Dillinger Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 Usually dread the old firm games but buzzing for this one. If the SC run of form could stretch to victory surrounded by two stands full of mutants, two days before Christmas, I'll be ready to donate to the Clarke statue fund. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 On 15 December 2017 at 8:11 PM, Blackislekillie said: Give them the minimum allocation of tickets. Don't lend your hun pals your ST's. If we can afford SC we can afford to shun the hun pound surely. That's a grea idea. Let's forgoe 200k and starve Steve Clarke of funds Well done you!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelesboots Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 19 hours ago, Souleycouley93 said: Kilmarnock will sell rangers both ends producing 200k before a pie is purchased . Then you have television rights and higher home pay in punters . I am considering attending this game . Even at 26£ as I genuinely feel we could do the bosh . Hopefully a draw at very least . Club is going places cannot wait for Hamilton away . Should be selling our full allocation for that imo . There is no extra money for the game specifically being on TV. I know everyone has a right to do what they want with their time/money however from the above it suggests you are going to Hamilton and only considering going next Saturday? That would mean no money for us but money for Hamilton? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackislekillie Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mclean07 said: That's a grea idea. Let's forgoe 200k and starve Steve Clarke of funds Well done you!! Fair point. Just sticks in my craw the overwhelming sense of entitlement that they and the other mob have. Edited December 17, 2017 by Blackislekillie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) I hate old firm games only because we give them both stands hate being over run at home by those 2 I understand it from a financial point of view but it must stop because more killie fans would come back to those games Edited December 17, 2017 by Neilly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Neilly said: understand it from a financial point of view but it must stop because more killie fans would come back to those games Hasn't the club experimented with giving the OF (Celtic, probably) one stand and it was a big flop? Edited December 17, 2017 by skygod 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Pelesboots said: There is no extra money for the game specifically being on TV. I know everyone has a right to do what they want with their time/money however from the above it suggests you are going to Hamilton and only considering going next Saturday? That would mean no money for us but money for Hamilton? Why is there not money if it’s on tv ? I will probably be at both , but certainly at Hamilton because I enjoy away games more . Our home form has improved and I have attended most home games this season paying in . Only killie would you get someone digging at a fan looking at attending a game he usually wouldn’t have done . Hopefully see you there and Hamilton Edited December 18, 2017 by Souleycouley93 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 TV money for league matches is included in the commercial revenue which is distributed amongst clubs, based on their final league placing. This is why being selected for live coverage in a league match, especially one with a Sunday and/or lunchtime kick-off, is not a Good Thing for the club. Only in the cups are the clubs compensated for individual matches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1el Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Bring on the zombies! 1st time since Kenny that I'll go to this game knowing we will show them no respect and treat it like any other game, they are absolutely for the taking, Ryan Jack who appears to be one of their better players is also suspended 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA9Killie Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Neilly said: I hate old firm games only because we give them both stands hate being over run at home by those 2 I understand it from a financial point of view but it must stop because more killie fans would come back to those games I totally agree with this. Even if they sell out the second stand (which is very rare), it raises barely £100K, minus extra policing and stewarding costs. Of course, even that is a decent amount of money, but 300 or so extra Killie fans buying a season ticket would cover it. Home fans visiting 20 times a season are more important than away fans who visit once or twice: the club has to show that it recognises this. If we got relegated (which is where we were heading a few weeks ago), there wouldn't be any OF games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Superscot Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Dan1el said: Ryan Jack who appears to be one of their better players is also suspended Don't think he is as he was back against St J. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Dan1el said: Bring on the zombies! 1st time since Kenny that I'll go to this game knowing we will show them no respect and treat it like any other game, they are absolutely for the taking, Ryan Jack who appears to be one of their better players is also suspended I'd have liked Jack to be playing for two reasons. 1) he's utterly crap, 2) he's an utter liability, likely to be sent off for the FIFTH time in 19 matches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Jimmy Superscot said: Don't think he is as he was back against St J. He is suspended. It was one of the talking points on radio at weekend how they recalled him for one match before he serves another two game suspension. Something to do with him being over the points total now for all his bookings and sending off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojike and Bod Posted December 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Jack is definitely suspended. Miller also crocked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelesboots Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Souleycouley93 said: Hopefully see you there and Hamilton I'll be at both 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plunkit Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Well here's a turn-up for the books. Some Warriors fans I go to games with now looking at going to RP then driving to Murrayfield after for the 5.15pm ko in the Glasgow v Edinburgh game. SC doing the biz ok ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fankle Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 14 hours ago, Neilly said: I hate old firm games only because we give them both stands hate being over run at home by those 2 I understand it from a financial point of view but it must stop because more killie fans would come back to those games Presumably this has always been the case though. I'd imagine the bulk of the crowd in the days when we got 35,000 against Rangers were not Killie fans... