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  1. Since Friday night I have seen the worst outpouring of bile, vitriol and abuse on this site that I have ever seen. We lost to Ayr United in a League Cup game, it has happened before and will probably happen again. I have supported Killie since the early sixties and am happy to say that I was there for "The Treble", great days but I have also seen games mush worse than Friday night's. Many more! This was the first competitive game of the season,under a new manager trying to build a new team. To slaughter the manager and the team is nonsensical, and yes I know it was Ayr. The abuse two young players, Wilson and Frizell, has received is beyond belief. Apparently these two players who received massive praise for their performances in the Toulon tournament are totally useless! Really!! The world's press must be wrong. Imagine you were 18, back on a high from playing for your country, beating Brazil, and then reading the abuse on this site. I am sure that would really motivate you to perform for Kilmarnock. On another point, the abuse aimed at Kris Boyd is disgusting. I agree that he is finished as a player but is it really necessary for all the bile. He has been a great player for Killie who almost single handed saved us from relagation and therefore administration. Not only has he been a great player but also a great ambassador. Please spare me the Sun column comments, he is trying to make money as we all do. If it was not for the financial generosity of Boyd and Naismith it is probable that our club would no longer exist. Yet these two "saviours" are continually referred to as "Huns". Yes, they both admit to supporting Rangers but obviously have huge love for Killie. Everyone should be allowed to support their chosen team. How would we feel if we continually received abuse for supporting Killie, yes I know we do! i am still optimistic that the coming season will be successful and that Lee McCulloch will prove to be an excellent manager. No doubt in true Killie style it will be a roller-coaster but please enjoy the highs and don't over- react to the lows. You support Kilmarnock, not Barcelona, Man Utd, etc. We will have more bad days than good but believe me after 50 years supporting Killie it is still worth it. Enjoy the ride.
    17 points
  2. Laudable sentiments by the OP and it's his right to have that perspective. I too have been following Killie since the 1960s but I have a different 'perspective', not that longevity of supporting the club gives anyone a superior claim over the truth. Friday night WAS as bad as it gets for both purely football and related reasons. First the sense of disappointment felt by all of us is utterly legitimate. The 'narrative' accepted by most, including me, is that manager having overcome his reticence at taking the job, adopted an approach at variance with the Lee Clark 'tombola' method of recruitment and team selection. No longer would we subject to huge numbers of dodgy random signings. Instead we would benefit from some hardened pros on longer term contracts who would provide steel, guile and experience for the younger boys. The other signings were promising. Combine those expectations with the post MJ feel good factor and hopes were higher than they have been for many a pre-season. After about twenty minutes played perhaps less the shuddering reality hit that actually we could be worse this year. Top 6 a pipe dream, the fight for the coveted 11th spot the harsh reality stretching out before us. Here was an opportunity to make a break with the last few ghastly years. We blew it. Think what a win and a good win would have done. It was have changed the psychology going into the season. Those holding back from buying seasons may have committed themselves again. There were many faces at the railway end who've not been to games in recent times. They were there to be convinced. I really don't know if the manager underestimated A** or whether he really understood the seriousness with which we Killie fans take the derby. You absolutely knew TB did and so did Kenny Shiels. I think BW did but was hopeless against them. I am not convinced 'Jig' (let's stop calling him this as it smacks of over familiar hunnery) did. I sure hope he does now. It's really not good enough to say an individual error cost us. We were outhought, outfought, outmanoeuvred and overrun. None of those 'new players early in the season excuses' wash because they apply equally to the opposition. Our 'tactics' were hopelessly inadequate. Plan a - long ball to KB pick up scraps or plan b - get the ball to JJ. Pass and move - none of that. I think the OP is underestimating the potential damage inflicted and what the game revealed about the managers approach. I really hope this is a one off and he can turn it round. He is now shaping his team with a number of his players. We'll see. Also because this is a debate conducted in good spirit I hope, it needs to be said that the OP underestimates the hurt of the defeat in that fixture. Losing to them after we won the league still rankles cos it always gets mentioned. The cup defeats post 1997 were shockers. They linger in the psyche. I do agree that abuse directed at Wilson and Frizzell is mental btw. Comments directed at certain others are not so unfounded though.
