Souleycouley93 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 “No concomitant “ -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killie lad Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: What I said was true, of course. 28 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: I deleted my post. I decided it was too petty You know what to do McLean 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieboy Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, PrestersKtid said: Surely a Rangers Statement is imminent To be a Rangers player requires the mentality to cope with the demanding off-pitch environment that goes with being a player for the Rangers. We didnae want him anyway. We arra people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Kris Boyd slammed Rangers over their bid to sign Jordan Jones in the January window. The former Ibrox striker feels Rangers are unsettling players and upsetting clubs with how they are going out about their business. Speaking in today's Record Sport, Boyd said: “It pretty much sums it up as there’s a common theme the whole time. There’s one club unsettling everybody. If they want players then pay the money and come and take them. “There’s no point in dropping phone calls in here saying they want to this or that. If you want something you go and get it. “Jamie Walker was the exact same. There’s a list, we could go on and on. “There’s calls been made and nothing has been backed up to do something about it. Pay the money and take the players if you want them. It’s easy to unsettle players now. “This club is not in a position where it needs to sell and certainly won’t give away one of its assets for next to nothing. “If Rangers want Jordan they’ll need to pay the money." But is Boyd being fair? When you look at the history of transfers, clubs regularly go in with a low-ball offer to test the water. Quite simply, it would be crazy for a club to open negotiations with a huge bid. Transfer negotiations can be complex and teams will often kick out the first, and often second bids. Boyd himself was the subject of a £200k offer from Rangers before he then joined for £500k in January 2006. We've seen the situation with Rangers on other occasions as well. The club made an initial bid of £300k for Lee Wallace before eventually he was bought for around £1m. Steven Naismith was the subject of a £400k offer before Kilmarnock eventually sold him to Rangers for £1.9m. Even last summer, Rangers had two bids rejected for Graham Dorrans before they eventually signed him. Reading this it might be fair to assume Boyd was right about Rangers in making small and ultimately failed opening bids – but they aren't the only club 'short-changing' their rivals. Celtic made an initial bid of £200k for Hearts star Paul Hartley before eventually giving the Tynecastle club £1.1m for the midfielder. It was the same with initial bids for Nadir Ciftci (£900k) and Stuart Armstrong (£1.5m) before both joined Celtic for £1.5m and £2m respectively. Aberdeen had an initial bid rejected for Stevie May from Preston before eventually paying £300k for him. Boyd was also critical of Rangers' chase of Jamie Walker last summer. The Ibrox club had numerous bids rejected for Walker as Hearts held out for £1m. Eventually, the winger was sold to Wigan for just £300k, although the fee is related to the fact his contract was up in the summer. But low-balling opening bids aren’t just witnessed in Scotland. As recently as Monday, West Brom had a £12m move for Scotland midfielder Tom Cairney rejected despite Newcastle having a £20m attempt knocked back last summer by Fulham. The Baggies are expected to go back in with a bid of £15m which could be accepted by Fulham. Back in the summer, Aberdeen had a £350k and then £400k bids for Louis Moult rejected and didn't go back in for him. While Rangers’ offer for Walker had an adverse effect on his form, the opposite was true of former Aberdeen target Moult. After the two failed bids, the Motherwell striker scored 13 goals in the first half of the season and earned him a £450k move to Preston this month. Not paying what Motherwell wanted eventually backfired on Aberdeen as they were then priced out of a move after the summer window with Preston able to offer much higher wages. Going in low can unsettle players and force a transfer but it's just one of the tricks of the trade. Rangers’ recent bids for Jones and Greg Docherty don't reflect the players’ values but they do show a starting point for negotiations. Similar has been witnessed for Rangers in this window as well. Preston, Sheffield United and Wigan have all had bids rejected for Josh Windass. They're believed to be in the region of £250k-£500k while Rangers want £2million for the English forward. The clubs then invariably meet somewhere in the middle. That's just how football works. (Record) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 42 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: They already are. No chance of that working, how would all the Ayrshire Huns get their yearly day out actually watching the pricks in the flesh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, skygod said: Similar has been witnessed for Rangers in this window as well. Preston, Sheffield United and Wigan have all had bids rejected for Josh Windass. They're believed to be in the region of £250k-£500k while Rangers want £2million for the English forward. The clubs then invariably meet somewhere in the middle. That's just how football works. (Record) If Windass is worth 2M then JJ's value has just gone up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Most of the facts in the article from the Daily Ranger are true apart from the nonsense about Windass. That's just been put in there to appease the bears, let them think they have a player that other clubs want and let them think they are in a position to turn down hard cash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee_Eck1979 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 The difference is everyone knows they are skint. When a buying clubs makes an opening offer they will take the selling clubs position into regards and tailor the bid to reflect this. We have been on the other end of this in