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27 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

Changing because their own jobs and politics threatened. The kids were just to be sacrificed otherwise. Let the scales fall from your eyes, chief, they’re awful. 

Once again its all SNP baaad, and ignore the fact that your beloved UK are using the same f**kin methodology WITHOUT the right of appeal for their examination results.

You honestly cannot see the truth in front of you for all your SNP baaad hats.

When a mistake is made.. snp baaad, when the mistake is corrected ... sno baaad cos they're only protecting their jobs.

Same pish day in day out from you.  Nothing of value beyond belittling the very people who actually do give a f**k about you, your kids, their kids and all our futures.  Your beloved party cannot even get the name of the party currently makong up the Scottish government right ffs.  They cannot, no sorry they refuse to stand against a Tory Brexit, or benefit caps and the other harmful policies of the Tories youd rather see in charge.

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9 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said:

Basically how any politics work.

Glad they've performed a u turn and glad there was plenty of discontent from SNP voters/members on it.

You'll always get folk who will never see wrong in their political party, I've said countless times Labour got away with murder for years up here as they were answerable to nobody and last thing I want is for that to happen again with the SNP.

Most of all, I'm happy that the kids should now get the grades they deserve.

as is any sensibly lmnded person   but apparently to our Uber Yoon its only about self preservation and to the Unionist press the Uturn is shameful!!!

Absolute clowns, as long as the mistake is rectified properly its a learning experience and they should be vilified for the mistake and commended for the correction.  If the mistakes become habitual,  they should get rightly vilified at the ballot box.

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1 minute ago, Squirrelhumper said:

There is a right to appeal in England this year.

it may well have changed recently then as an appeal was only poasible on a technicality.  Which was the norm up until this year here too.

And glad to hear it, because I don't expect their education body to have learned enough quickly enough to not make the same mistake the SQA have, but hopefully they can.

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19 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said:

There is a right to appeal in England this year.

The school can appeal if it can prove that the results do not reflect any improvements it has made recently. 

A pupil can only appeal their grade if they suspect bias against them or a technical error has been made.

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55 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said:

Glad they've performed a u turn and glad there was plenty of discontent from SNP voters/members on it.

 

Im glad too. Some uf the SNPs own MPs were fizzling about thus issue so it was hardly just a kneejerk reaction to public opinion.

IMO giving him the benefit of the doubt, Sweeny just got kinda blindsided by this. Just leaving the SQA to sort it out. What could possibly go wrong?

I await with interest this same s**t hitting the fan down south. 

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9 minutes ago, gdevoy said:

Im glad too. Some uf the SNPs own MPs were fizzling about thus issue so it was hardly just a kneejerk reaction to public opinion.

IMO giving him the benefit of the doubt, Sweeny just got kinda blindsided by this. Just leaving the SQA to sort it out. What could possibly go wrong?

I await with interest this same s**t hitting the fan down south. 

Won't, it'll be airbrushed from history while the media continue with the SNP are Satanic worshiping child eaters editorials.

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17 hours ago, gdevoy said:

Im glad too. Some uf the SNPs own MPs were fizzling about thus issue so it was hardly just a kneejerk reaction to public opinion.

IMO giving him the benefit of the doubt, Sweeny just got kinda blindsided by this. Just leaving the SQA to sort it out. What could possibly go wrong?

I await with interest this same s**t hitting the fan down south. 

No Swinney knew exactly what was about to happen and so did his boss. Once again they see the point the next day, just like the schools going back, when they get some political heat. 

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5 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

Couldn’t agree more.....

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more pointless and frankly delusional nonsense.  Smiffy just makes the same pishy "Just vote labour pleeeease, because... because... well union good and SNP baaad" statements you do.

There's never any alternative suggestions, just SNP baaad, you cannot even bring yourself to say your satisfied with the change of heart when a mistake is corrected,  its just more SNP baaad.