    14 points
  3. Thats me ready for Tuesday night.
    6 points
  4. I have a tattoo on my willie that spells K O C K, but when I wear my wee badge I get excited and it spells Kilmarnock
    5 points
  5. IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ Fans are reminded that wearing of the pin badge in bed is neither necessary nor recommended. As you were.
    5 points
  6. Pish! As is customary on these holier than thou threads, I declare that yes, I too have supported Killie through thick and thin. If we had played any other team on Friday nite then you might have a point... if we had got beat by any other team then most of the criticism would not be here, cos we're Killie and we're used to getting pumped by wee'er teams in the cups. But this was Ehrr and defeat is not an option. Over 3000 of us travelled to The Piggery with a new hope for a new era, We have a new manager and new players and were confident 11 of them could turn up with us and do the biz. No matter that it was 'just' a League Cup group game, what better way to start than with a win against our oldest and closest rivals? As you weren't even there Ian, I wonder if you could feel the optimism all the way over the 1400 miles of airwaves in sunny Spain? Everyone had smiles on their coupons and springs in their steps, the colours were on display and the singing was loud and proud. Well that is until 10-15 minutes into the game, it was very clear the players hadn't turned up with the same conviction as the fans. You could feel the optimism start to drain away as it dawned this was going to be a slog... eh? ...against a shower of s**te two divisions below who had just been relegated? No way! Not again! Well the worst fear came to pass and the disappointment hung heavy in the air as we watched the manky mob celebrate opposite. In that moment when the final whistle blew, I think if the fans could have got into the dressing room, the players would have been ripped new arse holes, so they should think themselves lucky that the abuse is confined to here. Perhaps 50 years of hurt has made you immune but some of us still feel it when THEY put one over us! But never mind, back to reality... a win against Clyde and everything will be right with the world, that's just how it has always been. Anyway, enough of all this... a one, two, three, "Oh this year i'm off to Sunny Spain Y Viva Espana, I'm taking the Costa Brava 'plane Y Viva Espana...."
    5 points
  7. A traitor casual scumbag. Everyone knows there's only one type of person more dangerous than someone who doesn't wear a killie scarf complete with wee badges to a game - a person who wears another teams scarf complete with their wee badges to a killie game.
    4 points
  8. You seriously believe that the first game of the League Cup qualifying section will be the most important game of the season? Enjoy the rest of the school holidays.
    4 points
  9. Watched talbot game today. Innes cameron is nowhere near the first team. The talbot defenders had him in their pockets all game. Will graham came off injured as well.
    3 points
  10. Think @Graeme S needs a wee badge for the most brain cells destroyed in a thread. Absolute nonsense of the highest order. His arguement is in the same bracket as "ur no a real scotsman if u dont wear a kilt". What drivel.
    3 points
  11. Our bus goes to away games every week and i dont think any if us wear any colours. Theres people on it that haven't missed game in years including friendlies and would put most people to shame by going above and beyond to help killie by selling lotto tickets etc, so to class them as strange or words to that affect is a load of nonsense.
    3 points
  12. It's not weird to wear colours to a football match. It's not weird not to wear colours. It's kind of weird that anyone would think that either of these statements is untrue.
    3 points
  13. Aye very good man. I'm a 43 year old who takes my disabled dad and my wee boy to the football, and I happen to wear no colours, not even one of your wee badges. But you know best it seems. I can only presume you'll wake up in the morning and meekly delete your posts.
    3 points
  14. I like going to watch my team. I wear what I want. I don't wear colours or even a wee badge. Why do you need me to wear a wee badge? Why is it weird that I don't? Why do you need me to display my allegiance on my sleeve to you? I find your needs frankly weird.
