piffer Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bhamkillieken said: in hindsight the keeper had a rush of blood, but he didnt fancy captain kirk to win the race, which he didnt, and covering defender lets in in near post. the second goal goes through waters legs. its a team game. keeping a high line with captain kirk is going to be unwise. but we have 2 new full backs to come in (which hopefully are better than we have), a winger (which hopefully is an improvement) and Brophy so reasons to be cheerful! Do you think he underestimated how quick Boyle was. Had he been more familiar with the league maybe he makes a different call. Another striker and he may get there first. I completely agree about others not covering themselves in glory. Both goals start with Power getting caught and losing possession cheaply. From that there mistakes through our team until the ball hits the back of the net. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch14 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, piffer said: Do you think he underestimated how quick Boyle was. Had he been more familiar with the league maybe he makes a different call. Another striker and he may get there first. Not for a minute dismissing the general point here - better to go with Rogers - but I imagine "Boyle is f**king quick" was a fairly prominent part of instructions to the team in the buildup that Eastwood would have been part of. Which potentially makes the mistake worse actually... But I think it was a rush he would have made regardless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey Repatriated Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 11 hours ago, Killie1984 said: But the problem is since Dyer has been in charge we are saying for the vast majority of games, played well, a couple of mistakes, on another day, if we had just taken our chances, would have been taking 3 points. We need to start winning these games sooner rather than later This for me. Early days but we do need to start delivering 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Bhamkillieken said: ...but we have 2 new full backs to come in (which hopefully are better than we have)... Millen wouldn't deserve to be left out after yesterday. Tshibola was excellent in his application and execution but we need Dicker in as security. If Pinnock can get down the left and supply crosses, he would be an improvement. If he links up well with Haunstrup, so much the better. But we are going to struggle for goals even with Brophy in the team. I think we have to try Whitehall and Cameron to see if they can offer more than Kabamba. More than ever this season, it's going to be a squad game with substitutions critical and players like McKenzie and Kiltie will be important to do a job from time to time. We played well up to the edge of the box and there were promising signs. It's important not to get off to a slow start though. Experimentation time has been reduced and the teams which settle quickest are going to profit most. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCM Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Keeper should never have come out like that, Broadfoot and Findlay are in line with Boyle when he makes his stupid challenge. Others better qualified than me will keep me right, but keepers positioning for second looks a bit suspect, he shows a lot of the goals for Boyle to aim at. Power loses out almost at their penalty box, they move the ball up the park very quickly, something we seldom do as we do not have pacey players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, GCM said: Keeper should never have come out like that, Broadfoot and Findlay are in line with Boyle when he makes his stupid challenge. Others better qualified than me will keep me right, but keepers positioning for second looks a bit suspect, he shows a lot of the goals for Boyle to aim at. The angle and pace of Boyle's run was great but we had three defenders in the vicinity. With Broadfoot first and Findlay backing up, the worst outcome should have been a free-kick. I thought his positioning at the second was fine. A firm, accurate shot taken early. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilm53 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 From what was said yesterday..Broadfoot was left for dead and the keeper had to react..surely down to an ageing defender 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepie Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Keeper should never have come for the first goal. Second goal his positioning doesn’t look bad. The only way Boyle was scoring was putting through Waters legs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Big Larry would have had a clean sheet yesterday and that's saying something! First goal we all know he made a complete arse of and the second I thought his angles were poor and he never extended his arms enough. Having seen the image above, I standby that. Larry would never have ran off his line like that (he was always superglued to it) and he would have saved Boyles second, as would Jamie Mac. -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, kilm53 said: From what was said yesterday..Broadfoot was left for dead and the keeper had to react..surely down to an ageing defender 11 minutes ago, kilm53 said: From what was said yesterday..Broadfoot was left for dead and the keeper had to react..surely down to an ageing defender Difficult to apportion blame if you haven't seen the goal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuirP Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Killiepie said: Keeper should never have come for the first goal. Second goal his positioning doesn’t look bad. The only way Boyle was scoring was putting through Waters legs. I don't think Waters does to much wrong here, just unlucky. He stands him up, doesn't dive in and give away a silly fowl. Shows him the outside stopping him coming inside, he is trying to force the near post shot which the keeper would have covered with his positioning. 8-9 times out of 10 that cross goal shot would deflect off waters either out for a corner or into the path of one of the other defenders to clear. Just unlucky it finds the gap between his legs and into the far side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, kilm53 said: From what was said yesterday..Broadfoot was left for dead and the keeper had to react..surely down to an ageing defender Left for dead? The shot literally went through Broadfoots legs... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilm53 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Haven't seen any of the game yet..just going by comments on the Hibs away thread..I was out at Loch Lomond walking yesterday...hopefully see the highlights today..thanks for clearing this up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepie Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bullitt said: Big Larry would have had a clean sheet yesterday and that's saying something! First goal we all know he made a complete arse of and the second I thought his angles were poor and he never extended his arms enough. Having seen the image above, I standby that. Larry would never have ran off his line like that (he was always superglued to it) and he would have saved Boyles second, as would Jamie Mac. His arms fully extended would still be nowhere near the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Just now, Killiepie said: His arms fully extended would still be nowhere near the ball. Which again means his starting position was wrong. That photo makes it look even worse than I thought at the time. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuirP Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bullitt said: Which again means his starting position was wrong. That photo makes it look even worse than I thought at the time. The only way he could get to that shot would be if his positioning was more central, but if he did that and Boyles shot flew in the near post the keeper would be getting criticized for getting beat at the near post. Why can't it be taken for what it was, a good finish from a confident striker? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepie Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MuirP said: The only way he could get to that shot would be if his positioning was more central, but if he did that and Boyles shot flew in the near post the keeper would be getting criticized for getting beat at the near post. Why can't it be taken for what it was, a good finish from a confident striker? Exactly this. It’s a very good finish. Edited August 2, 2020 by Killiepie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 If goalkeepers could cover every square inch of the goal, most games would end up 0-0. The lad carries the can for the first. Trying to pin the second on him as well is too much. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncarin Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Pity the treatment room is full and Alex mcQueen and Ross Goodwin are away 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Only players at fault for the 2nd are waters and power. Waters takes the brunt of it though. Criminal to let him get a shot away like that. FWIW I thought Eastwood had a good game other than the howler for the first goal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride_of_ayrshire Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, Killiepie said: Keeper should never have come for the first goal. Second goal his positioning doesn’t look bad. The only way Boyle was scoring was putting through Waters legs. Watching sportcene last night it seemed it took a slight knick of Waters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride_of_ayrshire Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ngonge88 said: Only players at fault for the 2nd are waters and power. Waters takes the brunt of it though. Criminal to let him get a shot away like that. FWIW I thought Eastwood had a good game other than the howler for the first goal Power?? Tish slid in let allan take it by him far to easy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ngonge88 said: Only players at fault for the 2nd are waters and power. I wouldn't blame Waters. Tshibola's attempt at a tackle was poor though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pride_of_ayrshire said: Power?? Tish slid in let allan take it by him far to easy. You know. The guy who decided he thought he was Kaka for a minute when he went a meaningless dribble towards the left side and got the ball taken off him like he was an amateur. Yes tish didnt cover himself in glory with the tackle but he flew in trying to stop something because his midfield partner left him stranded 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, skygod said: I wouldn't blame Waters. Tshibola's attempt at a tackle was poor though. A full back has got to be tighter to stop the shot getting away like that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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