Popular Post skygod Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Kilmarnock boss Alex Dyer feels players should take the knee in support of the Black Lives Matter campaign “for as long as it takes to get the message out there”. The Scottish Professional Football League announced on Tuesday that players will be given the chance to take a knee before kick-off when the new Scottish Premiership season gets under way this weekend. In partnership with PFA Scotland and Show Racism the Red Card, the SPFL said players will also wear special t-shirts on the opening day to promote Scotland’s anti-racism charity. When asked how long players should take a knee for, Dyer said: “As long as it takes to get the message out there. “It’s a choice as well by the way, I’m not saying everyone has to do it. “If they feel like they don’t want to take the knee then it’s no problem. A black person shouldn’t discriminate against somebody who doesn’t want to take the knee, it’s their life. “We like to see that people are responsive to it and if they take it on board, but if they don’t, fair enough. It’s not a major issue, everyone has a choice.” Dyer, whose side play at Hibernian in their opening game, signed a two-year deal in June to become Kilmarnock’s permanent manager. The former Blackpool, Oxford and Charlton defender had taken caretaker charge in December when Angelo Alessio was sacked. Seven new players have arrived at Rugby Park since Dyer led Killie to an eighth-placed finish last season, and another is expected to be announced soon. “I’m just about to bring a goalkeeper in any time now,” said Dyer, who has already signed former Aberdeen goalkeeper Danny Rogers. “Whether he’ll be ready for Saturday or not, we’ll have to wait and see, but there will be one in the building, definitely. “We also want to bring in (players) for another couple of positions, I don’t really want to say, but we’ll be bringing in one or two others.” This summer, 15 players who had been in Dyer’s first-team squad have either moved on or returned to their parent club. Dyer added: “My aim is to stay in this league. I know it’s a bit boring, but it’s the honest truth. “We’ve seen what happened to Hearts and no-one wants to be in that predicament.” https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/alex-dyer-urges-players-to-take-the-knee-for-as-long-as-it-takes-1596120621000 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bute-killiefan Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Far too sensible. Aren't you supposed to be either 100% for it or against it? Honestly though, his comments are spot on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilm53 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 A lot of different views on players taking a knee.... I know mine but I won't comment.. -20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted July 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) It will be interesting to see what happens when fans are allowed back in. I'm seeing quite a lot of opposition on Twitter from supporters of big English clubs. I imagine Rangers are the same. Edited July 30, 2020 by skygod 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFCDJ Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, kilm53 said: A lot of different views on players taking a knee.... I know mine but I won't comment.. I imagine it's very enlightened. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFCDJ Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, skygod said: I will be interesting to see what happens when fans are allowed back in. I'm seeing quite a lot of opposition on Twitter from supporters of big English clubs. I imagine Rangers are the same. Wasn't Goldson in the press for responding to some clowns who support that lot? I do recall seeing some comments about, for example, "only taking a knee for the queen" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, skygod said: I'm seeing quite a lot of opposition on Twitter from supporters of big English clubs. I imagine Rangers are the same. Tread with caution on the SevCo angle. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Killieboykfc Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 59 minutes ago, kilm53 said: A lot of different views on players taking a knee.... I know mine but I won't comment.. I won’t comment but I’ll just comment with a wee cryptic message letting everyone know I’m against it. f**k off. 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, kilm53 said: A lot of different views on players taking a knee.... I know mine but I won't comment.. You just did..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fletch Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) Alex Dyer couldn't be clearer in the pre-Hibs presser, the whole message is about fairness. It's astounding some people just aren't getting it. Anyway, not to stoke a political argument. Nobody should be made to be uncomfortable at work, especially black members of staff of Kilmarnock FC and for that reason everyone should be backing our manager and his stance. Edited July 30, 2020 by Fletch 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Fletch said: Alex Dyer couldn't be clearer in the pre-Hibs presser, the whole message is about fairness. It's astounding some people just aren't getting it. Anyway, not to stoke a political argument. Nobody should be made to be uncomfortable at work, especially black members of staff of Kilmarnock FC and for that reason everyone should be backing our manager and his stance. Exactly this. No one should be made to feel uncomfortable at work. Especially if they feel they are being pressured into making a political statement.... -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFCDJ Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, stewarty66 said: Exactly this. No one should be made to feel uncomfortable at work. Especially if they feel they are being pressured into making a political statement.... I would like to think that the club's players don't feel pressured into any actions or gestures. If they want to do it, then they should. I've long felt the same about players having to wear a poppy on their shirt, or any other such statements. It should be the individual's decision. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcr0 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Don’t have a strong feeling either way. Not keen on the black power Glove thing though -8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dillinger Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Apart from the fact it's a nice thing to do to show solidarity with minorities, far more importantly it will drive the Rangers fans absolutely potty... 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stewarty66 Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, KFCDJ said: I would like to think that the club's players don't feel pressured into any actions or gestures. If they want to do it, then they should. I've long felt the same about players having to wear a poppy on their shirt, or any other such statements. It should be the individual's decision. Exactly . Whether you agree with him or not I admire James McLean for sticking to his principles regarding the poppy issue 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedsy Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, stewarty66 said: Exactly this. No one should be made to feel uncomfortable at work. Especially if they feel they are being pressured into making a political statement.... What about an equality statement? Players are taking the knee to show solidarity with their fellow colleagues, not because they have a political agenda Edited July 30, 2020 by seedsy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, stewarty66 said: Exactly . Whether you agree with him or not I admire James McLean for sticking to his principles regarding the poppy issue For me it’s exactly the same. We are supposed to live in a free thinking democracy. Taking the knee is a personal choice but it takes guts for someone not to do it when everyone else around them does it. I don’t agree with James McLean not wearing a poppy but I fully respect his decision not to, it’s become a political thing with people being made to ensure they wear one for the cameras. let people make up their own minds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedsy Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Fudger said: For me it’s exactly the same. We are supposed to live in a free thinking democracy. Taking the knee is a personal choice but it takes guts for someone not to do it when everyone else around them does it. I don’t agree with James McLean not wearing a poppy but I fully respect his decision not to, it’s become a political thing with people being made to ensure they wear one for the cameras. let people make up their own minds. If taking the knee is for equality, why wouldn't you do it? Wearing a poppy and taking to the knee is not even apple and oranges 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy123 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 thought the football leagues both in England and Scotland were not allowed to make any political statements. -9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy123 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 when we are allowed back in the ground we can sing "We hate Ayr B***k bastards" While the players are talking the knee. (I dont approve of the song the above comment is sarcasm btw) -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James K Polk Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, andy123 said: thought the football leagues both in England and Scotland were not allowed to make any political statements. If what you wrote was true then both FAs would also have to stop working with Kick it out, as Seedsy though well pointed out above this is not political but about equality. I think Dyers comments are on point for this. I do like to think that our players will show solidarity with our manager who has experienced prejudice and racism firsthand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedsy Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, andy123 said: thought the football leagues both in England and Scotland were not allowed to make any political statements. Since when is standing next to and showing solidarity with colleagues a political statement Strip away all the bollocks that the media and obviously the toxic social media have tried to tar BLM movement with, I just see in football, the taking of the knee a really positive thing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy123 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 I dont think we have an issue in Scotland regarding racism so dont know why we are highlighting black lives matter. Feels like we are saying we have an issue here to like other countries and we have to promote black lives matter to change how people think/act etc -20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy123 Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, seedsy said: Since when is standing next to and showing solidarity with colleagues a political statement Strip away all the bollocks that the media and obviously the toxic social media have tried to tar BLM movement with, I just see in football, the taking of the knee a really positive thing. Why we don't have an issue. By taking the knee it will not make other countries which are blatantly racist change there views. I think it makes us look like we to have racism problems. Will the countries where it actually matters be doing it. Example russia/Croatia/serbia to name a few -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy_boy Posted July 30, 2020 Report Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, andy123 said: I dont think we have an issue in Scotland regarding racism Not.... sure.... if..... serious. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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