    3 points
  15. I used to love the guy but turning up to be a part of the first team squad in the shape that he's in shows a complete lack of respect for the club, his manager, his team mates and every single one of us as fans. Get him a personal trainer for a month. Make him do the extra work with him before and after training and make it clear he has that month to save his career. If he doesn't do it. Send him to the under twenties and let him rot. We deserve better.
    3 points
  16. The "over Reaction" is 100% deserved. And the criticism of the "youngsters" who were abysmal last night was deserved also. They aren't kids, they are young adults. I'm more than certain every person on this forum has had some sort of criticism at their work place. Their job is to perform, and they didn't. To use the u21 tournament as an example of them performing well is ridiculous. Comparing a tournament full of kids and over rated talent to a derby game against a just relegated ayr side is stupidity. We are far too nice, in fact the whole footballing world has become far too nice. The original poster is just using his "nice" opinion for point scoring. The team should be getting ridiculed for last night until they start performing.
    3 points
  17. Last nights performance was an absolute embarrassment to everyone one us. We lost what was to most of us the most important game of the season. Most of our players old,new,experienced & inexperienced looked like they couldn't give a monkeys. Our manager made a good job of looking inept & out of his depth against a team 2 divisions below! Our captain & most experienced player looks like he can't be bothered to even do the basic things that a well payed professional athlete would do without thinking such as eat & train properly but is perfectly happy to take the fans hard earned cash while sticking two fingers up at them. I'm not surprised in the least at some of the abuse thrown about here the past 24 hours,id be more surprised if it hadn't materialised after what we all had to watch last night.
    3 points
  18. Frizzel is probably the most technically gifted footballer we have whilst Greg Kiltie is injured but never seems to get played where he is best suited to which would be as a number 10. He's 2 footed with an eye for a pass & has a goal in him. Yeah he's not gonna win many headers or tackles but if we were playing him in the correct areas with the ball on the deck he wouldn't really need to. Started last night wide while Rory was the central one which I thot was an odd decision by the manager.
    3 points
  19. Great post. He's only 18 for goodness sake - some people need to remember that. Young players are inconsistent, sometimes you'll expect him to have a really positive game but doesn't, other times you'll not give him a moment's thought when you set eyes on the teamsheet but turns out to be the best player on the park. When you're 18, what usually matters is the potential of the player and not his current ability - again some seem to forget this. You'll see glimpses but obviously not the finished article, that to me sums up Wilson atm. So let's be positive. From what I've seen when he's performed well, he's composed, focused and isn't a bad passer. He also shows a bit of fight in the midfield tussles. I think he'll come good.
    2 points
  20. Haha, I actually have a Killie beach towel (Because you're not a Killie fan otherwise) Unfurled it on my lounger first day in Malaga last week, turned out the guy on the one next to me was a Falkirk fan, and was raging
    2 points
  21. My 61 year old dad rarely if ever wears colours. I better warn him some tampon on these forums have called him a weirdo.
