C4mmy31 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Thebigguy68 said: I suppose “realistically” is your key word. I think we need to alter the whole approach to recruitment and salaries to make it possible to make the the number 9 our best/highest paid player. Putting that to the side for now, they would come from one of 3 categories; 1. Young hungry players making an impact with smaller clubs, Calum hendry at st j, Ross Stewart at county or Kevin Ohara at Alloa are the 3 standouts for me in that category. The first two would command a substantial fee but offset by monies for the wolf. 2. Players with ability but struggling in some way. Griffiths on loan or maybe less popular choice Curtis Main 3. Players at end of career but wanting to come back “home”. A guy like Steven fletcher for example. He too rich for us right now seems but that type of profile of Scottish player maybe looking to play last couple of seasons up here. O'Hara signed for Dunfermline about 6 weeks ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebigguy68 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, C4mmy31 said: O'Hara signed for Dunfermline about 6 weeks ago. Missed that. Only surprise to me that premier team didn’t sign him. Will be interesting to see how he does in what should be better standard of supply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Thebigguy68 said: Missed that. Only surprise to me that premier team didn’t sign him. Will be interesting to see how he does in what should be better standard of supply. I think he was signed a day or two after Nisbet left for Hibs..... agree he could be worth keeping an eye on but Dunfermline would probably want a fee outwith our budget if he turned out anything like Nisbet. Edited August 30, 2020 by C4mmy31 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebigguy68 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: I think he was signed a day or two after Nisbet left for Hibs..... agree he could be worth keeping an eye on but Dunfermline would probably want a fee outwith our budget if he turned out anything like Nisbet. Maybe smart. That’s the model I’m talking about for us. Sell our assets at right time and replace with good potential replacements. Anyway, it’s deviated from kabamba so better get back on topic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) To sell you need to have somebody who wants the player. We haven't not sold Brophy for a seven figure fee because we don't want to. You also need to have the player on a decent contract to attract worthwhile value which is very difficult at this level, as soon as a player starts attracting interest they know they can see it out at this level and get a massive increase in wages, that we can't afford without bankrupting ourselves, elsewhere. Not to knock this level, which is very good. It's just a consequence of being over the border to the richest league in the world and the trickle down impact in English football. Edited August 30, 2020 by Fletch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killieboykfc Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Thebigguy68 said: Missed that. Only surprise to me that premier team didn’t sign him. Will be interesting to see how he does in what should be better standard of supply. It’s really not that much of a surprise. He’s not that good and if you seriously think he would be a better option for us than Brophy then you need to lay off the glue. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebigguy68 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Killieboykfc said: It’s really not that much of a surprise. He’s not that good and if you seriously think he would be a better option for us than Brophy then you need to lay off the glue. You missing the point of the post. We need to be able to sell our players when they have value and replace, he is only one of the options mentioned for those on the less ambitious end of the spectrum. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1981 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Fletch said: To sell you need to have somebody who wants the player. We haven't not sold Brophy for a seven figure fee because we don't want to. To think Brophy could command a seven figure fee is baffling. He isnt prolific and isnt a "target man". Brophy will probably move on at the end of the season and then hopefully Killie might be able to get the goal scoring striker that they have been needing since Boyd left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Thebigguy68 said: I suppose “realistically” is your key word. I think we need to alter the whole approach to recruitment and salaries to make it possible to make the the number 9 our best/highest paid player. Putting that to the side for now, they would come from one of 3 categories; 1. Young hungry players making an impact with smaller clubs, Calum hendry at st j, Ross Stewart at county or Kevin Ohara at Alloa are the 3 standouts for me in that category. The first two would command a substantial fee but offset by monies for the wolf. 2. Players with ability but struggling in some way. Griffiths on loan or maybe less popular choice Curtis Main 3. Players at end of career but wanting to come back “home”. A guy like Steven fletcher for example. He too rich for us right now seems but that type of profile of Scottish player maybe looking to play last couple of seasons up here. Are Callum Hendry and Ross Stewart better than Brophy though? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killieboykfc Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Skora11 said: Are Callum Hendry and Ross Stewart better than Brophy though? Nah they’re not. Hendry is quite similar to Brophy in the sense that he constantly shoots but his all round game is no where near Brophy’s. Stewart is a good player who offer different options to Brophy but I would still rather have Eamon. He’s also the exact same age as him so he’s hardly a young replacement for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdaw Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 At the moment in goals per game for the Club it stands at. Kabamba 18 games = 6 goals - ave = 0.33 per game. Brophy 102 games = 33 goals- ave = 032 per game and for a matter of interest; Greg Stewart 16 games = 8 - ave 0.50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies PaPa Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Figures not comparable due to number of Brophy goals from the penalty spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDeeBop Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Charlies PaPa said: Figures not comparable due to number of Brophy goals from the penalty spot. They're still goals. They still count. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 26 minutes ago, Bigdaw said: At the moment in goals per game for the Club it stands at. Kabamba 18 games = 6 goals - ave = 0.33 per game. Brophy 102 games = 33 goals- ave = 032 per game and for a matter of interest; Greg Stewart 16 games = 8 - ave 0.50 Brophy also came off the bench 26 times out of those 102 games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy_boy Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 51 minutes ago, Charlies PaPa said: Figures not comparable due to number of Brophy goals from the penalty spot. Nah. A good penalty taker is vital. We'd be bemoaning it if he had a poor record from the spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1981 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Another way and more straight to the point view is Brophy averages 10 goals a season. IMO that isnt good enough to make claims that he is our "no.1" striker and irreplaceable. I'd love for Kabamba to get 15-20 goals this season (then improving next) and for him to turn into the player Killie need. His composure for his 2nd goal v Dundee Utd for me showed he has what it takes to get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireCocard Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 hours ago, cammy_boy said: Nah. A good penalty taker is vital. We'd be bemoaning it if he had a poor record from the spot. Exactly. That pen v Rangers last day of the season must have been some pressure & you always fancied him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Charlies PaPa said: Figures not comparable due to number of Brophy goals from the penalty spot. Absolutely laughable thing to say. Will we just shave about 70 goals off Shearers record too and make him out to be an average striker? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fletch said: Absolutely laughable thing to say. Will we just shave about 70 goals off Shearers record too and make him out to be an average striker? and Van Nistelroy, Raul, Christiano Ronaldo too while we are at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Dave1981 said: Another way and more straight to the point view is Brophy averages 10 goals a season. IMO that isnt good enough to make claims that he is our "no.1" striker and irreplaceable. I'd love for Kabamba to get 15-20 goals this season (then improving next) and for him to turn into the player Killie need. His composure for his 2nd goal v Dundee Utd for me showed he has what it takes to get there. if Kabamba got 15-20 goals, I doubt he'd still be here next season tbh...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bute-killiefan Posted August 31, 2020 Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 Build the team around him, extend his current deal. When we play to his strengths, he is unplayable 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 18 hours ago, Bigdaw said: And for a matter of interest; Greg Stewart 16 games = 8 - ave 0.50 Who Rangers have said they want to send out on loan or offload... I really hope if there is a slimmer of hope that we are making moves for him! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelo's Ashes Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 13 hours ago, bute-killiefan said: Build the team around him, extend his current deal. When we play to his strengths, he is unplayable Exactly this. He might be accused of being inconsistent but if he performs as well as he did against Celtic and Dundee United every three games, then he'll do for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killie1984 Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 19 hours ago, Beaker71 said: and Van Nistelroy, Raul, Christiano Ronaldo too while we are at it. And even worse Paul Wright 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Bullitt said: Who Rangers have said they want to send out on loan or offload... I really hope if there is a slimmer of hope that we are making moves for him! It would be great but can’t see it due to us signing mulumbu 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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