killiebythesea Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Interesting that the Celtic v Hibs fixture moved at Celtics request even though Hibs refused the original request and weren't consulted when it was subsequently moved. We had requested the Livingston game was moved but were knocked back because Livingston refused to agree to the switch even though we had a valid reason for the request. I wonder what the SPFL excuse is for allowing the switch. Celtic bias? Surely not! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Home team get more of a say? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipkis Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 It would appear to be blatant double standards by the SPFL. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, piffer said: Home team get more of a say? Seems that is the reason given , and was same reason given at time Livingston would not agree to our request ..saying the home team can have the final say ..bit of a cop out by SPFL though again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Scouser2 said: Seems that is the reason given , and was same reason given at time Livingston would not agree to our request ..saying the home team can have the final say ..bit of a cop out by SPFL though again I guess we'll find out next time we attempt to change the date of a home fixture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_dug Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Won't be to do with European fixtures anyway.? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenwick Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 even better when its for a wee rest after old firm game so they can swan of to dubai for training camp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie billies pal Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 The way they are playing they’d better get straight on a plane after they play the Hun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Ipkis said: It would appear to be blatant double standards by the SPFL. Why the f**k are people red carding this? Its as blatant as you get, we ask, get told no, cleric ask get told no and the SPFL give them what they want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 If the home team has more of a say in this decision then it would state that in the rules. The fact that this hasn’t been mentioned by the SPFL would suggest to me that it isn’t in the rules and I don’t see why it should be anyway as it takes two teams to play a match. Therefore, It’s hard not to come to the conclusion that it’s just another example of the governing bodies favouring the Old Firm over the rest. Business as usual really. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrogate Peter Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Surely the home team issue would only arise if there were crowds, police, refreshments etc. to organise? Otherwise what difference does it make? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkmus Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 These are the same guys who gave them the go ahead to stop the season for a friendly whenever they want so no real surprise here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, historyman said: If the home team has more of a say in this decision then it would state that in the rules. The fact that this hasn’t been mentioned by the SPFL would suggest to me that it isn’t in the rules.... There’s only one way to be sure which is to check the rules! This is the closest you will find: ”G3 Subject to Rule C42, the Board shall have discretion to schedule and to reschedule the date, time and/or venue of any Official Match as it shall consider appropriate.” Edited November 30, 2020 by skygod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrogate Peter Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, skygod said: There’s only one to be sure which is to check the rules! This is the closest you will find: ”G3 Subject to Rule C42, the Board shall have discretion to schedule and to reschedule the date, time and/or venue of any Official Match as it shall consider appropriate.” Having the power to do it is one thing. Doing it without (apparently) any reference at all to one of the teams just seems wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, skygod said: There’s only one way to be sure which is to check the rules! This is the closest you will find: ”G3 Subject to Rule C42, the Board shall have discretion to schedule and to reschedule the date, time and/or venue of any Official Match as it shall consider appropriate.” So, quite simply they agreed to Celtic’s request to a change of date but not ours. There’s your fairness and equality right there. And not even informing Hibs is just totally disrespectful. Edited November 30, 2020 by historyman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 "... in a statement, SPFL fixture chief Blair said: 'Discussions between Celtic FC and Hibernian FC had taken place about the Celtic v Hibernian league match originally scheduled for Saturday January 9th. 'Celtic wished to move the fixture from its scheduled time, to another slot that weekend. When the two clubs could not reach agreement, I received a request from Celtic FC to move their home match against Hibernian FC to Monday January 11th. 'I took the request to the SPFL board, noting that Hibernian FC objected to the move. 'However, as the proposed date change fell within the same Friday - Monday fixture slot, and was made by the home club, I informed the SPFL board that my intention was to agree to the request. 'As has been the case for the past 22 years, SPFL policy, where two clubs do not agree about a fixture change and in the absence of any other relevant factor, is to favour the home club. 'Both Celtic FC and Hibernian FC were advised of the change more than an hour before the decision was made public, with no adverse comment being received from Hibernian FC ahead of publication.' ” (Glasgow Live) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepie Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 We can’t get our game moved a day due to the whole squad protecting themselves from a virus but happy to meet a request to allow a team to go on holiday. Sums up Scottish football right now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel4 Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 We should submits requests for all our home games against Aberdeen and Ross County to be played at 0900 on a Monday morning then. If we know that we will be favoured and no thought will be given to them or their travel then it makes sense to use it to our advantage 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Quote 'As has been the case for the past 22 years, SPFL policy, where two clubs do not agree about a fixture change and in the absence of any other relevant factor, is to favour the home club. A more sensible policy would be if the clubs do not agree then do not allow the fixture change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 hours ago, skygod said: "... in a statement, SPFL fixture chief Blair said: 'Discussions between Celtic FC and Hibernian FC had taken place about the Celtic v Hibernian league match originally scheduled for Saturday January 9th. 'Celtic wished to move the fixture from its scheduled time, to another slot that weekend. When the two clubs could not reach agreement, I received a request from Celtic FC to move their home match against Hibernian FC to Monday January 11th. 'I took the request to the SPFL board, noting that Hibernian FC objected to the move. 'However, as the proposed date change fell within the same Friday - Monday fixture slot, and was made by the home club, I informed the SPFL board that my intention was to agree to the request. 'As has been the case for the past 22 years, SPFL policy, where two clubs do not agree about a fixture change and in the absence of any other relevant factor, is to favour the home club. 'Both Celtic FC and Hibernian FC were advised of the change more than an hour before the decision was made public, with no adverse comment being received from Hibernian FC ahead of publication.' ” (Glasgow Live) That’s not what happened according to Leanne Dempster. As was pointed out, our request had more merit yet was rejected but this one was accepted. You can only wonder why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Since when was Friday or especially Monday a normal fixture slot in the Scottish football calendar anyway? There have been some TV games on occasion but it is not a normal time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigel4 Posted December 1, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Taken from the Scottish Government’s website - “Going on holiday, including abroad, is not a reasonable excuse to leave a level 3 or 4 area. If it has been announced that your local authority area is about to move into either Level 3 or 4 please do not then travel overseas for non-essential reasons such as a holiday. Those who are already overseas can continue with their holiday or travel as planned.” If Glasgow is still Tier 3 or 4 how can Celtic going to Dubai for a training camp be classed as essential?? It’s outrageous that they are being allowed to do this 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTumnus Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Quote Celtic wished to move the fixture from its scheduled time, to another slot that weekend. Monday is the weekend???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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