Dieter's Heeder Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, piffer said: No other clubs in the same league transferred teams to rivals either permanently or on loan? Almost entirely when it's a player not getting game time at a club who are performing better than the buyer (borrower) or at a lower standard. Us getting recent loan players from Celtic for example or say, if we were currently flush with strikers it wouldn't be out of the question to see the likes of Cameron out on loan again at a Morton, QOTS etc. If you've got someone in mind from the championship or elsewhere, who is it that you're thinking about and why would we be able to get that deal done on a loan or for peanuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cill Mheàrnaig Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, funky monkey said: Why does it need to be a Premiership level footballer? We aren't in the Premiership. Because if someone hasn't had a season in the Premiership where they scored at least one-in-two then plenty of Killie fans throw their toys out the pram. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkmus Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 You can be disappointed and still support the team, I'm surprised we haven't improved the midfield think we are far too passive and don't create enough, minimum one extra striker also required. Not a good window for us, see you Saturday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casual observer Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Couple of observations - I’m unaware of any strikers from our league in Scotland that their club would be willing to loan to us as they’re so far out the picture, or wish to strengthen a direct rival if they’re any good. I’m confident with the shifted sands in the Premiership some guys will now see first team opportunities more limited and a move to the biggest team in the Championship and helping them win the league and gain promotion is more attractive than sitting in the stand of a Saturday. Also, I’d be a lot more annoyed as a Hibs fan than a Killie one that they missed out on McGrath last night by leaving it too late to get the paperwork & registration done by midnight. They’ve had all summer to work that deal out. That’s incompetent compared to having the selling club back out of a deal at the 11th hour. Finally, we still have the best squad in the league and I look forward to our lads showing that over the next 8 months. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, Dieter's Heeder said: So it's a free agent from another championship club? Are one of our promotion rivals going to sell us one of their assets for peanuts? Or are we going further down the leagues than that? Prior to the window closing, could have been from any club at any level in any country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 IMO we should had a better striker in place for start of the season but for various reasons one or 2 earlier deals fell through and then TW was waiting on his main targets… Not sure in this instance Fowler getting blamed, has looked all summer that TW has been very much the man in charge of dealings , nearly all the signings are ones which TW or his assistant have history or known about , the deal for the second striker fell through as Hibs had a late change of mind as own deals collapsed at last minute, despite TW reportedly previously speaking to the Hibs manager and getting the go ahead Hope is now TW has back up plan and moves quickly to get a striker in on loan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellman2010 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) St Johnstone finally getting their Finnish striker registered, could potentially free up Callum Hendry for a loan deal. Edited September 1, 2021 by Bellman2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, BelieveToAchieve said: What good would that have done if plan B was another permanent signing that there was just as much chance of falling through too? E.g. it would have been a similar situation with Hendry, with Saints wanting to sign a replacement before letting him go. If plan B is a loan, there was no need to get it done last night. As it happens, At Johnstone have just announced the signing of their Finnish striker this morning, so there's possibly a chance of us getting Hendry on loan now. Why are we targeting deals that will potentially fall through at the last minute? We didn't do that with the other 98% of the squad? We took a gamble and it failed. All will be good if we can still do a deal and get Hendry in on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Just now, Bellman2010 said: St Johnstone finally getting their Finnish striker registered, could potentially free up Callum Hendry for a loan deal. I’d be pushing for that now. f**k Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Are people under the impression that deals only ever fall through for Killie? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 minute ago, piffer said: I’d be pushing for that now. f**k Hibs. Hibs have done nothing wrong, dry your eyes. -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 id take Kennedy and Gullan/Hendry on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Stuart said: Think Fowler and Wright let this play out on purpose to give you something to whine about. I doubt Fowler ever thinks that far ahead -16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter's Heeder Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, funky monkey said: Prior to the window closing, could have been from any club at any level in any country. Realistically it absolutely couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Clark Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 What is the situation with Barrie McKay ? He is listed twice on the internet as a Killie player ,and it was quoted yesterday that Andy Halliday had been trying all week to get him to go to Hearts. Have I missed something has he joined us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Beaker71 said: Geez peace ffs. The move wasnt in our control. What do you expectthe club to do? Should they just abamdon the deal in case it falls through, or do we move on and look at olan B,C,D or E? I don’t know how many professional footballers there are in the United Kingdom but I would have thought it was possible to have another one or even two lined up as potential signings if the original target fell through. That’s what I expect the club to do. So that if the manager wants to sign two strikers in the transfer window then the club signs two strikers in the transfer window. Unless, of course, what we are saying is that only Jamie Gullane was suitable as a new recruit. I would find that strange. Edited September 1, 2021 by historyman -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dieter's Heeder said: Realistically it absolutely couldn't. Eh? Need to expand upon that. The transfer market, prior to the window closing, was more or less worldwide at every level, that was our choice budget permitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, BigYin said: What's to say the club don't have a player lined up to come in on loan in the event the Gullan deal fell through. There would be no need for it to be rushed through before the deadline last night. What difference will it make if they sign today, tomorrow, Friday etc. I'm sure well see another striker arrive in the near future I hope you are right but I wouldn’t put my house on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cill Mheàrnaig Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, John M Clark said: What is the situation with Barrie McKay ? He is listed twice on the internet as a Killie player ,and it was quoted yesterday that Andy Halliday had been trying all week to get him to go to Hearts. Have I missed something has he joined us ? He hasn't signed for Killie and is currently training on his own. Has moved back up to Scotland so his next move will likely be up here - however bigger clubs than us will likely be in for him. Wouldn't be blown away to see him at Aberdeen and Matty Kennedy end up here on loan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustykfc Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Quote I see Hibs offered Scott Allan to St Mirren last night for one of their players. This is the type of player we need in. I think we should approach them and offer him a loan to the end of the season. Would strengthen our midfield and provide the creativity everyone is asking for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackwilson Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Anyone mentioning that St. Johnstone have finally announced their Finnish striker, which means Hendry may be available for loan will have to read their article on the announcement. The work permit for him is still to be resolved (which has been the hold up this whole time) and they’ve only announced him to try and appease their fan base after last nights s**tshow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, historyman said: I don’t know how many professional footballers there are in the United Kingdom but I would have thought it was possible to have another one or even two lined up as potential signings if the original target fell through. That’s what I expect the club to do. So that if the manager wants to sign two strikers in the transfer window then the club signs two strikers in the transfer window. Unless, of course, what we are saying is that only Jamie Gullane was suitable as a new recruit. I would find that strange. “Eh excuse me Mr Striker, but would you hold off on signing for anyone else, just in case our first choice deals fall through?” What player in their right mind could turn down that kind of approach? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cill Mheàrnaig Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, rustykfc said: I see Hibs offered Scott Allan to St Mirren last night for one of their players. This is the type of player we need in. I think we should approach them and offer him a loan to the end of the season. Would strengthen our midfield and provide the creativity everyone is asking for This. Offer them a very good deal and he's a game-changer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Taking a step back , up to end of August bringing in at least 17 new players in such a short period is some going , so the Management team and JF deserve credit for sorting all those deals out…..whether these are the right signings and enough to get us promotion will be proved over the season The forward position has been the obvious missing part during all of the rebuild, hopefully Shaw can add some quality to that area and a deal for a loan signing or 2 can further enhance the squad 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cill Mheàrnaig said: This. Offer them a very good deal and he's a game-changer. That's if the McGrath deal is dead. They might want to keep Allan to get the deal for McGrath done in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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