Killie71 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Removing the Queen as head of state and becoming a Republic. The first of many probably. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, Killie71 said: Removing the Queen as head of state and becoming a Republic. The first of many probably. Well done Barbados, a pointless thing for a modern world, where someone whose inbred ancestors were better a fighting than others, is celebrated and treated as if they're inherently better then you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, Beaker71 said: Well done Barbados, a pointless thing for a modern world, where someone whose inbred ancestors were better a fighting than others, is celebrated and treated as if they're inherently better then you. I fully agree but that aint gonna go down well in some quarters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, gdevoy said: I fully agree but that aint gonna go down well in some quarters. imagine the seethe in every OO lodge in the land, I'd pay money to see that unfold. No Union and No Queen, their tiny brained, beer sodden heads would implode with anger and despair. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKX16 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 This is just the start more to follow. It's been a long time coming but great news all the same. One country having control over another is mind boggling. Roll on Independence and a Scottish Republic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, EKX16 said: This is just the start more to follow. It's been a long time coming but great news all the same. One country having control over another is mind boggling. Roll on Independence and a Scottish Republic. As long as we don't call it the Democratic Republic of Scotland or DROS for short! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKX16 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Beaker71 said: As long as we don't call it the Democratic Republic of Scotland or DROS for short! Brilliant 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 One thing at a time. It would only lose yes votes to suggest becoming an independent republic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Prahakillie said: One thing at a time. It would only lose yes votes to suggest becoming an independent republic. That is what I was getting at. The SNP need to focus on what unites the independence vote and becoming a republic is not that many people's top priority. On here maybe but trust me, out there in the land of bus passes and Orange Order members you would get lynched for even asking "what is the point if Betty Battenburg". Keeping everyone onside is what politics is all about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheviotstag Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, gdevoy said: That is what I was getting at. The SNP need to focus on what unites the independence vote and becoming a republic is not that many people's top priority. On here maybe but trust me, out there in the land of bus passes and Orange Order members you would get lynched for even asking "what is the point if Betty Battenburg". Keeping everyone onside is what politics is all about. Agree. Secure independence first and the future of the monarchy would be a discussion for further down the track 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plunkit Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 McLelland Drive will be next. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Prahakillie said: One thing at a time. It would only lose yes votes to suggest becoming an independent republic. no one is actually suggesting this, this is all a bit of banter. Getting rid of the monarchy will come later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKX16 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 The people living in Scotland will decide if they still want the Queen or not but that will be after Independence. Personally I would go with a Republic but it will be put to a vote at sometime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I wonder if a certain Alistair Darling still believes in a Workers Republic...? ...or like so many Labour "socialist" brethren, gave up wee things like principles when money and ermine were on offer? btw, that’s John Maclean on the banner, the Socialist thinker and anti-war activist who advocated a revolution to create an independent Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Scooter said: I wonder if a certain Alistair Darling still believes in a Workers Republic...? ...or like so many Labour "socialist" brethren, gave up wee things like principles when money and ermine were on offer? btw, that’s John Maclean on the banner, the Socialist thinker and anti-war activist who advocated a revolution to create an independent Scotland. That'll be around the time the absolute wankpiece darling said Scotland couldn't be independent and they'd (notice theyd and not we) would be eating out of bins and fighting in the streets over the kast tin of food. Horrible horrible sell out w****r. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Beaker71 said: That'll be around the time the absolute wankpiece darling said Scotland couldn't be independent and they'd (notice theyd and not we) would be eating out of bins and fighting in the streets over the kast tin of food. Horrible horrible sell out w****r. I notice a recurring theme here. "You think things are s**t now, just wait till you are independent". Well that arguament will get blown out of the water by Dom's EU no deal plan. Austerity on steroids fir the peasants I'm afraid. Then there us the, "they wont let you into the EU because of your deficit" arguament. Aye right! If the EU get the opportunity to stick it right up the Brexuteers of Little Britain by admitting a country which had been undemocratucally pulled out they will grab it. Ways if massaging the figures will be found. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, gdevoy said:Ways if massaging the figures will be found. This is only needed if you believe the GERS figures represent anything like reality. remember the bit Scotland gets and then spends is all balanced. It’s the bits that WM spends and then assign to us which they then misrepresent as a deficit and massage the numbers trying to tell us that we create 60% of the UKs deficit with 8.9% of the population. I think you’ll find in other threads many many examples of how spend will be different and this seasonally adjusted deficit mostly and I do say mostly vanishes. Examples such as not spending 500m on HS2, Billions if extra taxes from food and drinks exports which are counted as English as they leave from Dover, Not spending 700m on the revamp of WM, a 1b spend on defence instead of the supposed 3.5b ‘assigned’ to us, etc. Just those numbers alone take up about 50% of the paper deficit. But this is about Barbados taking the bold step of being a republic, not the battle for independence we have on just now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 When the Queen goes get the remainder of the Royal Family in the bin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon19 Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Fudger said: When the Queen goes get the remainder of the Royal Family in the bin. Why wait that long ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bonbon19 said: Why wait that long ? Fair point. I'm no monarchist, however I do think the Queen has done a remarkable job and comes from a time where Royalty and Monarchy had a place so she should be allowed to see it out. Her kin are not up to the task and their position is no longer relevant IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 I expect a lot of Commonwealth countries will become republics once the Queen dies. Just hanging on out of respect, I think. The Commonwealth itself might be in question too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) The Queen is the last icon of an era which has long gone. Like steam trains and ten shilling notes. Still in place out of respect. When she goes I agree with skygid.The traditionalists will try to install a successor but it will be a catalyst for change. Edited September 21, 2020 by gdevoy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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