Loudoun Killie Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: We’ve got another smart ass here who wants links and dossiers every time someone makes a general point and thinks he has a superior intellect. Doesn’t he know this is @Zorro’s job? Exactly...... -8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) More of our support comes from out with Killie than the town itself. Think the last poll on here had the support being about 40% from the town. Edited July 6, 2020 by Squirrelhumper 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lroy Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: More of our support comes from out with Killie than the town itself. Think the last poll on here had the support being about 40% from the town. I did a "census" in 2016 and these were the results. On 11/23/2016 at 8:34 PM, Lroy said: #1 - LOCATION OF KILLIE FANS IN THE UK NOW KA is not included. Brightness of red colouring drops proportionally to population. The PA postcode makes it look like we have a big fanbase in the islands. Click below to show full data table. Reveal hidden contents KA 108 G 28 PA 11 EH 9 AB 5 FK 3 ML 3 NE 3 DD 2 DG 2 IV 2 KY 2 LS 2 B 1 BA 1 CA 1 LA 1 PH 1 PO 1 TN 1 TS 1 TW 1 WA 1 Grand Total 201 * Not all totals will be the same because people can't fill in forms properly. Some also move abroad. On 11/23/2016 at 8:53 PM, Lroy said: #2 - LOCATION OF WHERE KILLIE FANS GREW UP Centered around KA postcode therefore not all data shown. Click below to show full data table. Reveal hidden contents KA1 46 KA3 35 KA2 9 KA13 8 KA18 8 KA22 8 KA11 7 KA5 7 KA12 6 KA21 6 KA16 4 KA4 4 KA10 3 KA17 3 KA24 3 DG8 2 G82 2 HX3 2 KA15 2 KA20 2 KA23 2 KA30 2 KA7 2 KA8 2 KA9 2 AB52 1 DE7 1 FK2 1 G41 1 G42 1 G74 1 G75 1 G76 1 G77 1 G78 1 G84 1 IP6 1 IV2 1 IV4 1 KA19 1 KA21 1 KA25 1 KA6 1 PA20 1 PA7 1 TD6 1 Grand Total 204 On 11/23/2016 at 9:16 PM, Lroy said: #3 - LOCATION OF KILLIE FANS NOW Centered around KA postcode therefore not all data shown. Click below to show full data table. Reveal hidden contents KA1 26 KA3 18 KA2 7 KA5 7 KA12 6 KA22 6 KA4 6 KA10 5 KA13 5 PA20 4 G3 3 G44 3 KA11 3 KA18 3 KA7 3 PA1 3 AB39 2 DD5 2 G41 2 G74 2 G76 2 G77 2 G84 2 KA17 2 KA30 2 ML9 2 AB1 1 AB10 1 AB25 1 B73 1 B90 1 BA14 1 CA1 1 DG2 1 DG9 1 EH11 1 EH12 1 EH13 1 EH21 1 EH27 1 EH29 1 EH49 1 EH6 1 EH7 1 FK11 1 FK2 1 FK8 1 G14 1 G20 1 G39 1 G42 1 G43 1 G46 1 G51 1 G64 1 G73 1 G75 1 G82 1 IV10 1 IV2 1 KA14 1 KA15 1 KA20 1 KA24 1 KA27 1 KA29 1 KA8 1 KA9 1 KY1 1 KY7 1 LA1 1 LS19 1 LS8 1 M6P 1 ML3 1 NE2 1 NE38 1 NE6 1 PA19 1 PA31 1 PA6 1 PA7 1 PH1 1 PO33 1 TN12 1 TS8 1 TW15 1 WA8 1 Grand Total 198 On 11/23/2016 at 9:23 PM, Lroy said: The difference between these two images is the most interesting thing in my opinion. The "colour scale" is the same for both images. There are many people who have moved away from the KA postcode. You can also see the line between Killie & Ayr areas quite nicely. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorielus Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) That is really interesting - it's a shame it isn't something the club does regularly (as far as I know anyway), it would be handy to be able to trend it over time and see if there's much of an adoption rate of people that move into the KA area. It would also be interested to see how many of them are season tickets holders/regular attendees to see how much of an impact moving out of the immediate area has on attendances over time. Edited July 6, 2020 by Lorielus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skygod Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) On 6/30/2020 at 10:49 PM, marie osmond said: No way they sold 4,500 last year. Correct, but twelve short is no disgrace! And a couple of hundred more than us despite our Early Bird offer, free children's tickets, third place finish and Europa League football. Edited July 6, 2020 by skygod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richaway Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Fair play to them, good effort. Makes our total to date look a bit s**te. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kfcinlancashire Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, skygod said: Correct, but twelve short is no disgrace! And a couple of hundred more than us despite our Early Bird offer, free children's tickets, third place finish and Europa League football. 41 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Must have included a lot of free tickets to people who then did not turn up. Their average crowd was 5557. Over 18 games that means only around 18000 away fans and no walk ups. The old filth would have a minimum of 4000 on each game, did we not take 2000 to each . That is already 20000 with another 12 games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Kfcinlancashire said: Their average crowd was 5557. Over 18 games that means only around 18000 away fans and no walk ups. The old filth would have a minimum of 4000 on each game, did we not take 2000 to each . That is already 20000 with another 12 games. They only played 15 home league matches, two against Celtic and one against Rangers. We only travelled there once, in midweek, so I question whether we took 2,000. Anyway, who cares? They claim to have sold or given away a good number of season tickets - good for them! Edited July 7, 2020 by skygod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 I suppose fan ownership means you have a lot ambassadors trying to create more converts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 10 hours ago, Kfcinlancashire said: Must have included a lot of free tickets to people who then did not turn up. Their average crowd was 5557. Over 18 games that means only around 18000 away fans and no walk ups. The old filth would have a minimum of 4000 on each game, did we not take 2000 to each . That is already 20000 with another 12 games. We've not taken 2,000 to Motherwell for about 20 odd years. Never even had 2,000 on boxing day when Clarke was boss. