Maverick11 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) Would you sell Rugby Park if you had the chance to create a new smaller stadium and adjoining training facilities? Posted the following in the middle of the thread but thought it would be better placed at the front end: Roughly you would probably get £2.8-3.5m for the land (excluding the hotel). Maybe another £0.8-1m if you include the hotel. (Based on Net Land Value of circa £350k per Net Developable Acre) That's £3.6m-£4.5m Billy Bowie is currently looking to spend significant monies ("as much as is needed") to meet Project Brave criteria which could be another £2m if conjectured figures are to be believed. So that's £5.6-£6.5m My view is that funding could also be leveraged from Sport Scotland/East Ayrshire Council and Scottish Government given scale of job losses in Kilmarnock and surrounding areas (proven through Project Halo) New St Mirren Park cost £8m Would it really be that unachievable? Edited October 4, 2017 by Maverick11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartankillie Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 I would go for starting again at rugby park. Could we not demolish and rebuild one stand at a time over a few years. I know it's down to cash but if the money was there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Bit of a last resort. We should be looking at ways into moving fans into certain areas of the stadium to create more of at an atmosphere. We should look at maybe closing off the back third of the east. Put more fans together but keeping enough open to get fans out of heavy rain when it occurs. Get fans closer to the pitch should be a must though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack broon Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Rugby Park is a massive Blue Elephant and unfortunately it looks like we're stuck with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Why not just remove every second line of seats all through the stadium, starting with the East Stand. The increased space would mean a reduction in misery and doctor's lines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmullin88 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 We really need a staudium the size of Livingston or St Mirren - atmosphere is better at most junior grounds in Ayrshire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Who would you sell it to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack broon Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zorro said: Who would you sell it to? Developers, it's in a "sought after" part of town And it sits on a fair sized plot of land which should be worth a bob or two 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 IMO we could get real money for it as it is in a sought after area. I would re-visit the original idea Fleeting had of moving to Scott Ellis on the North side of the river and build a 10,000 stadium with decent access straight off the bypass for visiting fans. Apparently it only fell through because somebody wold not sell a tiny area which was vital to the plan. Also the clown touncil could waken up too and realise the only way to sell the town all over the country is through the SPFL team. Someone from the Black Country in the Midlands only knew of Kilmarnock because the have a football team. Some help from them could be a plus. And we could have real grass too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, jack broon said: Developers, it's in a "sought after" part of town And it sits on a fair sized plot of land which should be worth a bob or two Having considered how much developers paid for the land the flats occupy, adjusted for inflation, multipled by the size of the site and concluded we’d probably be looking at a new stadium with one stand, if someone was generous enough to donate us some free land, I’ll pass at this time. If we were leaving Rugby Park, it would need to be a joint venture imo. Otherwise I don’t think it’s viable in the current market. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack broon Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) You may be right In reply to Zorro Edited October 4, 2017 by jack broon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilm53 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Did Marie Macklin not want to do this a few years ago..a 10,000 seater new stadium wo7ld be big enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 44 minutes ago, jasper said: Why not just remove every second line of seats all through the stadium, starting with the East Stand. The increased space would mean a reduction in misery and doctor's lines. On the contrary, Crosshouse A & E would be swamped with broken and sprained ankle injuries! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby14 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 The problem with closing the top tier is the exposure to the elements. There must be some viable engineering solution to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 minute ago, kilm53 said: Did Marie Macklin not want to do this a few years ago..a 10,000 seater new stadium wo7ld be big enough Wasn’t that just a scare story so fans wouldn’t unite behind her bid? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGHT and BLUE Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 No.No As soon as MJ goes crowds will be back to five figures, and money will be flooding in. Well, that's what was said on here? -10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, WIGHT and BLUE said: No.No As soon as MJ goes crowds will be back to five figures, and money will be flooding in. Well, that's what was said on here? Link? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan76 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, kilm53 said: Did Marie Macklin not want to do this a few years ago..a 10,000 seater new stadium wo7ld be big enough Yeah, this was in the original plans for her HALO project, but we're shelved and the college took that area of la down she had proposed. To be fair, it would be no use, traffic is bad enough there without dropping a 10,000 seater stadium. I fear we are lumbered with what we have. The likes of St mirren and Livingston got their stadiums thanks to supermarkets buying the land their old stadiums were on, we're not going to get that. Our stadium is way too big for the support we have, a classic example of the Setanta era where money was flowing into Scottish football and we though we could compete with the premiership. What we are left now is a statue to that time and, seemingly the only Scottish football club that fell in to this mistake. At the time it seemed a great idea, big modern stadium, but Scottish football is dying and Rugby Park is the gravestone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGHT and BLUE Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zorro said: Link? You find it.... -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, WIGHT and BLUE said: You find it.... The only result the search function returns is your post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWWnnnnnn! Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, WIGHT and BLUE said: No.No As soon as MJ goes crowds will be back to five figures, and money will be flooding in. Well, that's what was said on here? He's not f**king away! How is this hard to understand, he still holds our club by the balls!?!? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb_506 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, Trojan76 said: Yeah, this was in the original plans for her HALO project, but we're shelved and the college took that area of la down she had proposed. To be fair, it would be no use, traffic is bad enough there without dropping a 10,000 seater stadium. No it wasn't, the HALO project is going ahead, the building itself was never big enough to accommodate a full size football pitch, I read that on here just recently. Amazing how rumours suddenly turn into fact if repeated often enough! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, Bobby14 said: The problem with closing the top tier is the exposure to the elements. There must be some viable engineering solution to that. Close the bottom tier then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan76 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, rb_506 said: No it wasn't, the HALO project is going ahead, the building itself was never big enough to accommodate a full size football pitch, I read that on here just recently. Amazing how rumours suddenly turn into fact if repeated often enough! I know the HALO project is going ahead, but th " sports arena " was included in origin plans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb_506 Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Trojan76 said: I know the HALO project is going ahead, but th " sports arena " was included in origin plans It was a sports arena, the 'pitch' size in the middle was only 3/4 size of a football pitch. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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