Your a broken record which less and less people want to listen to.  Try making suggestions on what you'd do differently, other than SNP baaaad.  Your mate Devoy has been hacked a dozen times om here what other suggestions he had and beyond blindly accepting overwmarking by a s**t load of teachers he has nothing, you have nothing positive to bring, all you do is trawl the same small minded interweb sites which agree with your forlock tugging parochial view of union good and anything else baaad

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31 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

No Swinney knew exactly what was about to happen and so did his boss. Once again they see the point the next day, just like the schools going back, when they get some political heat. 

I cant understand your determination to convince people this is a specific "SNP incompetent" issue when Westminster are making at least as big if not a bigger bollox of the whole thing.

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44 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

Couldn’t agree more.....

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Aren't nearly all political parties 'populist'? Does Smiffy think he has opened some Pandora's Box and shone a light on what is really going on? 

Surely the aim of all SNP opposition parties is to gain the populist vote. Scotland needs a more diverse political landscape but while the SNP make decisions that appeal to the populist voters in Scotland and Scottish Labour / Tories / Lib Dems / whatever, cannot due to their West Minster influence then there is going to be little change.

I personally cannot see where that catalyst for change from within the opposition parties in Scotland will come from but after 13yrs of dominance I would have thought there would have been a credible review and plan on how they might stage a recovery. 

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41 minutes ago, theboyjohnston said:

I personally cannot see where that catalyst for change from within the opposition parties in Scotland will come from but after 13yrs of dominance I would have thought there would have been a credible review and plan on how they might stage a recovery. 

I think the Better Together thing with the Tories, hollowed out not just support, but a lot of the intellect in Scottish unionist politics.  Labour, Tories, Liberals became a reactionary defensive force on the back foot against the SNP.  At same time as younger more vocal voters started backing YES, with older voters siding with NO.  Will be difficult in next 10 years, with Brexit being a turn off in Scotland and demographics tor the unionists.  Labour were solidly in power, in Scotland, for nearly 60 years, regardless of what Tories did in UK from 1955-2011.  WW2 drove Scots to more progressive 'Labour' style policies, 2014 did the same.  Aside from independence, it was the same style of 'progressive' Labour style policies that appeal to the young, but for a new century.

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14 minutes ago, RAG said:

I think the Better Together thing with the Tories, hollowed out not just support, but a lot of the intellect in Scottish unionist politics.  Labour, Tories, Liberals became a reactionary defensive force on the back foot against the SNP.  At same time as younger more vocal voters started backing YES, with older voters siding with NO.  Will be difficult in next 10 years, with Brexit being a turn off in Scotland and demographics tor the unionists.  Labour were solidly in power, in Scotland, for nearly 60 years, regardless of what Tories did in UK from 1955-2011.  WW2 drove Scots to more progressive 'Labour' style policies, 2014 did the same.  Aside from independence, it was the same style of 'progressive' Labour style policies that appeal to the young, but for a new century.

I have been aware of Scotland diverging politically from the rest of the UK for over 40 years. The Blair years of New Labour only served to hasten the process. Whether Labour or the SNP is more faux socialist is largely irrelevant. 

I believe that the Empire and 2 world wars drew us together but as that all slides off into the past the real cultural differences are beginning to become the driver now. BoJo just cant stand up and talk directly to a large portion of the Scottish population. He is just culturally on a different frequency.

So actually I see no future at all for unionism right now. The "look at how much money we give you" arguament us really counter productive.

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5 minutes ago, gdevoy said:

 The "look at how much money we give you" argument us really counter productive.

That sounds like a New Labour / Gordon Brown line.  That 45 quarters of consecutive growth, was over a decade ago and seems a bit dated now. 

Is 60 or 65 years Scotland's been diverged from the UK politically.  For last 40+ of those years, devolution was the settled will of Scottish people, going on the 40% rule in 1979 being a 'cheating' device against democracy.  For nearly 20 years devolution was denied by WM, but only came back stronger in 1997.  They say lightening doesn't strike twice, or is it, you have to be really stupid to do the same things repeatedly and expect different results?

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2 hours ago, gdevoy said:

I cant understand your determination to convince people this is a specific "SNP incompetent" issue when Westminster are making at least as big if not a bigger bollox of the whole thing.

