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Might’ve already been mentioned but has it been factored in that ST holders will have access to closed door games via Killie tv, yet some won’t be exclusive to ST holders as they’ll also be on sky? Does that not devalue a ST?

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Slightly off the topic of season tickets sold but in relation to the size of our crowds in general, I found a copy whilst clearing out my mothers’ loft of the Kilmarnock Annual (no, I’d never heard of it either) that came out in early December 1965.

Amongst many interesting articles about the town and Ayrshire in general, including one on Irvine Fishmonger Bert Benzie - the Referee with the sense of humour- was an excellent piece by Alistair Macmillan on Killie’s Year of Triumph.

It contained the following, remember this was us on the back of a title win and having been runners up in 4 of the 5 previous seasons, regular League Cup and Scottish Cup semi and Final appearances and pushing Real Madrid close at Rugby Park.....

” Those Poor Gates - the team which strived so hard to bring honour to the town are faced week by week with the degrading experience of performing before a mere six or seven thousand spectators. Why is there such a lack of interest in football in a town the size of Kilmarnock? Why do people not turn out in force to support the team week by week? Why is it they turn up with their blue and white scarves only when Rangers, Celtic and teams like Real Madrid come to town?

It’s  all very well saying that there are too many alternatives to Saturday afternoon football nowadays. This is indeed so. Television, racing, an afternoon jaunt in the family car and many other attractions are open to the football fan nowadays, more than ever before. But the knawing question is : why are the alternatives preferred?
 

Can it be with the team itself? A lot of questions and each very difficult to answer. Teams like St Johnstone in Perth, Dundee and Dundee Utd, Aberdeen and Dunfermline command a better support each week than the Scottish League Champions. 
 

It may be feasible to say Kilmarnock have signed fewer  football personalities in the past five or six years than any other club in Scotland. There is perhaps a lack of new faces . Maybe, although the team is doing well, the football they are serving up is not attractive enough for some people. Perhaps an Andy Kerr or a Bud Maxwell would solve the Kilmarnock problem”

Different times, yes, but if we could only attract 6-7,000 home crowds, old firm apart, during the glory days, why should we realistically expect to get more than on average we do in times of higher unemployment, many more attractions than an afternoon jaunt in the family car and probably the cost to get in proportionately more than back in the 1960’s?

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4 minutes ago, G said:

Might’ve already been mentioned but has it been factored in that ST holders will have access to closed door games via Killie tv, yet some won’t be exclusive to ST holders as they’ll also be on sky? Does that not devalue a ST?

It's not much different to having a ticket to a normal game that's on TV. You're paying for viewing access not exclusivity. You don't go to home games v Celtic and Rangers and moan that it would have been cheaper to have sat on the couch.

Plus, if you want it, you're getting your streams refunded off next seasons ticket. The stream is going to cost you effectively £0.

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Slightly off the topic of season tickets sold but in relation to the size of our crowds in general, I found a copy whilst clearing out my mothers’ loft of the Kilmarnock Annual (no, I’d never heard of it either) that came out in early December 1965.

Amongst many interesting articles about the town and Ayrshire in general, including one on Irvine Fishmonger Bert Benzie - the Referee with the sense of humour- was an excellent piece by Alistair Macmillan on Killie’s Year of Triumph.

It contained the following, remember this was us on the back of a title win and having been runners up in 4 of the 5 previous seasons, regular League Cup and Scottish Cup semi and Final appearances and pushing Real Madrid close at Rugby Park.....

” Those Poor Gates - the team which strived so hard to bring honour to the town are faced week by week with the degrading experience of performing before a mere six or seven thousand spectators. Why is there such a lack of interest in football in a town the size of Kilmarnock? Why do people not turn out in force to support the team week by week? Why is it they turn up with their blue and white scarves only when Rangers, Celtic and teams like Real Madrid come to town?

It’s  all very well saying that there are too many alternatives to Saturday afternoon football nowadays. This is indeed so. Television, racing, an afternoon jaunt in the family car and many other attractions are open to the football fan nowadays, more than ever before. But the knawing question is : why are the alternatives preferred?
 

Can it be with the team itself? A lot of questions and each very difficult to answer. Teams like St Johnstone in Perth, Dundee and Dundee Utd, Aberdeen and Dunfermline command a better support each week than the Scottish League Champions. 
 

It may be feasible to say Kilmarnock have signed fewer  football personalities in the past five or six years than any other club in Scotland. There is perhaps a lack of new faces . Maybe, although the team is doing well, the football they are serving up is not attractive enough for some people. Perhaps an Andy Kerr or a Bud Maxwell would solve the Kilmarnock problem”

Different times, yes, but if we could only attract 6-7,000 home crowds, old firm apart, during the glory days, why should we realistically expect to get more than on average we do in times of higher unemployment, many more attractions than an afternoon jaunt in the family car and probably the cost to get in proportionately more than back in the 1960’s?

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27 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said:

We never sold 4200. A lot of U16s in that. 

The question was “How many did we do last season?”

That was the number given out by the club and it wasn’t broken down into paid for and free. 

If every adult ticket was eligible for a free child one, the uptake would have been quite high, I think. 

It’s not clear either how many a family ticket counts as. Four?

More clarity on season ticket numbers would be welcome but even an undefined total is better than nothing, which is what we’re used to! 

 

 

 

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Really can't look too much in to this season's ST sales. For a start, the freebie under 16's aren't included which would account for roughly 800-1000 and also many fans will be holding off either for financial reasons or just that they are unsure what the current season will entail and if there could be further lockdowns. I really don't think we should get too hung up on the numbers or compare to other clubs

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