Squirrelhumper Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 11 hours ago, bute-killiefan said: If he's fit I'd put him in. Broadfoot is a certainty to give away a penalty on Sunday if he plays 11 hours ago, Pelesboots said: Or get sent off Probably both. Going a full season with Broadfoot as first choice was giving me the fear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, historyman said: Seems to have turned it around? You don’t get any league points for signing players. The number of games we have won under AD remains the same as it did before we made this signing. Perhaps it would be more sensible to wait a few weeks to see if the record improves. Agreed, signings have looked good on paper but so did many of Jigs. As it stands, both Dyer and Jig's records as manager are/were rotten. Can only support Dyer as he's boss and hope that record improves. If not we're in for a long, long season as the season finishing early did us a massive turn. Nothing would make me happier than seeing him succeed but don't think we can rewrite history just yet based on a few signings and a loss on the opening day, albeit we played well. Still need more creativity. Edited August 7, 2020 by Squirrelhumper 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfc_superteam Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 50 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Agreed, signings have looked good on paper but so did many of Jigs. As it stands, both Dyer and Jig's records as manager are/were rotten. Can only support Dyer as he's boss and hope that record improves. If not we're in for a long, long season as the season finishing early did us a massive turn. Nothing would make me happier than seeing him succeed but don't think we can rewrite history just yet based on a few signings and a loss on the opening day, albeit we played well. Still need more creativity. The pressure will inevitably come if we don't pick up a win in either Ross County or St Johnstone games. At least we are showing signs of playing well. The difference between Locke, jig and Dyer is that we can see performances in an Alex Dyer team. As we saw in Mixu's season which didn't start off great in terms of performance, he eventually the performances turned into results. It wasn't just the defeats but the manner of the defeats that was the issue. On the flip side I heard a stat saying we only won 3 games away last season, two of which was against Hearts, can't think who the other one was against ? That is another stat that needs to change! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, kfc_superteam said: On the flip side I heard a stat saying we only won 3 games away last season, two of which was against Hearts, can't think who the other one was against ? 1-0 at St Johnstone in August. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, kfc_superteam said: The pressure will inevitably come if we don't pick up a win in either Ross County or St Johnstone games. At least we are showing signs of playing well. The difference between Locke, jig and Dyer is that we can see performances in an Alex Dyer team. As we saw in Mixu's season which didn't start off great in terms of performance, he eventually the performances turned into results. It wasn't just the defeats but the manner of the defeats that was the issue. On the flip side I heard a stat saying we only won 3 games away last season, two of which was against Hearts, can't think who the other one was against ? That is another stat that needs to change! St Johnstone First win of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdaw Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Killie Conman said: Solid and physical Like Broadfoot , Its defenders with brains we need . Last week as a few on here predicted Broadfoot tends to be out of position and always chasing a forward. I can't say i remember the guy as standing out for Hearts , They did let in loads of goals last season, But perhaps that was more down toa slow Berra.....Anyway good to see they realised we still needed more defensive options..... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 42 minutes ago, kfc_superteam said: On the flip side I heard a stat saying we only won 3 games away last season, two of which was against Hearts, can't think who the other one was against ? That is another stat that needs to change! Aye and two of them were with Allessio as boss! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, historyman said: Seems to have turned it around? You don’t get any league points for signing players. The number of games we have won under AD remains the same as it did before we made this signing. Perhaps it would be more sensible to wait a few weeks to see if the record improves. Never a positive word to say. The quality of players Fowler has managed to help bring in seem to be of a very decent level. It's up to them to perform and for Dyer to get the best out of them! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanerba'Tam Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, historyman said: Seems to have turned it around? You don’t get any league points for signing players. The number of games we have won under AD remains the same as it did before we made this signing. Perhaps it would be more sensible to wait a few weeks to see if the record improves. Agree entirely, think we have the players but it’s the game management that is the main concern. For example against Hibs great supply of crosses and using long ball into the box but only Kabamba with any height up front who was winning very little in the air. Should have thrown on Whitehall at HT to support him and take advantage of these balls into the box with GK dropping off the front two. Greg is a good ball striker as opposed to Rory and may have given us more chances. Our best chance was an almost OG!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortie Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 good luck big fella 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 See this creative no 10.......I don’t think you should hold your breath. It doesn’t fit Dyer’s system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Aye and two of them were with Allessio as boss! Shh, you'll have the forum mafia saying we were a disgrace in 5th place 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, Skora11 said: Never a positive word to say. The quality of players Fowler has managed to help bring in seem to be of a very decent level. It's up to them to perform and for Dyer to get the best out of them! And the same nonsense from you. Just tell me one thing in my post that is negative.. It is simply the truth and common sense 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyhigh Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Dyer might surprise us all and play 3 at the back. We're all suggesting Broadfoot will drop out but he's def one of the ones who'd run through brick walls for Dyer and that's bound to be mutual. Perhaps KB realises he needs to be used sparingly now... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 The back four is looking pretty good. Arguably our best player in it and three that were highly regarded by their own fans. Plenty of character in there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Probably both. Broadfoot to give away a penalty and get red card? Sounds like the next best thing to free money 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, historyman said: And the same nonsense from you. Just tell me one thing in my post that is negative.. It is simply the truth and common sense What has Fowler got to do with how the player then performs on the pitch? Fowler has quite clearly recruited well and in area's that we required. Nearly all players signed had performed well at their previous clubs and seemed to have decent reviews from fans of their previous clubs. It is now up to them to perform and for Dyer to get the best out of them. McGowan, Haunstrup, Dikamona, Pinnock and Whitehall all seemed to have been considered good players from their previous fans which is quite rare to see on twitter. All a good age as well that if they perform well the club could see a decent return. Add that to Tshibola returning and getting in a couple of decent goalkeepers it's been a very positive window. The final piece of the puzzle could be recruiting that someone that has that something special. Like a Stewart or Mulumbu etc. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 hours ago, historyman said: Seems to have turned it around? You don’t get any league points for signing players. The number of games we have won under AD remains the same as it did before we made this signing. Perhaps it would be more sensible to wait a few weeks to see if the record improves. Think you’ve missed the point here. To put it into simple terms, he’s addressed our weak areas on the park with a good calibre of player. In comparison to signing duds like Sow and Jackson. Hope that clears that up. It’s upto AD to make them gel/click. JF has done a good job, that’s who I’m talking about. Not AD and not results on the park. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Skora11 said: What has Fowler got to do with how the player then performs on the pitch? Fowler has quite clearly recruited well and in area's that we required. Nearly all players signed had performed well at their previous clubs and seemed to have decent reviews from fans of their previous clubs. It is now up to them to perform and for Dyer to get the best out of them. McGowan, Haunstrup, Dikamona, Pinnock and Whitehall all seemed to have been considered good players from their previous fans which is quite rare to see on twitter. All a good age as well that if they perform well the club could see a decent return. Add that to Tshibola returning and getting in a couple of decent goalkeepers it's been a very positive window. The final piece of the puzzle could be recruiting that someone that has that something special. Like a Stewart or Mulumbu etc. This is what I was meaning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 We have recruited in all of the positions that we all agreed were essential to strengthen. Some of us still want a creative midfielder, some of us still want a box-to-box player, some of us still want another wide player. We are definitely not going to be getting three more players though. Speaking personally, the spark to make something happen at the attacking end is absent and we are over-reliant on Chris Burke who is wonderful but we cant place the entire burden on his shoulders. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxyboy Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 Kiltie should be developed as the number 10, think our full backs give us a lot going forward which allows for more defensive minded midfielders, that being said I'd like to see tish get forward more he's a big guy late runs from the middle would cause bother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Skora11 said: What has Fowler got to do with how the player then performs on the pitch? Fowler has quite clearly recruited well and in area's that we required. Nearly all players signed had performed well at their previous clubs and seemed to have decent reviews from fans of their previous clubs. It is now up to them to perform and for Dyer to get the best out of them. McGowan, Haunstrup, Dikamona, Pinnock and Whitehall all seemed to have been considered good players from their previous fans which is quite rare to see on twitter. All a good age as well that if they perform well the club could see a decent return. Add that to Tshibola returning and getting in a couple of decent goalkeepers it's been a very positive window. The final piece of the puzzle could be recruiting that someone that has that something special. Like a Stewart or Mulumbu etc. If how the players perform on the pitch has nothing to do with Fowler then he has the safest job in football. What you are saying is that if they perform well then its great job Jamie but if they perform badly then Dyer is to blame. How they performed last year at their previous clubs no longer matters. it is what they do for Killie this season that counts. If the story is good then Fowler and Dyer can take the credit, if it's not then it's not a case of the manager only to blame. So far all I have seen from the new signings is one game with a massive howler from the new keeper and a very good performance from Tshibola. That's way too early to say that 'Fowler has turned it round' - nor Dyer for that matter. Let's see how things are going after 11 games or so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 If we get that Stewart/Mulumbu player we will have the best squad weve had for years. Including the Steve Clarke era -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ngonge88 said: If we get that Stewart/Mulumbu player we will have the best squad weve had for years. Including the Steve Clarke era Lay off the crack pipe lad. No Bachmann, SOD, Greg Taylor or Boyd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggy Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Agreed, signings have looked good on paper but so did many of Jigs. As it stands, both Dyer and Jig's records as manager are/were rotten. Can only support Dyer as he's boss and hope that record improves. If not we're in for a long, long season as the season finishing early did us a massive turn. Nothing would make me happier than seeing him succeed but don't think we can rewrite history just yet based on a few signings and a loss on the opening day, albeit we played well. Still need more creativity. Finally. A fair and well balanced post from humper. Let us all rejoice 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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