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On 8/7/2020 at 5:25 PM, piffer said:

Seen a few people propose different sanctions. One that seemed reasonable to me was the next three games to be postponed in the interests of safety. Players to be hit with three game bans when Dons matches resume. They can appeal but will have to provide evidence they were conforming to the rules which allowed football to restart and government guidelines on social distancing etc. 
 

How does the postponement affect the Sky deal. It won’t be the first live TV game to be cancelled but these are different circumstances. Given the SPFL have already made payments to broadcaster over lost games last season will they need to compensate again

Think Sky would be entirely within their rights to withhold the payment for this game. If so the amount should be deducted from any payments made to  Aberdeen this season . 

Also if it was the Scottish govt that did postpone it the SPFL should be ashamed for not doing it quicker , their lack of leadership is breathtaking at times .

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2 hours ago, Bonbon19 said:

Think Sky would be entirely within their rights to withhold the payment for this game. If so the amount should be deducted from any payments made to  Aberdeen this season . 

Also if it was the Scottish govt that did postpone it the SPFL should be ashamed for not doing it quicker , their lack of leadership is breathtaking at times .

Whilst I think the liability for the players actions lies with the club, the city itself has been instructed to lockdown again by the Government. There's no guarantee that this game would've went ahead regardless if the players hadn't tested positive. 

Showing the rearranged fixture at another time is the easiest solution - currently there's not alot of other football being shown so Sky should be able to schedule it. 

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6 hours ago, LH31 said:

Whilst I think the liability for the players actions lies with the club, the city itself has been instructed to lockdown again by the Government. There's no guarantee that this game would've went ahead regardless if the players hadn't tested positive. 

Showing the rearranged fixture at another time is the easiest solution - currently there's not alot of other football being shown so Sky should be able to schedule it. 

The game was to go ahead as the football club is supposed to be in it’s bubble. The players broke that bubble. If the government had planned to cancel it because of the local lockdown I’d like to think they’d have done it earlier 

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Players might simply have caught the virus in a shop. I don’t think the testing kits tell you where you caught it. If pubs are open then why should they not get same privilege as rest of the public? If pubs are that bad they shouldn’t be open full stop. 

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59 minutes ago, DuncD said:

Players might simply have caught the virus in a shop. I don’t think the testing kits tell you where you caught it. If pubs are open then why should they not get same privilege as rest of the public? If pubs are that bad they shouldn’t be open full stop. 

The rules state that up to 8 people from 3 different households can meet indoors. So unless these guys stay together they will have clearly broken the rules. 

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49 minutes ago, DuncD said:

Sitting at tables along from each other isn’t breaking rules. 

They are also governed by the rules put in place by the SPFL and Government in order to allow football to start up again.  As far as I am aware they don't include going out on the piss with your mates.

 

They should be suspended when the games they would miss are replayed.  That way StJ haven't lost the advantage they would have had and Aberdeen still get punished.

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The SFA need to start handing out punishments now. Couple of games ban for a first offence. It increases if you are caught again. Clubs given warnings for first maybe second offences from there it’s either financial penalties or points deductions.

Take action now while it’s only the top flight who are playing. Set an example to the rest of the divisions that they are serious about the rules and players breaching them

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52 minutes ago, heynow2005 said:

Absolutely raging at the government saying this may lead to a pause in the game. No...how about dealing with the offending clubs and not punishing them all. Different story if this was Hamilton and St Mirren players....they need to grow some balls 

agree and disagree.  If the clubs cannot control their employees to comply with the clear lines drawn up and agreed to by their governing bodies with the government to allow contact sport in the form of Football to restart, then the government should act.

However the SPFL should be hammering the offending clubs, NOT the axorrish government. 

Where the Sottish givernment could act if it had the power to do so, is with foreigj nationals who have a work permit.   If they cannot abide by the law their permit is revoked or changed to allow it to be revoked later.  Similarly the Scottish or EU nationals who do not need a work permit should be dealt with individually through the courts.  BUT, this is only possible if their is a law allowing such action.

IMO the government have bent over backwards to try and support the football clubs here and the clubs amd players who have breaxhed the guidelines have f**ked it for everyone.   Thats not the givernments fault its the individuals and clubs.

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1 hour ago, Beaker71 said:

agree and disagree.  If the clubs cannot control their employees to comply with the clear lines drawn up and agreed to by their governing bodies with the government to allow contact sport in the form of Football to restart, then the government should act.

However the SPFL should be hammering the offending clubs, NOT the axorrish government. 

Where the Sottish givernment could act if it had the power to do so, is with foreigj nationals who have a work permit.   If they cannot abide by the law their permit is revoked or changed to allow it to be revoked later.  Similarly the Scottish or EU nationals who do not need a work permit should be dealt with individually through the courts.  BUT, this is only possible if their is a law allowing such action.

IMO the government have bent over backwards to try and support the football clubs here and the clubs amd players who have breaxhed the guidelines have f**ked it for everyone.   Thats not the givernments fault its the individuals and clubs.

Agreed SPFL should be accountable to tje government and clubs players accountable to SPFL. We cant punish the majority for the indiscretions of a few. 

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Not football this time but SIX of Hull's rugby league squad have just tested positive as well as 2 coaches.with a ninth test inconclusive.  Five of the players faced Salford last Sunday.

Training has been cancelled and the positive players are now in a 10day isolation period.

Rules have been changed in the short term to remove scrums from the game but any tackles involving 2 or more defenders is considered 'a risk'.

Also see that any player involved in "lengthy contact" with an infected player will also require to self-isolate.

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There has to be club punishment for these breaches because games being postponed is only going to benefit teams that have larger squads when the games are re-arranged into an already tight schedule. I wouldn't imagine St Mirren and Hamilton have massive squads but now find themselves having a re-arranged game against Celtic (who definitely have a big squad) and Aberdeen (who probably have a big enough squad).

It's gaining an advantage.

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