Ken T Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 This boy has talent, we saw that when he scored against us in 2 separate games a couple of seasons ago and there are some stompers for Oldham on YouTube. But other than a tidy finish v Hamilton we've seen next to nothing. Anyone know what's going on there? At Well he had an experienced striker beside him and if Steve Clarke is going 4-4-2 surely that would work for Erwin - was noticeable how close Jones was to Boyd partic. 1st half on Tuesday and that must be a factor in all those chances we created. Or am I being too old school and 4-4-2 is dead in the water?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_dug Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Games where two teams match up with 4 4 2 are always better to watch, more space in midfield and obvs an extra body up top. The modern way of playing 1 up front is rotten to watch but if a side plays that way and you don't match the 5 in the middle then you struggle to get into the match. Europes big clubs have a lot to answer for. Edited November 3, 2017 by red_dug 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_dug Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Erwin, like Boydy doesn't have the engine to play on his own up front. They need someone like Nathan Tyson doing the leg work and closing down defenders beside them. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJout Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Look a very lazy player to me. A signing I had high hopes for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmonty3 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Been a bit disappointed with Erwin. As Ken says he obviously has ability but he's been very laboured so far. Early days though as Power and O'Donnell have shown. As for 4-4-2 is it worth having a look at Brophy and Erwin together up front? Can't say I've seen much of Brophy but at least a different type of striker to Boyd and Erwin, who are quite similar in style. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 We could play 4-4-2 with Erwin assuming we aren't playing a true 4-4-2 and we're playing Jones or someone like Thomas/Kiltie in the role Jones is currently playing free between the striker and the midfield. We would probably struggle with Boyd/Erwin because neither get involved enough with the ball to fit the type of game we played v Hibs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, MJout said: Look a very lazy player to me. A signing I had high hopes for. I agree. I was probably more pleased about him signing in the summer than any of the others but he has been a big disappointment. The fact that he can't displace Boyd in the team given the style of game we are now playing says a lot about him. Even on Tuesday when he came on with fresh legs he looked slow in his movement and didn't show much desire to close men down. And from an attacking point of view Broadfoot played a super wee reverse ball to him and he was caught dreaming, not showing a striker's instinct at all. There always seemed to be a few questions about his attitude so hopefully Clarke can get the best out of him as he certainly has talent and has shown he can score. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumack Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I thought he didn't look fit at all. For me Boyd looked fitter and hungrier than Erwin all day long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merk Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, stumack said: I thought he didn't look fit at all. For me Boyd looked fitter and hungrier than Erwin all day long. Certainly no questioning Boyd's hunger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumack Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Merk said: Certainly no questioning Boyd's hunger Wondered who would be first to mention his appetite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killieboykfc Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 3 hours ago, red_dug said: Games where two teams match up with 4 4 2 are always better to watch, more space in midfield and obvs an extra body up top. The modern way of playing 1 up front is rotten to watch but if a side plays that way and you don't match the 5 in the middle then you struggle to get into the match. Europes big clubs have a lot to answer for. Not necessarilly. If you use a one up top formation and have players with good ability that are willing to work together behind the striker then it can be great formation. Its particularly good for passing football as the shape of the formation allows for wee triangles to be made between players where they can pass it an then move. Easier said than done, obviously but it's definitely not a rotten formation to use if its done right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmullin88 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Very disappointed in this signing so far, can hope for a change in fortune. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 hours ago, MJout said: Look a very lazy player to me. A signing I had high hopes for. George McLusky looked like a lazy buggar up front but he had a predatory sharpness when an opportunity appeared. Erwin looks lazy with no interest even when chance present itself. disappointment so fat although I'm willing to accept we may be using him the wrong way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bute-killiefan Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 We created a lot of chances this week playing one up top, which is effectively 3 when you include McKenzie and Jones anyway. It'll click for Erwin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJout Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Watched him play for development side 2 weeks ago. Didn't look interested even with new gaffer watching. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 has been little evidence so far of any partnership between our forward players to make us change system to a front 2 permanently-----and in doing so would possibly lead to a more direct way of playing and leave us short in midfield ..and just as Jones is coming into some top form in this "free role" he has been given it would be questionable to move him back out wide only as for Erwin and to a lesser extent Brophy -- both need to improve quality as and when given a chance by Clarke has they have shown little form as yet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Bad attitude him and Thomas both the same. Will see how long they last . Brophy again not good enough for Hamilton . No good enough for us . Samizadeh non starter . Clarke will bring in 2 strikers probably in January on loan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKillie Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Would prefer if he signed new strikers instead of loanees 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumack Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, BlueKillie said: Would prefer if he signed new strikers instead of loanees So would i but have we got the money to pay transfer fees? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bute-killiefan Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Souleycouley93 said: Bad attitude him and Thomas both the same. Will see how long they last . Brophy again not good enough for Hamilton . No good enough for us . Samizadeh non starter . Clarke will bring in 2 strikers probably in January on loan If Erwin and Thomas show bad attitudes when working under arguably the best coach they will ever play under, they won't last long in the game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, Souleycouley93 said: Bad attitude him and Thomas both the same. Will see how long they last . Brophy again not good enough for Hamilton . No good enough for us . Samizadeh non starter . Clarke will bring in 2 strikers probably in January on loan who its player? Chelsea or Arsenal or Man City or Man Utd or Liverpool younger striker player? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz of the 20/20 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 45 minutes ago, Craigieboy said: who its player? Chelsea or Arsenal or Man City or Man Utd or Liverpool younger striker player? No, its Donovan Simmonds 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWWnnnnnn! Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 George McLuskey was 38/39. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I just don't get the thing with Thomas. He started the season on fire, looked like he would be one of our best players. He's since completely disappeared. Not even getting off the bench these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasg Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 35 minutes ago, WWWWnnnnnn! said: George McLuskey was 38/39. Just like boydies short size! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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