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Superscot Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Bullitt said: He is suspended. It was one of the talking points on radio at weekend how they recalled him for one match before he serves another two game suspension. Something to do with him being over the points total now for all his bookings and sending off. OK, my bad! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldow Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 7 hours ago, KA9Killie said: I totally agree with this. Even if they sell out the second stand (which is very rare), it raises barely £100K, minus extra policing and stewarding costs. Of course, even that is a decent amount of money, but 300 or so extra Killie fans buying a season ticket would cover it. Home fans visiting 20 times a season are more important than away fans who visit once or twice: the club has to show that it recognises this. If we got relegated (which is where we were heading a few weeks ago), there wouldn't be any OF games. Yup. Big picture thinking required here. How many points (=pounds) has giving up our home advantage 4 times a season cost us? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieBus Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 We aren't giving up home advantage. We're not taking advantage of having home advantage. I really don't like the fact that Celtic and Rangers get allocated two stands but it is only Kilmarnock fans that can change this. If we can fill the East and West, then from that point there can be a discussion on whether or not we can at least partly fill a third stand. Until then, it would be madness to turn away entry money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fankle Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 51 minutes ago, Caldow said: Yup. Big picture thinking required here. How many points (=pounds) has giving up our home advantage 4 times a season cost us? Feels like we've been giving up our home advantage 18 times a season recently. We got a point off Rangers a few weeks back when the fans were outnumbered 40 to 1... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldow Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Fankle said: Feels like we've been giving up our home advantage 18 times a season recently. We got a point off Rangers a few weeks back when the fans were outnumbered 40 to 1... Oh well then. Give them 4 stands and we can all watch it on the telly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewWylie Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Sell the c**ts all the tickets they want because let's face it killie fans aren't going to buy them------ even with our decent form now our support on Saturday will be poor---- take the money 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 It's too late to do anything now, we've taken the money already...but we should target one of these home matches in the future though and at least try and fill the three stands with Killie fans. Announce a plan months in advance. Start selling tickets early. Allow all family ST holders in at a heavily discounted price. Go to the press and say we are giving Killie fans the opportunity to reclaim home advantage. Sell the East and West Stands first and leave the Moffat until last. Announce a cut off date at which point if we've not sold enough tickets then the club release them to the opposition (fill the top tier, then the bottom tier). It really is a complete no lose situation for the club...they give our fans what we want and if we don't respond they can still shift the tickets to the great unwashed...and we don't hear anyone ever moaning about it again either way. Our biggest problem is our reluctance to change, but if we don't try something then nothing ever will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 48 minutes ago, baz said: It's too late to do anything now, we've taken the money already...but we should target one of these home matches in the future though and at least try and fill the three stands with Killie fans. Announce a plan months in advance. Start selling tickets early. Allow all family ST holders in at a heavily discounted price. Go to the press and say we are giving Killie fans the opportunity to reclaim home advantage. Sell the East and West Stands first and leave the Moffat until last. Announce a cut off date at which point if we've not sold enough tickets then the club release them to the opposition (fill the top tier, then the bottom tier). It really is a complete no lose situation for the club...they give our fans what we want and if we don't respond they can still shift the tickets to the great unwashed...and we don't hear anyone ever moaning about it again either way. Our biggest problem is our reluctance to change, but if we don't try something then nothing ever will. I can't see us going from having 3-4,000 fans at those games to selling out the East, and Frank Beattie stands. You would be selling tickets on the basis that the away team would only get one stand, then after the people have bought tickets on that basis you could turn round and say actually they will get both stands because you haven't bought enough tickets. This kind of thing is better to organise at the start of the season. Sell family tickets that can include Celtic and Sevco games for a supplement and with the provision that they would be seated in the Moffat for those games. Sell four or five game tickets that can include the above games so walk ups aren't paying £26. Maybe the best option is to do what we did when we had a decent home support and sell them a portion of the East Stand or Frank Beattie as well as the Chadwick, thus confining them to one end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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