recent years and it’s refreshing to see the club be able to reject low ball offers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, historyman said: Most of the facts in the article from the Daily Ranger are true apart from the nonsense about Windass. That's just been put in there to appease the bears, let them think they have a player that other clubs want and let them think they are in a position to turn down hard cash. A lot of the examples are made about the old Rangers who were in a different financial situation entirely. Negotiating over the Naismith deal we knew he was worth the £2M and we knew they had it to pay. Currently they don't have a penny and they're basically attempting a shakedown to see what they can get for as little as possible. It's an obvious but not very good comparison from the Record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, Fletch said: A lot of the examples are made about the old Rangers who were in a different financial situation entirely. Negotiating over the Naismith deal we knew he was worth the £2M and we knew they had it to pay. Currently they don't have a penny and they're basically attempting a shakedown to see what they can get for as little as possible. It's an obvious but not very good comparison from the Record. To be honest their financial situation is much the same now as it was when they bought Naismith - they are living beyond their means and have been since the 1990s. The big difference now is that their financial position is common knowledge and isn't being hidden by illegal tax schemes, way too friendly bankers and overly compliant auditors. I don't actually have a problem with them putting in a low bid for JJ (apart from the fact they don't have the funds to back it up). It's all part of the usual negotiating process and clubs are entitled to do that - just as Sir Steve is entitled to tell them that they are having a laugh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon19 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Anyway, looks like this could get even better. [URL="https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/jordan-jones.16094/page-11#post-749806"]Jordan Jones[/URL] Please, please boycott us you cvnts! That is a glorious read i especially enjoyed the “ this thread has a reek of Rome about it “ There paranoia is something to behold 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumack Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 its hilarious, they have this massive hard on for the idea that if we value him at more than what they've bid then they hope we pay him the wages that a transfer fee like that would command? they've all gone insane. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboy Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 How funny will it be if Naismith comes back to Killie now? Spontaneous combustion will be rife round Govan! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpetree Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, stumack said: its hilarious, they have this massive hard on for the idea that if we value him at more than what they've bid then they hope we pay him the wages that a transfer fee like that would command? they've all gone insane. So they want the salary to be concomitant? We can always say it's not, but the under the table payments bring it back to where it should be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR1869 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Talking about boycotts because they can't get the players they want just shows the level these dumplings are at. "Rangers need to start getting tougher with the diddy teams..." can't be that much of a diddy team when we take four points from six off you... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 They are seething . Sitting in their big steamrollers and they have lost their keys . Get it up you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwai Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Jeezo, what a bunch of delusional weans they are on that forum. You could almost feel sorry for the odd sensible poster on there who is conspicuous in swimming against a tsunami of bile and broken dreams. A spewnami, if you will. I feel like I need a shower after reading that. But it IS funny, and their tears are refreshingly delicious. Nom, nom, nom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewWylie Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 18 hours ago, BigD'sGingerLorry said: Front and back page, it seems. Cant wait to read it and see the reaction of the Ipox faithful. He's ripping into the bastards ffs give the guy a break ---- some folk on here eh -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy_boy Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Woooooossssssssh! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy2012 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Jakey scum manager McColl saying he wouldnt pay 150k for Jones on Sportsound. Tosser. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, cammy2012 said: Jakey scum manager McColl saying he wouldnt pay 150k for Jones on Sportsound. Tosser. He hasn’t got £150 never mind anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Lay aff the gear Ian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killielad Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 A lot of the Rangers fans have the opinion of: If Jones is valued as a £1M player, then why are Killie paying him £2K a week. Yep - ‘cause that’s how it works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Signed Joey Barton for free give him 25,000£ a week . Shouldn’t they have been paying him 2k a week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojike and Bod Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 53 minutes ago, cammy2012 said: Jakey scum manager McColl saying he wouldnt pay 150k for Jones on Sportsound. Tosser. Ian McCall is a complete Cnut of a man. A complete jakey tramp. One of the most despicable men in Scottish football. We owe him one big time. Hope we draw his nothing Club in the cup and pay him back royally the prick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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