bute-killiefan Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Who are people emailing to show support for Dyer over this? I feel it's extremely important that a good number of us do Club Secretary, SLO or someone else? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 2020 folks a year of so many lows that will never be forgotten or forgiven and this subhuman deservers all that's coming to him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Things not going too fantastic on the park right now but there is absolutely no place fir this nonsense anywhere near the club I have supported, heart and soul, for nearly 60 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwai Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 45 minutes ago, Polo said: Criticism is justified, but too many posts telling him to 'f*ck off' or calling him a 'c*nt' for my liking. Agreed. Football fans are fickle, and although things aren't going well on the pitch for him as manager, Alex deserves to be treated with respect. The racist abuse could well have been from one of our own (every club has their idiots). Personally I wouldn't be surprised if it was from a sevco fan; it seems more their level. However if it IS from a Killie fan, that would be especially disappointing and monumentally stupid given Alex was (along with black players like Mulumbu, Tshibola and Ndjoli) an integral part of our recent success under Steve Clarke. As someone said, AD is still our manager, and whatever team he puts out gets my full support. However, I like many others have concerns about results and performances, and I wonder if a change of manager would do us good. If we do change the manager, I'm sure Alex will rightly be thanked for everything he has done for this club and he will be made very welcome to come back anytime. Unlike whoever wrote that letter - they are actively attempting to harm our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyjohnston Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Sorry that Alex Dyer has had to experience this abuse and ashamed that it is likely from someone connected to the club I love. Hopefully justice will prevail and the sleazebag is publicly humiliated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetfitter Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Killieboykfc said: Decided to take a while before making a post about this because I was so raging but Jesus f**king Christ. Is that what it’s come to now? Sending racist abuse to a guy who works tirelessly for us and who has been a part of our most successful coaching team in recent times? Genuinely disgusted by this and hope the club take the f**king arsehole that sent it the full way. I’ve also seen a few folk say things like “aw well that will be Dyer the manager for the next while now” insinuating that the club won’t sack him because of this and I just want to say, if that is genuinely the first thought that comes to your head about this then you seriously need to take a good look at yourself. Football goes out the window in times like this, this is a guy being abused for the colour of his skin. f**k the football. Its a shame that a guy who has had several happy memories at our club will now always remember this absolute f**king s**tshow. Absolutely gutted. Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetfitter Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Stuart said: Playing the Devils Advocate but hope this letter isn’t convenient Don't ever play the Devil's Advocate when racism is the issue. What are you suggesting here. The use of the word convenient implies purpose. What are you suggesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Mogwai said: The racist abuse could well have been from one of our own (every club has their idiots). Personally I wouldn't be surprised if it was from a sevco fan; it seems more their level. Personally I think that is a complete load of rubbish and thinking along those lines makes us look even worse. The incident is shameful enough for the reputation of the club without claiming a big boy did it and ran away. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Let’s let an investigation take place and wait until the facts come out before working ourselves into a tizzy about who said what and why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Mogwai said: However if it IS from a Killie fan, that would be especially disappointing and monumentally stupid given Alex was (along with black players like Mulumbu, Tshibola and Ndjoli) an integral part of our recent success under Steve Clarke. It is monumentally stupid under any circumstances. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Zorro said: Let’s let an investigation take place and wait until the facts come out before working ourselves into a tizzy about who said what and why. Very sensible. It's up to the police now to deal with this using the laws of the land. I hope that the perpetrator is caught and dealt with accordingly and that full facts emerge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Promoting the idea that it’s “maybe not even a Killie fan” is a piece of nonsense as no one has a clue and the probability is that it is. Maybe we could support him by pledging we will never again use the most common racial slur, black bastard, again, no matter what the context. I wonder if any of the outraged on here have defended it in past debates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Y Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: Promoting the idea that it’s “maybe not even a Killie fan” is a piece of nonsense as no one has a clue and the probability is that it is. Maybe we could support him by pledging we will never again use the most common racial slur, black bastard, again, no matter what the context. I wonder if any of the outraged on here have defended it in past debates. I find your opportunism distasteful and deflecting from the real issue here is a disgrace! I hope you will reconsider and choose to delete your irrelevant post! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipkis Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 I don't think it is irrelevant. If I took a black friend to a Killie game I'd cringe at that lyric. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 ...and so the thread goes off topic. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGHT and BLUE Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 One thing's for sure..... the board won't sack him any time soon. NO I'm not condoning ANY racist boll*x, even our fans references to Ayr United Coal Miners !! - but, our manager's position has now been strengthened.... -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Y Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 39 minutes ago, Prahakillie said: ...and so the thread goes off topic. ? Precisely my point...because, sadly, we have certain people on here who look for any opportunity to take centre stage and make the topic about them. Disgraceful! -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Y Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Ipkis said: I don't think it is irrelevant. If I took a black friend to a Killie game I'd cringe at that lyric. It's irrelevant because the poster has used this terrible and extremely sensitive issue to peddle his own agenda and make himself the centre of attention. Something I find abhorrent given the severity of the REAL issue! In case you haven't realised it, there are no supporters at games! Edited December 29, 2020 by Mister Y 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mclean07 Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Mister Y said: I find your opportunism distasteful and deflecting from the real issue here is a disgrace! I hope you will reconsider and choose to delete your irrelevant post! I have absolutely no intention of deleting it. You are right that I am taking the opportunity to highlight the hypocrisy of anyone who is rightly outraged by any form of racism but happy to excuse the singing of the most common racial slur black people have suffered from in this country. How anyone against racism can utter the words in any context is abhorrent. But just like the worst of the knuckle draggers in the Old Scum, some regard it as “ wur Ayrshire heritage”. I’ve made my point and I stick by it. Edited December 29, 2020 by Mclean07 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Y Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 And I've made my point and I stick by it. -5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Prahakillie said: ...and so the thread goes off topic. ? It hasn’t. It’s just uncomfortable for some “fans”. I would love to hear what Alex Dyer would think about it after seeing his commitment to BLM. Now let’s sweep it under the carpet and get on with the general condemnations without looking at ourselves. That’s much more comfortable. -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 It wouldn’t be like a fans’ forum to descend into over-reaction and generalisation would it??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 I certainly think it’s made any change in management very problematic, no matter the logic of results. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 38 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: Promoting the idea that it’s “maybe not even a Killie fan” is a piece of nonsense as no one has a clue and the probability is that it is. Maybe we could support him by pledging we will never again use the most common racial slur, black bastard, again, no matter what the context. I wonder if any of the outraged on here have defended it in past debates. Took you longer than expected.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beaker71 Posted December 29, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) The issue for me is that this absolute pleb has not only blackened the name of all of us and the club, but has also made the removal of the underperforming manager much more problematic, at least from a PR perspective. If the board now remove him, the decision will wrongly be linked to this plebs abhorrent views. Edited December 29, 2020 by Beaker71 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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