TLC Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cass316 said: From what I've heard he's been offered a deal but told he won't be first choice. Heard similar. Thought at first it was a joke. Wright proving for all his tough talk he doesn’t have a clue -10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, Zorro said: Perhaps we could sign Boydie up to do ten minute cameos too. Or maybe we could put sentiment aside and ask is Burke still good enough to play 90 minutes for 30+ games a season or put pressure on the guy with the jersey to put in a performance every week? Will he still be able to perform if we are promoted back up? I’d say the answer to both questions is no. I think he can still do a job if managed correctly. He had a great start to the season and tailed away during it. He then found himself on the bench for a while and upon returning to the team started producing the early season form. Again he played pretty much every minute and the performances reflected that. I would definitely look to keep him on a short term, reduced wage deal. He still has goals and assists in him, but will have to manage how much he plays. His professionalism would also be a major boost to the younger players that look as if they may get more of a chance next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cass316 said: From what I've heard he's been offered a deal but told he won't be first choice. Why did the club not just say he’d been offered a deal, just like they did with the other players? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRonFaeTheQueenVic Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, RAG said: I think Burkes legs have gone as mentioned above. You'd be favourites to win the Championship with Lafferty in the team. I'd sign Lafferty at all costs and forget the rest. Do we go with eggs in one basket or for a more balanced approach? 25 goals from Lafferty and we're pushing for promotion, bad injury early in the season we could be doing a Partick if we've over-spent on his wages. Glad I'm not making these decisions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, BigRonFaeTheQueenVic said: Do we go with eggs in one basket or for a more balanced approach? 25 goals from Lafferty and we're pushing for promotion, bad injury early in the season we could be doing a Partick if we've over-spent on his wages. Glad I'm not making these decisions. Don't mention eggs in a Broadfoot topic... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Bring Burke in off the wing and play him in the middle behind a striker. He'd not be doing as much running but still be in a position to have a great deal of influence in a game. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, chubbs said: Bring Burke in off the wing and play him in the middle behind a striker. He'd not be doing as much running but still be in a position to have a great deal of influence in a game. I don't think that would work out. Did we not try that before and Burke himself said he didn't like playing there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKX16 Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 I think it's time for Kirk Broadfoot to move on, we got a couple of good seasons out of him and now he's a few years older and he is one of many players that should be moving on. It's been a bad couple of seasons and a number of players didn't step up to the plate. We need reliable goalkeepers and a defence that doesn't make stupid mistakes on a regular basis. Make it hard for teams to score against us and hope to hang on to Kyle Lafferty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zorro Posted May 26, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Skora11 said: I think he can still do a job if managed correctly. He had a great start to the season and tailed away during it. He then found himself on the bench for a while and upon returning to the team started producing the early season form. Again he played pretty much every minute and the performances reflected that. I would definitely look to keep him on a short term, reduced wage deal. He still has goals and assists in him, but will have to manage how much he plays. His professionalism would also be a major boost to the younger players that look as if they may get more of a chance next season. At the end of the day, It’s all about opinions. Mine is that even with good players, time eventually catches up with them. We’re going to be seen as a scalp in the championship. Teams are going to be bursting a gut to beat us. We cannot afford to “manage” players through games, we cannot afford passengers. We need a unit capable of out working our opponents offensively and defensively. We need a younger more mobile team who’re ready for the challenge in the coming season and ready to make the step up the next. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRonFaeTheQueenVic Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) Last 20 minutes off the bench against tired full backs Burke could be worth a few assists, set plays etc. Any more than that is probably an unfair ask. Edited May 26, 2021 by BigRonFaeTheQueenVic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetfitter Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Can’t believe this is a debate - get him hunted 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 I'd give Burke a year in the Championship, he still has more than enough quality. He burnt out in the past few weeks. Broadfoot time to move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funky monkey Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 He is done. Get him out of our club. That photo of him and Dicker leaning over Ibsen Rossi should have had him sacked there and then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrogate Peter Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Burke in his twilight is still twice the player Pinnock will ever be. He's also someone who cares about the club and a good role model for younger players. I don't understand some of the decisions being made here and that's been the case for two years now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAG Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 38 minutes ago, BigRonFaeTheQueenVic said: Do we go with eggs in one basket or for a more balanced approach? 