    2 points
  22. Doesn't everyone get dressed the night before a game. Your not real fans
    2 points
  23. Drove into the wee village next to where we are staying and saw this post. got to say it made me consider my own comments along the way. For me that's what the forum is all about. I have said before it's opinions and sharing them sometimes you stand firm and other times you reconsider your previously strong stance on subjects. I have been very critical of Boyd for example and nipped heads with it. After reading this I think the majority of the frustration comes from knowing all the things Boyd has done while a Killie player, the goals he scored, the danger he posed in every game and how we could boast about having one of the best strikers Scotland has ever produced at our club. As he hasn't been that player since he's came back from that lot that have played a big part in the player he was to the player he is now. I need to remeber that and also as @Bullittpointed out yesterday it was very recent he suffered a family tragedy that the majority of us would struggle to handle as well as the big man did. At the time I was happy to tell everyone who would listen just how amazing his conduct was during that period and the maturity that was on display from Boydie. Fast forward to now and I am a one man moan machine about his column which maybe I lost sight of what was really bothering me. I know Boydie is unlikely to be a 20 goal a season player these days but that shouldn't mean he should be hung drawn and quartered. I am happy to admit I am your classic fickle football fan and at times my opinion can change quickly, get caught up in the mob mentality. However reading a refreshing post like this sometimes gives you the splash of clarity you need. And like I said that's what is great about the forum. Before you post you are convinced what you are saying is spot on, and sometimes that never changes but sometimes you are made to reconsider your opinion. Before Fridays game I was very excited at the forthcoming season and I'll be sticking with that outlook. I beleieve still that we have the makings of a very good manager, that doesn't mean he won't get things wrong, that doesn't mean we can expect every player to shine in every game and like the OP said we are Killie and it's a rollercoaster which is one of the narcissistic joys in supporting Ayrshires finest. it must be hellish being a Septic fan knowing the season is in all likelihood tied up before a ball is kicked. i agree the attack of the younger players needs to be reigned in, we are lucky to have players of this quality coming through our youth system and their inclusion in the national set up is testament to that. Lets take Friday nights result (as painful as it is) and put it to bed. Id rather be looking forward to another season in the top league in Scottish football than one in the 3rd tier supporting a team with no history. Onwards and upwards and well done to the OP wise words spoken which is needed on here at times and I include myself in that
    2 points
  24. 2 points
  25. What an odd little thread this is.
    2 points
  26. If I read this right I totally agree that this is a forum, you give your opinion good or bad but we all know you do it because you care and no matter what you state/say we all still support the team 100% but still have our own opinion. Last night was brutal, embarrassing (I work in Ayr!) and not good enough but I will still be back for more punishment on Tuesday! YNTTK
    2 points
  27. I agree that some of the reaction has been over the top - just as it is when we win. That's the nature of being a supporter, especially of a club that doesn't win trophies or games regularly. However, the performance last night was extremely poor in a game that was important to the fans as it was a local derby. It could also have been important to the club in terms of bringing back lapsed and disgruntled ex-supporters. I would rather that fans vent their frustration on here than at the players. Finally, even someone such as yourself who is defending Boyd admits that he is finished as a player. Many others ha e come to the same conclusion. Therefore, why was leading the line last night in a role he wasn't even that comfortable in 10 years ago and the only alternative we have is an 18 year old who was playing with Chorley last year? Those are the type of things that make supporters concerned about the season ahead.
    2 points
  28. I think we need to be careful with young Iain,he didn't have his best game last night but at 18 he's a very decent prospect & in his short time in the 1st team he's already come in for quite a bit of unwarranted criticism from the stands for his style of play. He by all accounts had a very good showing in the Toulon tournament at the summer with Scotland & has represented his county at a few age groups already so is obviously well rated by our international set up. There's unlikely to be an 18 year old who's played more 1st team football at SPL level at the moment,we should be supporting him & showing the likes of Innes Cameron & Will Graham that we'll have patience with them or they're gonna be apprehensive about playing in the 1st team before they even get there.