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdaw Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: We've not taken 2,000 to Motherwell for about 20 odd years. Never even had 2,000 on boxing day when Clarke was boss. Rubbish under steve clarke we won 1-0 at well and both top tier and bottom section were stuffed. more than 2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: We've not taken 2,000 to Motherwell for about 20 odd years. Never even had 2,000 on boxing day when Clarke was boss. You've forgotten the 3-0 cup semi V Falkirk in 2007.... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Richaway said: Fair play to them, good effort. Makes our total to date look a bit s**te. As it stands, it’s a total embarrassment. Hopefully it will even up, but that difference in figures is very hard to explain. Unless it’s all these millionaires in Motherwell. We don’t deserve to compete as it stands, or demand decent signings. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojike and Bod Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: As it stands, it’s a total embarrassment. Hopefully it will even up, but that difference in figures is very hard to explain. Unless it’s all these millionaires in Motherwell. We don’t deserve to compete as it stands, or demand decent signings. Bit of an overreaction as usual. There is no incentive to buy a season ticket early this year. A load of people still to buy/renew. The first home game is v Celtic will be shown on Sky, therefore to access the free streaming service you don't need to have it until mid August. As others have said, by that time our sales won't be far away from the likes of Motherwell and St Mirren. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 Just now, Mojike and Bod said: Bit of an overreaction as usual. There is no incentive to buy a season ticket early this year. A load of people still to buy/renew. The first home game is v Celtic will be shown on Sky, therefore to access the free streaming service you don't need to have it until mid August. As others have said, by that time our sales won't be far away from the likes of Motherwell and St Mirren. Let’s wait and see then. I sincerely hope so. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie89 Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Bigdaw said: Rubbish under steve clarke we won 1-0 at well and both top tier and bottom section were stuffed. more than 2000 Not rubbish actually. It was reported as 1800 at the Boxing Day game - stand nowhere near “stuffed.” The only other time we played them there under Clarke it was considerably less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Bigdaw said: Rubbish under steve clarke we won 1-0 at well and both top tier and bottom section were stuffed. more than 2000 Crowd that day was 1850 in away end. 38 minutes ago, killie89 said: Not rubbish actually. It was reported as 1800 at the Boxing Day game - stand nowhere near “stuffed.” The only other time we played them there under Clarke it was considerably less. Exactly. Love how folk just make up numbers to suit their argument. We've not taken over 2,000 up there since first few years back in the top flight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KFCSteve Posted July 7, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 This whole debate has been annoying me from the start comparing our club to Motherwell's. Yes the clubs are of a similar size and a good marker of where we want to be but there is a few things to remember 1. They would like to get to 4500 doesn't mean they will (I'm pretty sure they would like 10k but they are being realistic) 2. Motherwell started selling season tickets on the 6th April we didn't start until 12th June, over 2 months later 3. It took Motherwell a month to announce hitting the 1500 sales mark, we done it in less than half that time. 4. We will be down on ST sales for the few reasons already mentioned, my father in law who has had a ST for 15+ years and would normally buy his ST as soon as they went on sale hasn't this year as he doesn't know how stable his job is right now and I'm sure there will be plenty more like that 5. Why debate it, if you can afford a ticket and have bought one then you've done your bit, if you can encourage a mate to also get one even better if not the sales will be what they will be 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfc_superteam Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 Interesting that Hamilton Virtual Season tickets are showing home games except the Rangers game as its on sky. So effectively you could buy a virtual season ticket but if the game is on sky you don't get it. This will be the same for us. This