skygod Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 From the obituary to Charlie Gallagher on the Celtic Star website: "A couple of weeks after his time in the first team he was in the dressing room at Kilmarnock before a Reserve game one Friday night (Reserve games were often played then and attracted reasonably large crowds) when someone came in with the news that someone had shot the President of the United States. At half time the story was that he was now dead, and at full time, after the Reserves had lost 4-2, the story was confirmed that John F Kennedy had been shot in Dallas. It was an event that took over everything, and the following day there was an impressive tribute paid to the President in a minute’s silence. Celtic then went on to win 5-0 over Kilmarnock in one of their best performances of the season." Can any veteran on here say that they heard of the assassination of Kennedy while at the match? Or was at the first-team match? Celtic: Fallon; Young, Gemmell; Clark, McNeill, Kennedy; Johnstone, Murdoch, Chalmers, Divers, Hughes. Scorers: Divers (8), Hughes 3 (43, 60, 85), Johnstone (86) Kilmarnock:Forsyth; King, Watson; O'Connor, McGrory, Beattie; Brown, McInally, McFadzean, Sneddon, McIlroy Referee: J Wallace (Lenzie) Attendance: 25,000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundonald_Killie Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I remember asking my Dad a few years ago where he had his "JFK moment" and he said he was at Rugby Park at that Reserve League Cup tie when he heard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimi Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I heard about it just before I left to go to the game. I remember running to tell my pals the news. I think there was a tannoy announcement as I arrived 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Great stuff! Forget “Where were you when you heard JFK had been shot?” For Killie fans it’s a case of “Did anything interesting happen while you were watching Killie Reserves?”! Edited July 23, 2021 by skygod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 The excellent "Every game" by David Ross gives the attendance for the 5-0 game as 27,548. We finished 2nd that season, Celtic were 3rd. Gained our revenge by beating them 4-0 in the return home game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 10 hours ago, skygod said: From the obituary to Charlie Gallagher on the Celtic Star website: "A couple of weeks after his time in the first team he was in the dressing room at Kilmarnock before a Reserve game one Friday night (Reserve games were often played then and attracted reasonably large crowds) when someone came in with the news that someone had shot the President of the United States. At half time the story was that he was now dead, and at full time, after the Reserves had lost 4-2, the story was confirmed that John F Kennedy had been shot in Dallas. It was an event that took over everything, and the following day there was an impressive tribute paid to the President in a minute’s silence. Celtic then went on to win 5-0 over Kilmarnock in one of their best performances of the season." Can any veteran on here say that they heard of the assassination of Kennedy while at the match? Or was at the first-team match? Celtic: Fallon; Young, Gemmell; Clark, McNeill, Kennedy; Johnstone, Murdoch, Chalmers, Divers, Hughes. Scorers: Divers (8), Hughes 3 (43, 60, 85), Johnstone (86) Kilmarnock:Forsyth; King, Watson; O'Connor, McGrory, Beattie; Brown, McInally, McFadzean, Sneddon, McIlroy Referee: J Wallace (Lenzie) Attendance: 25,000 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I was at the réserve match and when the shocked announcer revealed that JFK had been shot, a clown at the back of the East terracing shouted " Wan Pape down and eleven to go." I have never heard anything so vile from a Killie fan. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, jasper said: I was at the réserve match and when the shocked announcer revealed that JFK had been shot, a clown at the back of the East terracing shouted " Wan Pape down and eleven to go." I have never heard anything so vile from a Killie fan. When is your avatar picture from......20 years ago?? Gid nick for your age fella! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estragon Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I don't know if anyone has read the book "Manchester United Ruined My Life" by Colin Schindler - but it opens with a Kilmarnock/Kennedys crossover story, of which there can't be too many. The author is a Man City fan (from their likeable pre-2008 incarnation), and writes a book about growing up supporting the city's 2nd most successful club. He describes being woken up in 1968 with the news that someone had assassinated Bobby Kennedy, presidential candidate and brother of JFK - and sleepily assumed that they were talking about Bobby Kennedy, Man City wing back signed from us 7 years previously. From then on the player is referred to as "The Real Bobby Kennedy" for the rest of the book. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 It was definately a Friday night but I was too wee to be allowed to go to the fitba on ma own then. And my dad would not have taken me to a reserve game on a Friday night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Fudger said: When is your avatar picture from......20 years ago?? Gid nick for your age fella! Put it down to good French food and wine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Estragon said: I don't know if anyone has read the book "Manchester United Ruined My Life" by Colin Schindler - but it opens with a Kilmarnock/Kennedys crossover story, of which there can't be too many. The author is a Man City fan (from their likeable pre-2008 incarnation), and writes a book about growing up supporting the city's 2nd most successful club. He describes being woken up in 1968 with the news that someone had assassinated Bobby Kennedy, presidential candidate and brother of JFK - and sleepily assumed that they were talking about Bobby Kennedy, Man City wing back signed from us 7 years previously. From then on the player is referred to as "The Real Bobby Kennedy" for the rest of the book. Bobby Kennedy signing for Man City. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, skygod said: Bobby Kennedy signing for Man City. Was that a record transfer fee at the time, from a Scottish team to an English one? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I believe it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 hours ago, skygod said: Put it down to good French food and wine! And the sunshine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesper Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, jasper said: I was at the réserve match and when the shocked announcer revealed that JFK had been shot, a clown at the back of the East terracing shouted " Wan Pape down and eleven to go." I have never heard anything so vile from a Killie fan. Slight off-topic, but relevant to your post... Sadly a Killie fan holds this position for me too. Before the stadium was built, I was standing at the side-line of what is now the East Stand at a game v Motherwell,shortly after Tommy Coyne's wife had just died. As he ran over to pick up a ball that had gone out of play right in front of me, someone behind me shouted "How's the wife, Tommy"? Even as a young lad this made my blood run cold. How he ignored that is beyond me - there's zero doubt he heard him as it was at such close quarters. 30ish years later, it's still the sickest/harshest thing I've heard at a game. Edited July 23, 2021 by jesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 7 hours ago, gdevoy said: It was definately a Friday night but I was too wee to be allowed to go to the fitba on ma own then. And my dad would not have taken me to a reserve game on a Friday night. C’mon, @gdevoy, you must have been about eighteen at the time ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefife Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 8 hours ago, jasper said: I was at the réserve match and when the shocked announcer revealed that JFK had been shot, a clown at the back of the East terracing shouted " Wan Pape down and eleven to go." I have never heard anything so vile from a Killie fan. Yes looking at the picture reminds me of someone from many years ago whose nickname was Jasper. Are you any chance John Paton from Galston. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, jesper said: Slight off-topic, but relevant to your post... Sadly a Killie fan holds this position for me too. Before the stadium was built, I was standing at the side-line of what is now the East Stand at a game v Motherwell,shortly after Tommy Coyne's wife had just died. As he ran over to pick up a ball that had gone out of play right in front of me, someone behind me shouted "How's the wife, Tommy"? Even as a young lad this made my blood run cold. How he ignored that is beyond me - there's zero doubt he heard him as it was at such close quarters. 30ish years later, it's still the sickest/harshest thing I've heard at a game. Vile 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, jesper said: Slight off-topic, but relevant to your post... Sadly a Killie fan holds this position for me too. Before the stadium was built, I was standing at the side-line of what is now the East Stand at a game v Motherwell,shortly after Tommy Coyne's wife had just died. As he ran over to pick up a ball that had gone out of play right in front of me, someone behind me shouted "How's the wife, Tommy"? Even as a young lad this made my blood run cold. How he ignored that is beyond me - there's zero doubt he heard him as it was at such close quarters. 30ish years later, it's still the sickest/harshest thing I've heard at a game. Regular occurrence for footballers, on and off the pitch. we talk a lot about being treated like second class citizens. Until a significant portion of us act like humans, the treatment will continue. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 44 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: C’mon, @gdevoy, you must have been about eighteen at the time ? ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, killiefife said: Yes looking at the picture reminds me of someone from many years ago whose nickname was Jasper. Are you any chance John Paton from Galston. No, I don't have that honour. I chose Jasper as a pseudo because it was Durant's nickname and I thought he was great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Jasper Carrott. Carrots are orange? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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