MrTumnus Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Thought the ref was very poor but the highlights show he got the two Dicker decisions spot on. He used an arm, penalty, and the ball hit the Dundee guy on the shoulder, play on before getting wiped out. -20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFC Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Disagree. The rules state that the shoulder is not a penalty. How the referee can give that as a penalty especially when Dicker has his back to him is a mystery. Does he have X-ray vision? Very very poor decision. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 The ball clearly hits Dicker on the shoulder. Never a penalty imo -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boabkfc19 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Never a pen. Refs a cock -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy_boy Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Clearly his shoulder. WRONG! He deliberatly shoulders it out for a corner. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSpin Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Got to disagree, watched the highlights this morning and his arm moves toward the ball, looks like it hits his arm further down than the shoulder. However, the corner that led to the penalty should never have been given, the Dundee player went right through the back of Boyd and it should clearly have been a foul. Certainly one of the worst refereeing performances I have seen and that is saying something 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, CardinalSpin said: Got to disagree, watched the highlights this morning and his arm moves toward the ball, looks like it hits his arm further down than the shoulder. However, the corner that led to the penalty should never have been given, the Dundee player went right through the back of Boyd and it should clearly have been a foul. Certainly one of the worst refereeing performances I have seen and that is saying something I thought it was Findlay that got wiped out for the corner? Was a free kick to us all day long! Having said that, the events that conspired afterwards made every wrong decision sweeter at full time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Aye it was Findlay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calummoore86 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 He clearly plays the ball with his upper arm. Pictures dont lie. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncD Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Has he ever had a good game reffing us? seem to recall even the papers commenting on his decisions last year. He’s young so SFA will see him as the messiah of reffing I’m sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonnieKTID Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Have the rules changed? Do players who receive medical treatment on the park no longer have to leave the park and be signalled to from the ref to come back on. Clearly didn't happen at one point last night 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calummoore86 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 if you are going to shoulder a ball there's no need to lift your arm into a "teapot" position. While it may not be intentional, by definition its a hand ball. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 The ref was abysmal throughout the game. Both of their goals came from corners that should have been fouls to Kilmarnock. After watching the penalty decision back it wasn't a penalty for me. He's used his shoulder (with a contorted arm albeit) and he's had no time to react. If a ball skelps you in the arm it's not a handball, I felt the same rule should apply for Dicker here. Then you look at the consistency issue, if you give one hand ball like that then you need to give the rest. He let them away with 3 similar throughout the game as far as I could see. A shambolic performance from a terrible referee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, VonnieKTID said: Have the rules changed? Do players who receive medical treatment on the park no longer have to leave the park and be signalled to from the ref to come back on. Clearly didn't happen at one point last night Yes, last year or year before if fouling player is carded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 They should just do away with the rule and let physios on the pitch during the game. You'd see much less rolling about on the floor, and none of this pantomime for kicking the ball out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fankle Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 I'll need to watch it again in more detail but it looked incredibly harsh to call that deliberate handball given the time Dicker had to react. The 2nd booking could have been a straight red in some refs' eyes. Crazy challenge to make while on a yellow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinger Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 I was very critical last night about Walsh's handling of the game and remain so this morning but I won't argue about the penalty or the sending off. I will however maintain my view that he is the poorest referee seen at Rugby Park for years if that is his normal standard in handling the overall game incidents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19snickers88 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Second one for me was a terrible challenge to make, he was clearly frustrated but could have easily been a straight red for that. He is experienced enough to know to be careful especially when already on a yellow. That being said penalty or not and bad challenge or not, we still won and showed great character to come back from 2-1 down with 10 men. Great result. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Not sure their is much difference between the penalty and the touch the Dundee boy took before Dicker got sent off both were soft IMO. Sending off you can’t argue with the second yellow. Felt they got off with Murder. Did McGowan swing an elbow at McKenzie early on? As above a defender getting wiped out by Moussa in the lead up to that corner. The defender already on a booking tripping Brophy just before the break and not even a foul when it looked obvious it should have been a second yellow. Probably the worst was the late tackle on Taylor. The balls gone into the box and I think it was Deacon clattered Taylor very late. No foul. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggy Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Dickers 2nd yellow is as blatant a foul as you'll see. The penalty clearly hit him on the shoulder. Multiple baffling decisions from the ref last night, hope we don't see him for a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan56 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 43 minutes ago, Calummoore86 said: He clearly plays the ball with his upper arm. Pictures dont lie. That not the ref view. He can’t make a call if he can’t see it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ycfc1922 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Alan56 said: That not the ref view. He can’t make a call if he can’t see it. If he can’t see it he shouldn’t give it. Anyway, moot point. Ref was pish. We won. Yippee Edited February 14, 2018 by Ycfc1922 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelesboots Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alan56 said: That not the ref view. He can’t make a call if he can’t see it. You have to be 100% certain there is a clear deliberate handball to give a penalty, and there was no way he could been 100% certain, so it should never have been given. That was the worst refereeing performance I have seen in years - makes it even better we won despite him. I think he also got Dicker's 2nd yellow wrong IMO - that was a red card all day long and had it been the other way round I would have expected the opposition player to be sent off. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 24 minutes ago, zinger said: I was very critical last night about Walsh's handling of the game and remain so this morning but I won't argue about the penalty or the sending off. I will however maintain my view that he is the poorest referee seen at Rugby Park for years if that is his normal standard in handling the overall game incidents. Poorest since ICT 2016? Guess who reffed that one...(incidentally, Iain Wilson did well in that game too) http://www.killiefc.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1788-killie-1-nick-walsh-1-171216/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calummoore86 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, CB said: Poorest since ICT 2016? Guess who reffed that one...(incidentally, Iain Wilson did well in that game too) http://www.killiefc.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1788-killie-1-nick-walsh-1-171216/ @mathematics hating on Dicker as per. At least you're consistent mate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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