looks to be the agreement with the spfl and sky but totally rubbish for the supporters who would need both a sky subscription and virtual season ticket to watch games. In no other industry apart from football would you get away with this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieDJ Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, kfc_superteam said: Interesting that Hamilton Virtual Season tickets are showing home games except the Rangers game as its on sky. So effectively you could buy a virtual season ticket but if the game is on sky you don't get it. This will be the same for us. This looks to be the agreement with the spfl and sky but totally rubbish for the supporters who would need both a sky subscription and virtual season ticket to watch games. In no other industry apart from football would you get away with this. There was something on Twitter that apparently Hamilton aren't selling actual season tickets so the above is supposedly a 'pay per game' option for non Sky games. All clubs selling season tickets are advertising that their virtual season tickets will cover ALL games, even those which SKY are showing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, KFCSteve said: This whole debate has been annoying me from the start comparing our club to Motherwell's. Yes the clubs are of a similar size and a good marker of where we want to be but there is a few things to remember 1. They would like to get to 4500 doesn't mean they will (I'm pretty sure they would like 10k but they are being realistic) 2. Motherwell started selling season tickets on the 6th April we didn't start until 12th June, over 2 months later 3. It took Motherwell a month to announce hitting the 1500 sales mark, we done it in less than half that time. 4. We will be down on ST sales for the few reasons already mentioned, my father in law who has had a ST for 15+ years and would normally buy his ST as soon as they went on sale hasn't this year as he doesn't know how stable his job is right now and I'm sure there will be plenty more like that 5. Why debate it, if you can afford a ticket and have bought one then you've done your bit, if you can encourage a mate to also get one even better if not the sales will be what they will be Are all the jobs in Motherwell stable, or is it just Ayrshire that’s suffering from COVID? Debate is what the forum is for and it’s down to people wanting the best club we can have and maximising our limited potential. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorielus Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, KFCSteve said: This whole debate has been annoying me from the start comparing our club to Motherwell's. Yes the clubs are of a similar size and a good marker of where we want to be but there is a few things to remember 1. They would like to get to 4500 doesn't mean they will (I'm pretty sure they would like 10k but they are being realistic) 2. Motherwell started selling season tickets on the 6th April we didn't start until 12th June, over 2 months later 3. It took Motherwell a month to announce hitting the 1500 sales mark, we done it in less than half that time. 4. We will be down on ST sales for the few reasons already mentioned, my father in law who has had a ST for 15+ years and would normally buy his ST as soon as they went on sale hasn't this year as he doesn't know how stable his job is right now and I'm sure there will be plenty more like that 5. Why debate it, if you can afford a ticket and have bought one then you've done your bit, if you can encourage a mate to also get one even better if not the sales will be what they will be Looking at their website, their (main/side stand) ticket pricing is substantial cheaper than ours: - Adult £330 versus £370 - Under-21 is £185 versus £220 for our 16-18 - Under 16 is £20 versus £70 - Over 60 is £185 versus £220 for our over 65 - One free under 16 with a family adult/family over 60 So our pricing isn't nearly as attractive which can't help. Edited July 7, 2020 by Lorielus 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lorielus said: Looking at their website, their (main/side stand) ticket pricing is substantial cheaper than ours: - Adult £330 versus £370 - Under-21 is £185 versus £220 for our 16-18 - Under 16 is £20 versus £70 - Over 60 is £185 versus £220 for our over 65 - One free under 16 with a family adult/family over 60 So our pricing isn't nearly as attractive which can't help. Is their main stand their cheapest option? I would say our family season ticket for the moffat would be the best value. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Lorielus said: Looking at their website, their (main/side stand) ticket pricing is substantial cheaper than ours: - Adult £330 versus £370 - Under-21 is £185 versus £220 for our 16-18 - Under 16 is £20 versus £70 - Over 60 is £185 versus £220 for our over 65 - One free under 16 with a family adult/family over 60 So our pricing isn't nearly as attractive which can't help. I would be £515 based on those prices, against £590 at RP, based on adult and a 16 year old. Said it before but for some categories there has been a huge jump in price for those changing cat, at Killie. pointless comparison though cause I ain’t going to Motherwell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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