    2 points
  29. I hope it's not the same as last season as it was a big disappointment
    1 point
  30. You can come back out now Graeme...I know you're peeking...all is forgiven...I'm even wearing my Killie socks.
    1 point
  31. It's worse when you think most of Coulibaly's goals were something out of nothing. They were great efforts but a lot of them involved trying your luck from somewhere the keeper would perhaps not expect. That's a big percentage of our goals that weren't exactly created by good teamwork
    1 point
  32. I think there are reasonable points being offered from different points of view here and that effectively is what gives us perspective. After so much effort going into the last few months trying to build a solid base from which to turn this lumbering giant of a club around I think that most of us felt really badly let down on Friday night and subsequently anger was borne out of frustration. I think if I'd been round in that enclosure next to the dugout I might have said a lot of stuff that I'd have regretted later, such is football and the emotions it elicits. It was a dreadful result and the worst start to the season we could hope for, self inflicted by all accounts which makes it feel even worse, but its not something we can't come back from and we have to keep backing the team until it comes good...if it doesn't then we worry about it again, that's just football as well, there are no guarantees of success. We did our bit, the team failed to do theirs, we can't allow that to stop us in our tracks, we go on and we demand better (which we can do without giving our own abuse during matches). I have no bones to pick with anyone who feels they want to have a go on the forums or social media after the game, that will have no bearing on results, and its better to get your frustrations aired prior to the next game, but we have to remember that we win as a team and we lose as a team and that failure in this case was an amalgamation of many factors and singling certain folk out for abuse is probably not fair. Take it on the chin and move on, its difficult but its not like we've not had to do it before. BTW its a myth that Boyd put cash into youth development to help the club out when he left. The money that changed hands was to make the deal happen and smooth his way to join them up the road. The youth development nonsense was just something that was banded about at the time to try and sanitise the deal and make it look better to annoyed Killie fans. We did get more money, but it wasn't a donation or a gift or anything other than part of the payment. The exact same was the case with Naismith, the only difference there was that months prior to his deal going through he deliberately signed a new contract so that the club would receive a fair price for him.
    1 point
  33. I will be there on Tuesday as will all the other usual faces but the result & the nature of the performance on Friday may mean that some others who could have been enticed back on a more regular basis won't be. As has been said by others, Friday was a great opportunity to give a real boost to the off the park revival and we blew it. If had played really well, been unlucky and gave the fans something to get excited about then it would have been a different story but we deserved to lose - and this was to a team that I don't remember having a serious attempt on goal in our last two games against them.
    1 point
  34. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHoK690ikOU
    1 point
  35. What about killie sweatbands as a compromise?
    1 point
  36. You turn well weird when you're steaming. Go to bed man.
    1 point
  37. Alot of fans go to pubs before and after the games and mibby even continue out clubbing and so on. Not really possible with colours, scarf, badge ect..
    1 point
  38. its Mayday flares we might be needing if last night is anything to go by
    1 point
  39. Boyd is past and honestly can see how people can think other wise. The amount of crosses that got into the front post area that Adams for then easily cleared, a younger boyd would get across the front post aera(or a decent striker would), to say he never had service i don't buy into that, couldny get the f**king news paper under his feet when he jumps for header. He must be so easy to mark for defenders. Thanks for all the good times Boydie always will be a legend but seriously quit whilst you still have a good reputation, Lee grow a set of balls and get him out the side, sign another competent striker, or we are doomed
    1 point
  40. Poor colin nish still getting it after all these years, and i always felt quite strongly this was unfounded. the same player that is the tenth highest scoring player in the history of the SPL and got a fair share of assists as well if my memory serves me well. as said above, he'd walk into the team today, and personally i'd love to see a striker of his standard come in the door. back to topic, i'd reserve judgement on Power for now. He didnt look too sharp but he wouldnt be the first player to get a bit shell shocked at the pace of his first game in scotland, and a derby against Ayr United is a bit of a baptism of fire in terms of that even if the skill levels arent anything special. He looked to have some fight in him, did a few simple things, snapped into some tackles, and was undoubtedly more effective than most of his midfield colleagues. Time will tell if he can make the grade.
    1 point
  41. I doubt Power has ever had as short a preseason as he has had this year. I think he'll come good. Boyd is finished, but I'm not going to criticise him for still being the best striking option we have or for the fact his teammates gave him zero support or service. McKenzie is being played out of position, pure and simple. It's like Mark O'Hara all over again. Just because a young player can cover a number of positions, doesn't mean you need to play him in them all. One defeaft and the knicker wetters are out in force wanting to throw out the baby with the bath water. 24 years since we've won at Somerset. If my maths is right that includes two squads who were good enough to win cups, finish in the top half of the league and play in Europe. If Mixu had been faced with this cup format you'd have had him sacked before he'd had a chance to turn things round. Our problems stem from the constant chopping and changing. Squads thrown together at the last minute, not enough game time together, etc, etc. Let's wait till the end of September to see how we're doing.
