diamond_geezer Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I wouldn’t mind so much if he either had anything interesting to say , or could string a coherent sentence together. He’s as dull as a week in Saltcoats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ycfc1922 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, SlimStripey said: Respect is a two way street. If we showed a little more to him he might be inclined to do the same in return. He started it. Na na na na na -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy_boy Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 31 minutes ago, SlimStripey said: Respect is a two way street. If we showed a little more to him he might be inclined to do the same in return. Hes had plenty of respect. Hes ditched us and came back twice and still had said respect. Until this season when hes disrespected us with his media crap. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwai Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 At one point he said something along the lines of "When you look at the current Rangers line up, there's nothing there." He singled out Cardoso (who he could potentially be up against on Wednesday) saying if he was called Billy Smith then he'd be laughed out of Glasgow, but because he's foreign we automatically think he's better than he is. Part of me is hoping SC has give him his blessing to wind up the sevco players to breaking point. I doubt it, though. Realistically though, the red (white and blue) mist descended on Boyd and he shot his mouth off just a couple of days before we play the team he has slagged off. He's just written Caixinha's team talk for him, just exactly as he did before Cathro's struggling Hearts team spanked us. Boyd is one of the best goal scorers we've ever had and a Killie legend, but he cannot be allowed to harm our club through his desire to be a controversial pundit. I seriously hope SC and AD have a word with him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I thought to myself, "I kind of hope Cardoso goes right through him on Wednesday". -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, cammy_boy said: Hes had plenty of respect. Hes ditched us and came back twice and still had said respect. Until this season when hes disrespected us with his media crap. Absolute bs. Your Squirrelhumpers, Skydogs and the rest have done nothing but have a go at the guy since he was a teenager, long before he played for Rangers, or became a pundit, or any of the other excuses they use. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, Mogwai said: At one point he said something along the lines of "When you look at the current Rangers line up, there's nothing there." He singled out Cardoso (who he could potentially be up against on Wednesday) saying if he was called Billy Smith then he'd be laughed out of Glasgow, but because he's foreign we automatically think he's better than he is. Part of me is hoping SC has give him his blessing to wind up the sevco players to breaking point. I doubt it, though. Realistically though, the red (white and blue) mist descended on Boyd and he shot his mouth off just a couple of days before we play the team he has slagged off. He's just written Caixinha's team talk for him, just exactly as he did before Cathro's struggling Hearts team spanked us. Boyd is one of the best goal scorers we've ever had and a Killie legend, but he cannot be allowed to harm our club through his desire to be a controversial pundit. I seriously hope SC and AD have a word with him. Talks up other clubs, have a go at him. Talks negatively about other clubs, still have a go at him. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, skygod said: I thought to myself, "I kind of hope Cardoso goes right through him on Wednesday". Of course you did. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Stu said: Your Squirrelhumpers, Skydogs and the rest have done nothing but have a go at the guy since he was a teenager, long before he played for Rangers, or became a pundit, or any of the other excuses they use. Why would I have had a go at him from teenage onwards? I criticise him for trying to balance two conflicting careers and for no longer being fit enough to play a lone striker role. I don't think we should have signed him the last time, certainly not on a three-year contract. I can justify my criticism - where's your evidence? Edited October 24, 2017 by skygod 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 52 minutes ago, SlimStripey said: His media work is potentially questionable especially with the clear scope for a conflict of interest between clubs but some of the things people say about him are completely out of order I think. What he’s done for us is a phenomenal achievement. Would anyone complain if we had another 18 year old Boyd coming through just now that would deliver the same over the course of his career? I highly doubt it. I don’t blame him for taking a potshot at some of the support with some of the comments he has to endure. So Killie fans speaking out about him being on Sportsound tonight, criticising Caxinha & basically delivering Rangers prematch pep talk is a no no in your eyes is it? 52 minutes ago, SlimStripey said: Respect is a two way street. If we showed a little more to him he might be inclined to do the same in return. So respect from Boyd is to reward the Killie supporters with a GIRFUY when he scored at Firhill is it? I get the impression his past is clouding the present in your mind, judging by your comments. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Stu said: Absolute bs. Your Squirrelhumpers, Skydogs and the rest have done nothing but have a go at the guy since he was a teenager, long before he played for Rangers, or became a pundit, or any of the other excuses they use. Since he was a teenager?? Don't talk sh**e. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwai Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Stu said: Talks up other clubs, have a go at him. Talks negatively about other clubs, still have a go at him. Pish. Boyd is a club legend, but he's not above criticism. This is about timing as much as anything else. We play them in less than 48 hours FFS! How can that be anything but motivational for sevco? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 To be fair, judging with Pedro's comments today I don't think anything he says or Boyd would motivate them. He's called the players out a day after telling the media the defeat was on him. He's a dead man walking now and he's completely lost the changing room. Boyd is on there to talk about the The Rangers, but I concur, timing two days before a match is not ideal. Even if all he said was true... United comment aside (still don't have a clue how he arrived at that conclusion). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin1869 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 8 hours ago, Stu said: Talks up other clubs, have a go at him. Talks negatively about other clubs, still have a go at him. Doesn't talk about other clubs, doesn't have people having a go at him. Hey, I can play this game, too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel4 Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 10 hours ago, Trojan76 said: Couldn't have listened that well, Chick wasn't on it He was last week, which is when my comment was made... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Bullitt said: To be fair, judging with Pedro's comments today I don't think anything he says or Boyd would motivate them. He's called the players out a day after telling the media the defeat was on him. He's a dead man walking now and he's completely lost the changing room. Boyd is on there to talk about the The Rangers, but I concur, timing two days before a match is not ideal. Even if all he said was true... United comment aside (still don't have a clue how he arrived at that conclusion). Agreed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken T Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Seriously does anyone think Rangers will play any better because of what Kris Boyd says? If that's the case they should be begging him to take over from Pedro! Would be better if Boydie could do more of his talking on the park though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Ken T said: Seriously does anyone think Rangers will play any better because of what Kris Boyd says? If that's the case they should be begging him to take over from Pedro! Would be better if Boydie could do more of his talking on the park though. I see he is all over the BBC pages now too. I don't disagree with any comments Boyd has made. His analysis 100% correct IMO. I just don't think as a Kilmarnock player in the same league as Rankers he should be making any public comment on the state of an opposition team. His focus should be on selling his own club, KFC, in the meeja trying to build up interest and increase attendances. It is incredibly self indulgent for him to be so focused on the state of his boyhood hero's. I'll try to explain what I am saying through the use of an analogy, I have little hope that anyone will understand what I am getting at. Suppose you had gone out with some girl at school who turned out to be a total basket case and was all over the meeja because of drink and drugs issues. Meanwhile you are now happily married to a stable person with children to think of. The meeja are clearly gaging for you to give your view at length. I think any sensible person would avoid that like the plague in the interests of the wellbeing of their current family and their current relationship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Boyd certainly helped Ian Cathro deliver his finest 90 minutes in the Tynecastle dugout. These kind of comments do motivate players there is no doubt about that. Also, his comment about Dundee United was totally ludicrous and was the sort of thing you only hear from Sevco fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, gdevoy said: Suppose you had gone out with some girl at school who turned out to be a total basket case and was all over the meeja because of drink and drugs issues. Meanwhile you are now happily married to a stable person with children to think of. The meeja are clearly gaging for you to give your view at length. I think any sensible person would avoid that like the plague in the interests of the wellbeing of their current family and their current relationship. What if the druggie was the love of your life since you were a little boy, you've already left your current partner for her a couple of times and would go back in a heartbeat if she would have you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'm less concerned about the motivational effect on opponents than the disrespect he shows towards fellow pros. This reflects badly on him - which I couldn't care less about - but, by extension, our club. Nobody will convince me that being a player and being a pundit, other than giving the most anodyne views, are compatible. I blame the club for allowing him to do it too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmcc Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 13 hours ago, SlimStripey said: His media work is potentially questionable especially with the clear scope for a conflict of interest between clubs but some of the things people say about him