Exactly do people not understand there is a pandemic of course there was going to be problems and hopefully for the students involved this will be resolved. The Scottish government has made mistakes like any other government but  Unionists opposition parties feel that the SG needs to be taken to task which is understandable it's all part of politics. Imo some of the arguements made against the SG seem to be petty just for the sake of it.

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4 hours ago, Beaker71 said:

more pointless and frankly delusional nonsense.  Smiffy just makes the same pishy "Just vote labour pleeeease, because... because... well union good and SNP baaad" statements you do.

There's never any alternative suggestions, just SNP baaad, you cannot even bring yourself to say your satisfied with the change of heart when a mistake is corrected,  its just more SNP baaad.

Your a broken record which less and less people want to listen to.  Try making suggestions on what you'd do differently, other than SNP baaaad.  Your mate Devoy has been hacked a dozen times om here what other suggestions he had and beyond blindly accepting overwmarking by a s**t load of teachers he has nothing, you have nothing positive to bring, all you do is trawl the same small minded interweb sites which agree with your forlock tugging parochial view of union good and anything else baaad

They defended it for a week and knew it was coming. That’s a “mistake” like Barnard Castle was a “mistake”. You were defending it as well until your masters saw the damage and gave in. Damage to kids....ok........Damage to SNP........not ok. 

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1 hour ago, EKX16 said:

Exactly do people not understand there is a pandemic of course there was going to be problems and hopefully for the students involved this will be resolved. The Scottish government has made mistakes like any other government but  Unionists opposition parties feel that the SG needs to be taken to task which is understandable it's all part of politics. Imo some of the arguements made against the SG seem to be petty just for the sake of it.

Poor show, using the pandemic for deflection. Maybe if Sturgeon wasn’t on telly every single day kidding on she’s the President, she could look at more than one area at a time. I’m sure Swinney had plenty of time, he just thought he could get away with it. 

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42 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

They defended it for a week and knew it was coming. That’s a “mistake” like Barnard Castle was a “mistake”. You were defending it as well until your masters saw the damage and gave in. Damage to kids....ok........Damage to SNP........not ok. 

I did not defend it, I explained the methodology and stand by my assertion that until a credible alternative is provided there isn't much else which could be done.

I also notice that as usual this is all SNP baaaad, but norhing on WM, your beloved Tory rulers using exactly the same methodology but WITHOUT the same level of appeal system.  So in effect a WORSE situation. 

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42 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

Poor show, using the pandemic for deflection. Maybe if Sturgeon wasn’t on telly every single day kidding on she’s the President, she could look at more than one area at a time. I’m sure Swinney had plenty of time, he just thought he could get away with it. 

away and literally s**te man.  Bitterness is seeping from every word.

The FM has been superb throughout this whole pandemic, miles ahead of every single politician on this island, and youre still giving it the Ultra Yoon pish.

You and Manky Jaiket are cut from the same cloth, and equally as delusional.

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All teachers estimates for downgraded pupils to stand, and all upgraded results to stand.

Imo this is a cop-out as those hard working students will get lumped on with others who didn't do as much.

Swinney shoildve ordered all downgraded qualifications to be reviewed based on evidence which can now be provided.   This i think without longer in time woildve been more accurately reflective of the students work.

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59 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

Poor show, using the pandemic for deflection. Maybe if Sturgeon wasn’t on telly every single day kidding on she’s the President, she could look at more than one area at a time. I’m sure Swinney had plenty of time, he just thought he could get away with it. 

Coronavirus has played a major part in what has happened not just in Scotland but worldwide. The question and answer from the media are asking questions that are not related to the pandemic. Nicola Sturgeon is the FM for Scotland and is rightly giving updates on what is happening. If the Labour party in Scotland were in power they would be doing exactly the same thing. It's hardly ideal and certainly mistakes have been made and it's up to the SG to put things right. The SG have done a great deal since coming to power but I don't expect the Unionists in the media to give credit to the SG. it's all about Snp bad no matter what they do. Anyway that's how i feel. 

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