    1 point
  42. Going by that s**te tonight, big Andy Leishman (Talbots goalie) better bring his deckchair and a book with him.
    1 point
  43. Played far better than Wilson and Frizzell in midfield tonight imo. Think he was one player who actually attempted to put foot on ball and spray it. Yeah he's not match fit but nobody is yet due to having played one friendly and one closed door bounce game. Didnt see any other players putting a foot in and making strong challenges whilst the a*r midfield made mckenzie, friz and Wilson look extremely timid. He appears to me as the type that wins the ball and instantly requires creative players around them to create chances as that's not his best skill.
    1 point
  44. Scottish football is a tough enough gig at the best of times for provincial clubs, but to learn that a behemoth like The Rangers still required to cheat to ensure their dominance continued, thus denying other teams those faint hopes and dreams (Leicster have since shown that hopes and dreams can come true) is wholly criminal. At the very base level you hope that it's eleven against eleven and your team overcome the gulf in class that the skewed finances of our set-up permitted to just once in a while achieve a win to upset the odds. This was denied us and every other club in Scotland. David Murray stated on oath the, now shown to be wrongful, use of EBT's allowed them to attract players to the club that they otherwise would not be able to afford. To do so they broke SFA rules by issuing side letters to falsify the financial arrangements that they were operating under. The goals scored, the saves made, the manager's decisions which affected the results of each and every one of the matches in which the EBT recipients participated in erodes the principles of sport. Why should we just suck this up? Why should we be concerned about the embarrassment? Why should the SFA or SPFL Blazers not endure the flak? We've had matches overturned because an administrative error has found one player was ineligible - Rangers had a (insert f word here) whole team of them. It's a disgrace. Much as we laugh at our County Cousins, they were embarrassed in that final - gubbed, Kanchelskis standing on the ball taking the pee - imagine that was us. How crap would we feel? Strip them of every Title, Cup, point, goal - I still wouldn't accept that that was enough because they still swagger around without an ounce of remorse. (Insert c word here)!!!
    1 point
  45. 2016/17 Final standings after game 43. Position changes from last season in parentheses. 1. Gary Dicker - 46 points (+10) 2. Jordan Jones - 45 points (New Entry) 3. Greg Taylor - 29 points (+19) 4. *Souleymane Coulibaly - 23 points (New Entry) 5. Rory McKenzie - 22 points (+2) =6. Jamie MacDonald, Kris Boyd - 18 points (MacDonald - 5, Boyd +3) 8. *Freddie Woodman - 14 points (New Entry) =9. Kristoffer Ajer, Adam Frizzell - 12 points (Ajer New Entry, Frizzell +4) =11. Iain Wilson, Greg Kiltie - 7 points (Wilson New Entry, Kiltie -9) 13. Scott Boyd - 6 points (New Entry) =14 Martin Smith, *Will Boyle, Luke Hendrie - 5 points (All New Entries) 17 *Jonny Burn - 4 points (New Entry) =18. Josh Magennis*, Miles Addison, Nathan Tyson, *Flo Bojaj, Conor Sammon, William Graham - 2 points (Magennis -15, Addison -2, Tyson, Bojaj, Graham New, Sammon Re-entry) =24 *George Green & Dean Hawkshaw, Josh Webb, Sean Longstaff - 1 point (All New Entries) *no longer with club Gary Dicker is your Killiefc.com in association with Brownings the Bakers Player of the season. Biggest riser was Greg Taylor, up a mahoosive 19 places. Biggest faller was Josh Magennis, down 15 places. 17 new entries 1 re-entry No non movers. Killiefc.com would like to thank everyone for their votes this season. Let's do it again next season. We'll see you in July for the league cup group stage
    1 point
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