, or you still wilfully blind to their comments? Edited March 23, 2018 by Scooter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Mclean07 said: You've no proof of that, but your problem is they're still as Scottish as you. These people see themselves as British, who am I to argue with them? At least they’re honest with themselves. Not like those 80 minutes/90 minutes, and until recently 5 sets, “patriots”. They’re some mixed up people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, harley said: hahahahaha. You have the cheek to reply Yawn to somebody else's post. This is exactly what you do with all your stupid & pointless "they are all Scottish" posts". Get a f**king life instead of supporting your racist party. Come back when your party actually disciplines or flings out some of them. You forgot sectarian, those labourites hate Jews too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcilroy56 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Mclean07 said: It's quite possible. But you're meant to realise as you grow up and times change what is no longer acceptable. Absolutely, gold star for admitting your shameful youth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Mcilroy56 said: Absolutely, gold star for admitting your shameful youth. I said it's possible. You see the difference between normal people and Nats, Brexiters and Republicans, is that they admit they are sometimes wrong and don't always know all the answers. It's a trait that I think the SNP need to adopt as it might make them more appealing to the people they're trying to convert. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Wrangodog said: Google "Gordon Brown pensions" , his achievements don't look quite so solid. I think Gordon Brown was a wolf in sheep's clothing. He got a lot of sympathy for his personal and family circumstances but beneath that he was manipulative and complicit in the decision to support the US on invading Iraq. Anyway, being a good "Killie man" doesn't mean that I should agree with their political or personal view on life. His pension decision was closing a tax loophole to have more available for public services. It was then seized upon as an excuse by big business to do what they were going to do anyway. Even if it was a mistake ( which it wasn't ) he achieved a great deal in alleviating child, pensioner, and world poverty, working tirelessly to reduce third world debt. He was far from perfect but his motives were good. Any fair minded person would acknowledge the funding of the NHS, sure start etc, As soon as the Tories got in all of these figures started to go back the way, and continue to do so. Unfortunately, all the stupid red Tory talk gives them a free pass, kidding that their no different to Labour. I tried to tempt my two Killie colleagues back in to the political forum, as they were previously, to bring a bit of balance.They said it wasn't worth debating with a group of brainwashed Nat zoomers, tempting though it is. They were probably correct. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcilroy56 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Mclean07 said: I said it's possible. You see the difference between normal people and Nats, Brexiters and Republicans, is that they admit they are sometimes wrong and don't always know all the answers. It's a trait that I think the SNP need to adopt as it might make them more appealing to the people they're trying to convert. Is that why labour have been losing votes by the tens of thousands, because they always admit they are wrong if you are classed as normal god help us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 54 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: His pension decision was closing a tax loophole to have more available for public services. It was then seized upon as an excuse by big business to do what they were going to do anyway. Even if it was a mistake ( which it wasn't ) he achieved a great deal in alleviating child, pensioner, and world poverty, working tirelessly to reduce third world debt. He was far from perfect but his motives were good. Any fair minded person would acknowledge the funding of the NHS, sure start etc, As soon as the Tories got in all of these figures started to go back the way, and continue to do so. Unfortunately, all the stupid red Tory talk gives them a free pass, kidding that their no different to Labour. I tried to tempt my two Killie colleagues back in to the political forum, as they were previously, to bring a bit of balance.They said it wasn't worth debating with a group of brainwashed Nat zoomers, tempting though it is. They were probably correct. No response about Iraq ? He now claims the US duped Blair and his government, Robin Cook wasn't fooled, the majority of British people weren't fooled. I am not a Nat zoomer, I find fault in many of their policies, but in general they are better than the unelectables, illiterates, and racists, currently representing the Labour Party in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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