are completely out of order I think. What he’s done for us is a phenomenal achievement. Would anyone complain if we had another 18 year old Boyd coming through just now that would deliver the same over the course of his career? I highly doubt it. I don’t blame him for taking a potshot at some of the support with some of the comments he has to endure. I'm going to get a bit snowflakey here, but what about what we, as Killie fans have to endure as a result of his The Rangers apologist attitude? Our most high profile player spends vastly more time talking about them than he does us. This has a knock on effect to how we are made to feel about him, and by extension our club. Over the years, we're constantly slagged off for being 'mini-huns', and there isn't really an argument against that when you have our, again, most high profile player and sometimes captain choking to defend them at every opportunity. He positions himself with the The Rangers fans all the time, and his comment (I haven't heard it btw) about Dunndee United's decline being linked to them taking a stance on the Rangers is absolutely pathetic and plumbs new depths for him, imo. Let me make another potentially wild assertion (you have to let me, it's the Internet); his attitude permeates through our game, the boyhood hero s**te, the seemingly easy ride that the establishment clubs get from the hierarchy, the avoidance of wider discussion points about our game or other teams in favour on focusing on potentially secondary stories that are OF linked, the kow-towing to 'them' that our clubs' leaders partake in. What do these things result in? Apathy from paying punters. There will have been thousands of Scottish fitba fans over the years that have drifted from the game for exactly the type of attitude that is bedded-in thanks, in part, to what the likes of Boyd and others spew from their various pulpits on TV, radio or the mainstream tabloid press. They Are The People right enough. By comparison, take Scott McDonald for example. He's ex-celtic but he's hardly banging the drum just for them. When I hear Boyd speak about Killie, it seems it's a pain in the arse for him, and it's never really with any great insight or in passionate terms. I can and do forgive him on the park for losing a yard, or carrying a bit of extra weight or missing chances he would've gobbled up in the past. Honestly I can, and thats because of what he's done for us in the past. But, no I can't forgive him for his obvious The Rangers love and support. It's not right when we're direct competitors, and makes me question his professionalism. No amount of goals can buy him the licence to be a cheerleader for a team that we're competing against. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 40 minutes ago, gdevoy said: I have little hope that anyone will understand what I am getting at. . I think you're almost certainly right there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkD1989KTID Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, fmcc said: I'm going to get a bit snowflakey here, but what about what we, as Killie fans have to endure as a result of his The Rangers apologist attitude? Our most high profile player spends vastly more time talking about them than he does us. This has a knock on effect to how we are made to feel about him, and by extension our club. Over the years, we're constantly slagged off for being 'mini-huns', and there isn't really an argument against that when you have our, again, most high profile player and sometimes captain choking to defend them at every opportunity. He positions himself with the The Rangers fans all the time, and his comment (I haven't heard it btw) about Dunndee United's decline being linked to them taking a stance on the Rangers is absolutely pathetic and plumbs new depths for him, imo. Let me make another potentially wild assertion (you have to let me, it's the Internet); his attitude permeates through our game, the boyhood hero s**te, the seemingly easy ride that the establishment clubs get from the hierarchy, the avoidance of wider discussion points about our game or other teams in favour on focusing on potentially secondary stories that are OF linked, the kow-towing to 'them' that our clubs' leaders partake in. What do these things result in? Apathy from paying punters. There will have been thousands of Scottish fitba fans over the years that have drifted from the game for exactly the type of attitude that is bedded-in thanks, in part, to what the likes of Boyd and others spew from their various pulpits on TV, radio or the mainstream tabloid press. They Are The People right enough. By comparison, take Scott McDonald for example. He's ex-celtic but he's hardly banging the drum just for them. When I hear Boyd speak about Killie, it seems it's a pain in the arse for him, and it's never really with any great insight or in passionate terms. I can and do forgive him on the park for losing a yard, or carrying a bit of extra weight or missing chances he would've gobbled up in the past. Honestly I can, and thats because of what he's done for us in the past. But, no I can't forgive him for his obvious The Rangers love and support. It's not right when we're direct competitors, and makes me question his professionalism. No amount of goals can buy him the licence to be a cheerleader for a team that we're competing against. This post is fantastic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 The comment about Dundee Utd being in the Championship due to them voting against the huns is laughable. It's the kind of nonsense you'd read on Follow Follow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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