Bonbon19 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 5:25 PM, piffer said: Seen a few people propose different sanctions. One that seemed reasonable to me was the next three games to be postponed in the interests of safety. Players to be hit with three game bans when Dons matches resume. They can appeal but will have to provide evidence they were conforming to the rules which allowed football to restart and government guidelines on social distancing etc. How does the postponement affect the Sky deal. It won’t be the first live TV game to be cancelled but these are different circumstances. Given the SPFL have already made payments to broadcaster over lost games last season will they need to compensate again Think Sky would be entirely within their rights to withhold the payment for this game. If so the amount should be deducted from any payments made to Aberdeen this season . Also if it was the Scottish govt that did postpone it the SPFL should be ashamed for not doing it quicker , their lack of leadership is breathtaking at times . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LH31 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bonbon19 said: Think Sky would be entirely within their rights to withhold the payment for this game. If so the amount should be deducted from any payments made to Aberdeen this season . Also if it was the Scottish govt that did postpone it the SPFL should be ashamed for not doing it quicker , their lack of leadership is breathtaking at times . Whilst I think the liability for the players actions lies with the club, the city itself has been instructed to lockdown again by the Government. There's no guarantee that this game would've went ahead regardless if the players hadn't tested positive. Showing the rearranged fixture at another time is the easiest solution - currently there's not alot of other football being shown so Sky should be able to schedule it. Edited August 9, 2020 by LH31 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 6 hours ago, LH31 said: Whilst I think the liability for the players actions lies with the club, the city itself has been instructed to lockdown again by the Government. There's no guarantee that this game would've went ahead regardless if the players hadn't tested positive. Showing the rearranged fixture at another time is the easiest solution - currently there's not alot of other football being shown so Sky should be able to schedule it. The game was to go ahead as the football club is supposed to be in it’s bubble. The players broke that bubble. If the government had planned to cancel it because of the local lockdown I’d like to think they’d have done it earlier 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Didn't hear Robinson but Tommy Wright did not come across well, on any topic. A typical Off the Ball episode with them all guffawing away about how funny they are being while there is tumbleweed going by the window... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncD Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 12:56 PM, Sandman396 said: I would not give St Johnstone 3 points and forfeit the game. Then Saints are missing out? Where do the points go? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncD Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) Players might simply have caught the virus in a shop. I don’t think the testing kits tell you where you caught it. If pubs are open then why should they not get same privilege as rest of the public? If pubs are that bad they shouldn’t be open full stop. Edited August 10, 2020 by DuncD -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme S Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 59 minutes ago, DuncD said: Players might simply have caught the virus in a shop. I don’t think the testing kits tell you where you caught it. If pubs are open then why should they not get same privilege as rest of the public? If pubs are that bad they shouldn’t be open full stop. The rules state that up to 8 people from 3 different households can meet indoors. So unless these guys stay together they will have clearly broken the rules. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncD Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Graeme S said: The rules state that up to 8 people from 3 different households can meet indoors. So unless these guys stay together they will have clearly broken the rules. Sitting at tables along from each other isn’t breaking rules. -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, DuncD said: Sitting at tables along from each other isn’t breaking rules. They are also governed by the rules put in place by the SPFL and Government in order to allow football to start up again. As far as I am aware they don't include going out on the piss with your mates. They should be suspended when the games they would miss are replayed. That way StJ haven't lost the advantage they would have had and Aberdeen still get punished. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman396 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 hours ago, DuncD said: Then Saints are missing out? Where do the points go? Points don't go anywhere. Game is played at another time. Aberdeen should be punished but i don't see why St Johnstone should benefit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanEwart Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Great column from Bill Leckie this morning, especially scathing about the "apology"- https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5908937/aberdeen-covid-eight-sacked-apology-joke-leckie/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 They, or more accurately their representatives who drafted the statement, couldn't be bothered to check whether rules are flaunted or flouted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme S Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 9 hours ago, DuncD said: Sitting at tables along from each other isn’t breaking rules. Absolute nonsense.You sound as bad as the ignorant players who apparently claimed because they all play for Aberdeen they thought they counted as 1 household. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 It now emerges that Boli Bolingoli fecked off to Spain before our game, didn't quarantine on return and didn't inform the club. He has since returned 2 negative tests. The SPFL/SFA and authorities MUST clamp down and make an example of him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) The SFA need to start handing out punishments now. Couple of games ban for a first offence. It increases if you are caught again. Clubs given warnings for first maybe second offences from there it’s either financial penalties or points deductions. Take action now while it’s only the top flight who are playing. Set an example to the rest of the divisions that they are serious about the rules and players breaching them Edited August 10, 2020 by piffer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfc_superteam Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/scottish-premiership/5913371/coronavirus-scotland-government-pause-football-bolingoli-aberdeen-breaches 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LH31 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 These idiots will get the fitba stopped again by the government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heynow2005 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Absolutely raging at the government saying this may lead to a pause in the game. No...how about dealing with the offending clubs and not punishing them all. Different story if this was Hamilton and St Mirren players....they need to grow some balls 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, heynow2005 said: Absolutely raging at the government saying this may lead to a pause in the game. No...how about dealing with the offending clubs and not punishing them all. Different story if this was Hamilton and St Mirren players....they need to grow some balls agree and disagree. If the clubs cannot control their employees to comply with the clear lines drawn up and agreed to by their governing bodies with the government to allow contact sport in the form of Football to restart, then the government should act. However the SPFL should be hammering the offending clubs, NOT the axorrish government. Where the Sottish givernment could act if it had the power to do so, is with foreigj nationals who have a work permit. If they cannot abide by the law their permit is revoked or changed to allow it to be revoked later. Similarly the Scottish or EU nationals who do not need a work permit should be dealt with individually through the courts. BUT, this is only possible if their is a law allowing such action. IMO the government have bent over backwards to try and support the football clubs here and the clubs amd players who have breaxhed the guidelines have f**ked it for everyone. Thats not the givernments fault its the individuals and clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heynow2005 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Beaker71 said: agree and disagree. If the clubs cannot control their employees to comply with the clear lines drawn up and agreed to by their governing bodies with the government to allow contact sport in the form of Football to restart, then the government should act. However the SPFL should be hammering the offending clubs, NOT the axorrish government. Where the Sottish givernment could act if it had the power to do so, is with foreigj nationals who have a work permit. If they cannot abide by the law their permit is revoked or changed to allow it to be revoked later. Similarly the Scottish or EU nationals who do not need a work permit should be dealt with individually through the courts. BUT, this is only possible if their is a law allowing such action. IMO the government have bent over backwards to try and support the football clubs here and the clubs amd players who have breaxhed the guidelines have f**ked it for everyone. Thats not the givernments fault its the individuals and clubs. Agreed SPFL should be accountable to tje government and clubs players accountable to SPFL. We cant punish the majority for the indiscretions of a few. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heynow2005 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Aberdeen, Celtic midweek games off and Celtic v Aberdeen off at the weekend Folk on twitter saying our game should be off coz the guy played the last 5...pfft 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Not football this time but SIX of Hull's rugby league squad have just tested positive as well as 2 coaches.with a ninth test inconclusive. Five of the players faced Salford last Sunday. Training has been cancelled and the positive players are now in a 10day isolation period. Rules have been changed in the short term to remove scrums from the game but any tackles involving 2 or more defenders is considered 'a risk'. Also see that any player involved in "lengthy contact" with an infected player will also require to self-isolate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killieblues Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 There has to be club punishment for these breaches because games being postponed is only going to benefit teams that have larger squads when the games are re-arranged into an already tight schedule. I wouldn't imagine St Mirren and Hamilton have massive squads but now find themselves having a re-arranged game against Celtic (who definitely have a big squad) and Aberdeen (who probably have a big enough squad). It's gaining an advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanEwart Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Another good article from Bill Leckie this morning- https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5918319/celtic-bolingoli-aberdeen-eight-halfwits-football-stopped-leckie/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 "The SPFL have opened disciplinary proceedings against Aberdeen and Celtic for alleged Covid-19 breaches. Eight Aberdeen players and Celtic's Boli Bolingoli have also been charged by the Scottish FA" (BBC) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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