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Right TW you are being charged with getting us up in 1 season. We are going to give you a healthy budget to achieve this. 

If you fail be prepared for the fans to publicly crucify you. 

Oh by the way only sign members of staff that have been approved by Killie Kickback. 

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5 hours ago, Ngonge88 said:

Imo this is where the fans rep on the board needs to step in.

As someone said elsewhere. This would seriously slow ST sales and a lot of positive vibes. 

Come on Killie

That is exactly the opposite of what the fans rep on the board should be doing.  Get an f'n grip.

Sorry Tommy ye cannae sign that player cos Cathy says the fans'll no be happy.

Am I happy at the prospect of Doyle returning- far from it. But it is entirely the Manager's decision and remit to sign him if he does. Rather than having 3 keepers and  coach, we could save on budget by having 2 keepers and a keeper/coach allowing budget to be spent on other areas. Perfectly sensible option.

 

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24 minutes ago, CardinalSpin said:
30 minutes ago, Decripit said:

Right TW you are being charged with getting us up in 1 season. We are going to give you a healthy budget to achieve this. 

If you fail be prepared for the fans to publicly crucify you. 

Oh by the way only sign members of staff that have been approved by Killie Kickback. 

 

The thing is the majority opinion on here have been right about more issues than anyone at the club in the last two years Tommy Wright included!

We get relegated and are rightly upset since this was so avoidable but we dust ourselves down and get on with it. Then there's talk of this obese imposter coming back!

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(theboyjohnston) Quote.  Am I happy at the prospect of Doyle returning- far from it. But it is entirely the Manager's decision and remit to sign him if he does. Rather than having 3 keepers and  coach, we could save on budget by having 2 keepers and a keeper/coach allowing budget to be spent on other areas. Perfectly sensible option.

I have got to say I agree with the logic behind his post.  But like everybody else he should be no where playing for us. 

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Why would anyone think he might be a good coach. He spent the season with us and at no point did he look fit. Positional sense, absolute dross. Decision making, shocking. Organising defence, pathetic. Ball handling, did he have hoofs under those gloves?!?!

Which of these qualities tells you he would make a good coach.

I'm trying to stay positive for the rebuild but this has really pushed ma button.

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14 minutes ago, DG5 said:

(theboyjohnston) Quote.  Am I happy at the prospect of Doyle returning- far from it. But it is entirely the Manager's decision and remit to sign him if he does. Rather than having 3 keepers and  coach, we could save on budget by having 2 keepers and a keeper/coach allowing budget to be spent on other areas. Perfectly sensible option.

I have got to say I agree with the logic behind his post.  But like everybody else he should be no where playing for us. 

Can't disagree with that - unfortunately, the article suggests he'd be #2 goalie, rather than third choice though

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Tommy Wright simply can't fix every single aspect of the club overnight. Its been mentioned before that Billy Thompson's time has long gone, with Alessio punting him to the youths before Dyer brought him back, so not only do we need 3 goalkeepers we need a goalkeeping coach too! If you're able to tick two of those boxes off in one go then it makes perfect sense. As said before, none of us know what TW sees behind the scenes in terms of what could make him a good coach. Tommy, a keeper himself who was also a goalkeeping coach under Michael O'Neil, must see that he's more up for the job than Billy. 

He'll be third choice next season. But that's where due diligence comes into play. You've got to make sure that the goalkeepers you bring are fit and have experience of playing full seasons as number one. Do that and barring a catastrophic piece of luck then Doyle is nowhere near the gloves again.

Lots of folk saying Naismith is a good addition, which is true, but you can't separate the two. For all we know the money that we're saving by combining a keeper and coach could be the couple of hundred quid difference between signing a really good player and not. We already will need to offer a bit more to the high-end players (like a goalkeeper..) for them to drop down so every penny is a prisoner.

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4 hours ago, tetentikov said:

FFS. I hate the phrase, but the optics of this are absolutely terrible.

A sensible football club will announce this properly. Wait until a big signing is in the door and at the bottom of the article put "In other news, Colin Doyle has returned to the club as first-team goalkeeping coach."

No need to draw huge attention to it - no need to mention he's registered incase of emergencies. 

Football fans are fickle - if we sign a 'keeper who has a brilliant start to the season and a number two who looked good in some cup games then nobody will even remember that Doyle is here.

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6 hours ago, CB said:

Probably shows up the stumbling block that is the 1st division. 

Quality players, for a specialist position are unlikely to want to drop a division. 2nd choice premier, at the very best. Unless we start throwing silly money about. Don't even think about an English prem loanee, unless he's 80th choice, or TW calls in a favour.

We'll have a body in the door. Which you need to play professional football, and then we can look at getting in someone with proper keeping mechanics.

 

Hearts played in the championship with an international goalkeeper who is at the Euros. 

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17 minutes ago, SaucyJackPirate said:

Lots of assumptions here trying to be positive, "might be a decent coach" "he's a cheap 3rd choice" "sensible saving of budget".  I'm glad yous are trying to be positive but instead of making assumptions or guessing here's a actual fact: Colin Doyle last season was as much use as a 6'4" bin bag full of s**te.  An unfit, immobile disaster of a goalkeeper. 

If he's cheap, then I'm sure there's someone better that will take the same wage.  If he's anywhere near a bench at Rugby Park then he's too close to the pitch.  This is 100% lazy recruitment, this clown should be nowhere near Rugby Park again.  After watching him last season how can anyone think that there isn't a better alternative than Colin Doyle for anything except eating pokes of chips.  This is a pisstake and honestly shows how much self-awareness those making decisions have.

I think you should get off the fence mate and tell us what you really think. 

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If he is coming as a coach and a third choice keeper then I don't see the problem. The third choice keeper in a championship side should be actually expected to play about as many minutes as the person who normally wears the mascot costume. Game time should be as reserve keeper in a cup of league cup game against a division 1 or 2 team.

There have been plenty of comments on here about not giving managers their own choice of back up staff. If Doyle is Tommy Wright's choice that should be supported.

As for encouraging board involvement in signings beyond authorising the money, it is bad enough importing Heart's cast off players without importing their cast off ideas of the role of a director or chairman.

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19 hours ago, muza1962 said:

How the hell can he coach someone to catch or save a ball, never mind save a penalty. He could be a top coach on how to fall to the right at every penalty, flap at a cross ball, dither when a ball is played back to him and so on. FFS cant fathom this one out. Gary Dicker back as team building coach next?

Alan Russell became a top international striker coach and his record as a player wasn’t that great…

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3 hours ago, SaucyJackPirate said:

Lots of assumptions here trying to be positive, "might be a decent coach" "he's a cheap 3rd choice" "sensible saving of budget".  I'm glad yous are trying to be positive but instead of making assumptions or guessing here's a actual fact: Colin Doyle last season was as much use as a 6'4" bin bag full of s**te.  An unfit, immobile disaster of a goalkeeper. 

If he's cheap, then I'm sure there's someone better that will take the same wage.  If he's anywhere near a bench at Rugby Park then he's too close to the pitch.  This is 100% lazy recruitment, this clown should be nowhere near Rugby Park again.  After watching him last season how can anyone think that there isn't a better alternative than Colin Doyle for anything except eating pokes of chips.  This is a pisstake and honestly shows how much self-awareness those making decisions have.

That is a shocking, distasteful post.

You've made my bin bag full of s**te cry.

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It’s like employing a Mathematics teacher who can’t do basic arithmetic! 
 

TW must see something in him as a coach that we don’t but in any situation where someone is instructing another there needs to be credibility and based on last seasons performances that is going to be a big ask. “ don’t do as I do, do as I say” 

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