25 goals from Lafferty and we're pushing for promotion, bad injury early in the season we could be doing a Partick if we've over-spent on his wages. Glad I'm not making these decisions. If the budget is the same for other players and Lafferty accepts what he was on, isn't really eggs in one basket. On his SPL form, he'd get 25+ in the Championship easily. Until he signs for someone else, we can but hope. If we want to win the league and don't sign Lafferty, we need to find someone else to stick in 20+ a season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killie_Damo Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 The thing with Broadfoot in my opinion is that he's likely now a fairly middle of the road Championship defender. He won't be the worst centre back in that position next season in that league. However sometimes as a manager you need to recognise a stench and know how to fix it. There will always be a stigma over Broadfoot here now stemming for his ludicrous reaction to Alessio and then being brought back when player power won the day. That's a cloud we just don't need hanging over our club anymore - we need a clean break from those involved with that scenario and that's why he shouldn't be offered a contract in my opinion. Big test of Wright's man management here to recognise the feeling and fix it rather than fuel the fire and still have the Broadfoot cloud hanging over us next season when we had the chance for a fresh start. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShark Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Killie_Damo said: The thing with Broadfoot in my opinion is that he's likely now a fairly middle of the road Championship defender. He won't be the worst centre back in that position next season in that league. However sometimes as a manager you need to recognise a stench and know how to fix it. There will always be a stigma over Broadfoot here now stemming for his ludicrous reaction to Alessio and then being brought back when player power won the day. That's a cloud we just don't need hanging over our club anymore - we need a clean break from those involved with that scenario and that's why he shouldn't be offered a contract in my opinion. Big test of Wright's man management here to recognise the feeling and fix it rather than fuel the fire and still have the Broadfoot cloud hanging over us next season when we had the chance for a fresh start. 100% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp3ckyh0td0g81 Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 its time for quaver toe to go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogwai Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Now that a lot of the heat is out the debate, as much as I don't want to see Broadfoot back on the pitch in a Killie shirt, several managers have now commented on his presence and positive attitude in the dressing room (Alessio aside). He has that never-say-die winners attitude, he's competitive and could drive the other (first choice) CBs on to perform. He also knows the dirty side of the game which youngsters would do well to learn (remember Steve Clarke's first game in charge at Ibrox). If TW thinks that KB is going to help (as a backup), then I'll trust his judgement on that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Wonder if Broadfoot may be looking for player coaching role , even at a lower level….Alloa for example 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanerba'Tam Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, Scouser2 said: Wonder if Broadfoot may be looking for player coaching role , even at a lower level….Alloa for example That would work for him or Burke as Barry Ferguson will be looking for his own guys to bring in… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Zorro said: Teams have recognised this and found its far more effective to target play at our right back area... They would have had more joy attacking the other flank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Zorro said: At the end of the day, It’s all about opinions. Mine is that even with good players, time eventually catches up with them. We’re going to be seen as a scalp in the championship. Teams are going to be bursting a gut to beat us. We cannot afford to “manage” players through games, we cannot afford passengers. We need a unit capable of out working our opponents offensively and defensively. We need a younger more mobile team who’re ready for the challenge in the coming season and ready to make the step up the next. I agree on the part we need a younger more mobile team. However, we need some experienced players there to learn from and help them along IMO. Burke as a player coach would be good and I definitely think he still has more than enough to do well in the Championship. It all depends how much he’s willing to pay for though as you’d imagine he’d need to accept a much lower salary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesper Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Mogwai said: Now that a lot of the heat is out the debate, as much as I don't want to see Broadfoot back on the pitch in a Killie shirt, several managers have now commented on his presence and positive attitude in the dressing room (Alessio aside). He has that never-say-die winners attitude, he's competitive and could drive the other (first choice) CBs on to perform. He also knows the dirty side of the game which youngsters would do well to learn (remember Steve Clarke's first game in charge at Ibrox). If TW thinks that KB is going to help (as a backup), then I'll trust his judgement on that. Agree with you entirely. By all accounts he's the "model pro" and looks after himself well. Added to everything in your post, if he was offered a role as a squad player and not a guaranteed start every week, I'd be happy for him to sign for another season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big sexy Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Would let burke go we need to start looking to the future we cant be just keeping him on cos hes a nice guy and loves the club .Hes been one of our best players this season but last 5 or so games he looked done and probably knows that himself -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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