Riverplatekillie Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 If we fail to win next week against Ross County then surely Jig and Leven must fall on their sword and do the decent thing and go,results and performances are utterly deploreable. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 You know what happens when teams are desperate for a win, when they play us...right? An ex Killie player in their team to score the winner too... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojike and Bod Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Nothing will happen. The boards main concern is when the nice new Exec box will be ready so they can serve beef wellington to their pals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Today was must win and not getting the result heaps even more pressure on us to win next week. Hearts have done us a favour today keeping Partick level on points. Accies, Dundee and County aren’t too far away but I’d much rather close that gap now than sit points behind for any longer. Its not nice to say but I hope McCulloch is under pressure. What has been served up since the Ayr game has been nowhere near acceptable. It’d be even more worrying if anyone within the club think that anything we’ve seen so far this season is good enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD1989KTID Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Next week is a must win. . . but I said that about today and Hamilton. I keep thinking about Thomas and his comments he made when he first joined us. Stephen Robinson and the Motherwell staff were trying to make him think about his role defensively as well as going forward and he didn't like this. said when I joined killie McCulloch told him just to play like he was in the playground. I watched Motherwell against Aberdeen the other night and they were incredible. I watched us today and we looked like a bunch of kids playing in the playground 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Next week ? ..odds on we will see yet another different line up and attempt at another different formation / tactic ....as LM tries vainly to make sense of , on the evidence so far - the large budget he has squandered ...or is it not properly made use of.. A good win may be a turning point and the team go on a winning run.. but there has been little seen so far to suggest we are capable of doing that.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 McCulloch's win rate must be getting to the stage where it is worse than Johnston's, Locke's and Clark's. If we don't win next week at home to County then he has to go. He's only won about 3 league games as manager and sadly there isn't a team in the league I expect us to beat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 That team today looked more disjointed than when Gary-eh was here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Miller Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Our Subbuteo midfield will never control a game at this level. If you don't win tackles on a regular basis, then there is precious little hope of creating much. On another point - I wonder who would win a race between Boyd and Erwin ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbk Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 Our board allowed our manager to buy the new players this season and from what we have seen so far they have backed a non runner with maybe one or two exceptions and next week's game against rossco should be his last roll of the dice! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepies Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 12 hours ago, Scouser2 said: Next week ? ..odds on we will see yet another different line up and attempt at another different formation / tactic ....as LM tries vainly to make sense of , on the evidence so far - the large budget he has squandered ...or is it not properly made use of.. A good win may be a turning point and the team go on a winning run.. but there has been little seen so far to suggest we are capable of doing that.. Large budget compared to who ? .Ross County are bankrolled by there chairman so I doubt it's bigger than there's.To my knowledge all McCullochs signings have been out of contract players or frees with no transfer fees involved .Even Hamilton managed to pay a transfer fee.Bad signings maybe but when you are dealing in that market that's what happens a kind of pound shop player,there might be a gem there but more likely not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killie alan Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Long gone are the days when we paid transfer fees. The best ever was £300,000 for Paul wright. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon19 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 With all the talk of the next game being season defining for LM you just know he will pull a " Gary Locke " and somehow spawn a win and we will be stuck with him for a little while longer . I was one of Lee's biggest proponents but it's time to cut our losses asap. The problem Killie have is that we have a weak board with very little experience in football. I wonder what Monty's opinion is on LM ? Would the board even have the insight to ask him? Or do they see him as just a meet and greet guy for the prawn sandwich brigade ? When LM goes this board need to realise that our next manager must be experienced at the level of football that we are operating in and the Aldi option isn't going to cut it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Higher Budget as in wages.... ..the outlay this season is far higher than recent years .both in the playing squad and backroom staff ...and would not be too surprised if in relative terms higher than few other teams LM was backed by the board and decent wages are getting paid to number of the new players .....question is was this playing budget utilised correctly... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffer Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Scouser2 said: Higher Budget as in wages.... ..the outlay this season is far higher than recent years .both in the playing squad and backroom staff ...and would not be too surprised if in relative terms higher than few other teams LM was backed by the board and decent wages are getting paid to number of the new players .....question is was this playing budget utilised correctly... NO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, Scouser2 said: Higher Budget as in wages.... ..the outlay this season is far higher than recent years .both in the playing squad and backroom staff ...and would not be too surprised if in relative terms higher than few other teams LM was backed by the board and decent wages are getting paid to number of the new players .....question is was this playing budget utilised correctly... Celtic Rangers Aberdeen Hearts Hibernian Ross County Dundee Teams above will have a significantly higher wage structure than us. I would imagine we are operating in same area as the remaining sides with exception to Hamilton as their budget likely is mid level Championship. I agree with what you said re wages being utilised correctly as SJFC have managed to put a fantastic side on the park by operating with a smaller squad. However, on paper I was pleased with almost all signings Lee had made. There is no way that side is a bottom of the league side, but it is a side with no confidence and no clear gameplan. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD1989KTID Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 I think going forward I have a plan for success. . . When Lee McCulloch goes we should give Peter Leven the job on a temporary basis. Maybe he'll scrape a few decent results in the short term and then we should drag out the will he won't take the job permanently for a few weeks before appointing him on a 3 year contract. It's bulletproof. only thing I would suggest to guarantee this plan definitely works is we should ensure Leven is allowed to appoint his own assistant. This assistant shouldn't have any previous experience but should be good pals with Leven. Oh and to fully ensure success Leven should get rid of 90% of the squad next summer and sign an entire new squad of players Then in the late autumn/early winter of the 2018 season we should appoint Leven's assistant as temporary manager. . . before giving him the job permanently on a 3 year deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 Who is out there that would want to manage us ? Another ex-Jambo, Pressley, the unlovable Paul Hartley, Yogi Hughes ? Or go for more inexperience with Gary Holt, with the experienced Gus as his assistant ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 I think there is not a lot of chance of a +ve result next week. We have a Subbuteo midfield and forwards who could not run for a bus. However I don't think LM feels his job is in any doubt "as we just need time to gel". I don't expect things to get better any time soon because they have not bottomed out yet. There is no real abuse from the stands, and there is no sense that the RP faithful are dissatisfied with watching their team get gubbed every week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJout Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 56 minutes ago, gdevoy said: I think there is not a lot of chance of a +ve result next week. We have a Subbuteo midfield and forwards who could not run for a bus. However I don't think LM feels his job is in any doubt "as we just need time to gel". I don't expect things to get better any time soon because they have not bottomed out yet. There is no real abuse from the stands, and there is no sense that the RP faithful are dissatisfied with watching their team get gubbed every week. We are not actually getting gubbed every week. Last two games have been draws. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 It was worrying that a lot of people in the stands were accepting this might be our year yesterday. I wonder if people aren’t being vocal because they know McCulloch is the boards man. They were desperate to give him the job. They appear to have ignored all other candidates in the process. And they will likely give him every opportunity to get things right. Unfortunately things could get really really bad before they realise he won’t. With the lack of football people on the board and within the clubs hierarchy I worry that they actually believe what the manager is saying. Jig has used the “we’re not far away” line, “we need time to gel”, “there were plenty of positives”. Do the board have the knowledge or advisor to know if this is true or if he’s spinning them a line. So far you’ve got to say he’s talking crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killie alan Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 We definitely need someone on the board who has football experience or a director of football to advise them. Soon the honeymoon period will be over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 45 minutes ago, MJout said: We are not actually getting gubbed every week. Last two games have been draws. Against the likes of Hamilton and Dundee we should be doing a lot better than scraping a draw at home. It feels like we are getting gubbed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Killie alan said: We definitely need someone on the board who has football experience or a director of football to advise them. Soon the honeymoon period will be over. MJ was undoubtedly a total tosser who held the fans in contempt but he had more background and experience at this game than the current board. Mind you that would not be hard. Bowie needs someone who knows the game on the board pronto. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killie alan Posted September 24, 2017 Report Share Posted September 24, 2017 1 hour ago, gdevoy said: MJ was undoubtedly a total tosser who held the fans in contempt but he had more background and experience at this game than the current board. Mind you that would not be hard. Bowie needs someone who knows the game on the board pronto. Your so right mate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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