ki11ie Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Bad mistake, no real excuse. Don’t right him off yet, sure Bachmann had a poor debut against rangers in the cup 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superfan Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, historyman said: I don’t blame the keeper. I blame a bad decision from the manager. It made no sense at all and the events of the day have probably left both goalies pissed off. I would doubt that very much. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, ki11ie said: Bad mistake, no real excuse. Don’t right him off yet, sure Bachmann had a poor debut against rangers in the cup The goalkeeping at the second goal was actually quite similar to the Morelos (I think) goal in that game where Scott Boyd got turned. Eastwood made a rash decision at the first goal but other than that he made a very good save at 1-0 down and came out and collected a cross looking very steady. Wouldn't be overly concerned about him. Edited August 2, 2020 by Fletch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki11ie Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 53 minutes ago, Fletch said: The goalkeeping at the second goal was actually quite similar to the Morelos (I think) goal in that game where Scott Boyd got turned. Eastwood made a rash decision at the first goal but other than that he made a very good save at 1-0 down and came out and collected a cross looking very steady. Wouldn't be overly concerned about him. Rush of blood for the first goal. Trying to hard to make an impression likely. Hopefully he shows his worth next week. Cause he’ll be busy for sure 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey Repatriated Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Very odd from Dyer to say afterwards he's number one. Bit of a kick in the balls for Rogers. Somone days aw no a sweeper keeper from one of his screenshots. Seems they were right! (Tougue firmly in cheek) -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetfitter Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Bad acid flashback. It certainly was a ‘Roger’ Mellie moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 9 hours ago, Pompey Exile said: Very odd from Dyer to say afterwards he's number one. Bit of a kick in the balls for Rogers. Somone days aw no a sweeper keeper from one of his screenshots. Seems they were right! (Tougue firmly in cheek) I feel for Rogers. I thought the defence looked much more settled with him in goal and Hibs weren't carving us open at all. God knows how good a keeper he is because he didn't make a save second half but I would say he deserves to start against Celtic given how much more confident the defence were in him. Eastwood should have to earn his place. He hasn't done that yet and Saturday showed he needs time on the training ground to battle it out with Rogers for the starting spot. As said above...he should never have started. We signed him Wednesday and Sheffield United haven't been training for a week or so as the season was over. We should have played Rogers and told Eastwood to earn that place over the coming weeks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 In hindsight it looks like a poor decision to start him over Rogers. Although he might have just looked a level above in training the past few days and why Dyer had went for him over Rogers. Unfortunately for GK’s any mistakes they made usually end up in a goal. He came and claimed a cross not long after the error and also made a good save from Newall. Hopefullly turns out to be a decent signing going forward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanWithaTypewritter Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, livvy said: I feel for Rogers. I thought the defence looked much more settled with him in goal and Hibs weren't carving us open at all. God knows how good a keeper he is because he didn't make a save second half but I would say he deserves to start against Celtic given how much more confident the defence were in him. Eastwood should have to earn his place. He hasn't done that yet and Saturday showed he needs time on the training ground to battle it out with Rogers for the starting spot. As said above...he should never have started. We signed him Wednesday and Sheffield United haven't been training for a week or so as the season was over. We should have played Rogers and told Eastwood to earn that place over the coming weeks. So could it be a contractual matter that he plays when fit? Surely not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Posted August 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, FanWithaTypewritter said: So could it be a contractual matter that he plays when fit? Surely not. Wasn't that Woodman's deal? I'm sure Clark came clean about it after the fact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Skora11 said: Unfortunately for GK’s any mistakes they made usually end up in a goal. He came and claimed a cross not long after the error and also made a good save from Newall. I think if the order of these events had been reversed, there might have been less shock at the time. Or if it had been a handling error. It was just that his first involvement in the match was such bad judgement that it looked like he'd never played in goal before! When Lekovic was sent off in a 5-1 win over Raith Rovers and Gus went in goal for most of the second half, wasn't it after a similarly kamikaze excursion from his area? It happens. I'm inclined to put it down to nerves and move on, as much as he can move on if he's injured. But he has to earn his place. Dyer saying that he is No. 1 can't be right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelesboots Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, livvy said: .he should never have started. We signed him Wednesday and Sheffield United haven't been training for a week or so as the season was over. We should have played Rogers and told Eastwood to earn that place over the coming weeks. Out of interest, say we had signed Bachmann on Wednesday would you have played him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 Keepers make mistakes, it’s in the nature of the job. It’s not a huge issue. Making the same mistake repeatedly and not learning from it is a problem. The guy has made one mistake, stop over analysing it and move on. Getting jittery won’t help anyone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter's Heeder Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, FanWithaTypewritter said: So could it be a contractual matter that he plays when fit? Surely not. I really hope not. That would be a huge gamble to take for a goalkeeper with so little experience. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrogate Peter Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 I think the 'Great save' after the first goal is being overstated. For me that wasn't right in the corner and at a manageable height should be saved 75% of the time. Certainly would have added to criticism on here if it had gone in. If it's true that he's guaranteed first choice as part of the loan deal that's a terrible deal if he turns out to be another Woodman manager shouldn't be boxed in like that! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Harrogate Peter said: I think the 'Great save' after the first goal is being overstated. For me that wasn't right in the corner and at a manageable height should be saved 75% of the time. Certainly would have added to criticism on here if it had gone in. If it's true that he's guaranteed first choice as part of the loan deal that's a terrible deal if he turns out to be another Woodman manager shouldn't be boxed in like that! If he turns out to be another Woodman then we’ve got a very good goalkeeper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 38 minutes ago, Pelesboots said: Out of interest, say we had signed Bachmann on Wednesday would you have played him? You mean a keeper who had previously played with all of the back four and knows nine of the starting team? It doesn't seem a fair comparison. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey Repatriated Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 Yep we know what we're getting with Bachman. Eastwood still very much an unknown 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbk Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 If he learns from his first 45mins which I'm sure he will then we may have a decent player with us and btw thanks for your input old chum spot on! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrogate Peter Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 If the deal is Eastwood has to play when fit then Rogers has been totally screwed over and managers ability to manage is undermined. I'd never go for a deal like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Harrogate Peter said: If the deal is Eastwood has to play when fit then Rogers has been totally screwed over and managers ability to manage is undermined. I'd never go for a deal like that. I would imagine Rogers knew he would be second choice the minute a loan deal keeper came in. Same thing happened when Woodman and Bachmann arrived on loan. Rogers still has a chance to become first choice if Eastwood makes any more clangers like the one on Saturday, plus he'll probably get to play in the League Cup games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Superscot Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 Bachman didn’t go straight into the team. MacDonald played until dropped by Steve Clarke (the week he was selected for the Scotland squad) some time later. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimmy Superscot said: Bachman didn’t go straight into the team. MacDonald played until dropped by Steve Clarke (the week he was selected for the Scotland squad) some time later. Yes, stand corrected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimmy Superscot said: Bachman didn’t go straight into the team. MacDonald played until dropped by Steve Clarke (the week he was selected for the Scotland squad) some time later. Correct happened at Tynecastle. Jamie was dropped and Ross Millen deputised for SOD. Big Dan had a stormer and never looked back. Ross scored the winning goal. Happy days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvy Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Pelesboots said: Out of interest, say we had signed Bachmann on Wednesday would you have played him? Honestly...probably not. But that would be a different scenario as Bachmann had played and trained with all the defenders who played so I could see logic in that situation. Bachmann is also tried and tested at this level which is another thing to factor in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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