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Eamonn Brophy is away with the fairies, and tales of other former players (Split from League Cup last 16 draw)


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29 minutes ago, Zorro said:

How was the broken bone confirmed without a scan? Why was someone with constant pain in their foot blazing away shots from anywhere inside our opponents half and being sent off for a reckless challenge?

My mother-in-law recently fell and thought she’d broke her wrist. She went to A&E and after a scan she was told it was just a sprain. After a week of pain she phoned her GP and they booked her in for diagnostic imaging. Turns out she had fractured her wrist. 

Now it might surprise you to learn that my Mother-in-law isn’t a relatively well paid striker, who had hopes of playing for Scotland at the euros. Nevertheless she took matters into her own hands rather than waiting 7-8 months to do anything about it. That answers any questions I have about the clubs role in this. 

Your mother in law isn’t a professional footballer at a club with medical staff and physios that are meant to be looking after her. 
 

To suggest that players at a professional football club should look for the NHS to diagnose their issues is absurd. 

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2 minutes ago, Zorro said:

Yeh I’m sure the board were beating down his door and demanding they spend their money. He could also have signed Brophy on a pre-contract and left him with us until the summer and still have got Lafferty on a free. This wouldn’t have diminished any potential sell on value he could recoup from Brophy. The wages for either, I don’t know, but then again neither do you so it’s just speculation. And we must have wildly different definitions of starting the season on fire. He’s managed 90 minutes from 180 and scored zero goals. He’s not claiming a hattrick for the 3-0 win they were awarded against Dumbarton, is he?

He scored in every friendly they played, there fans seem to be liking him and they did sign him on a pre contract.Also I would take it Goodwin would have free hand in signing if they were within his budget with no interference from the board.Lafferty had no club after the transfer window and was a no brainier for us and still didn’t save us.Brophy is still playing in the Premiership and will probably spend the rest of his career at that level or similar.Can you say that for our present centre?

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12 minutes ago, Zorro said:

St Mirren sent him for a scan after he’d complained of pain in his foot for “a number of weeks”, they played him after a stress fracture had been identified and then he was out injured for nine/ten weeks after that. Those are the facts from the St Mirren manager. I’m gonna speculate he has better information than you. 

Brophy had a broken bone in his foot for over six months at Killie. Killie wouldn’t send him for a scan. Those are both factually correct.
 

The issue was diagnosed by St Mirren. Don’t know why they played him when he had a stress fracture but the fact he was out for so long after that indicates that it was a serious issue rather than a trivial one. Perhaps Killie didn’t want him out for that length of time who knows but the club didn’t deal with it properly. If they had diagnosed it in June when he said the issue arose he’d have recovered within 3 months. 

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44 minutes ago, MarkyMark said:

When St Mirren sent him they found out he had a broken bone in his foot. 

A month and six matches after he signed on loan.

Did he not mention at his medical that he was in constant pain and on medication?

He had a stress fracture which isn't always easily detectable. It's even harder to detect if the patient doesn't mention it!

 

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17 minutes ago, MarkyMark said:

Surely it is up to the club to look after players and not the NHS. He has an issue with his foot for months but the club wouldn’t send him for a scan. When St Mirren sent him they found out he had a broken bone in his foot. 

I agree it is up to the club but if I was in that much pain I would just go to the hospital. As I stated everyone else seemed to be getting sent for scans when they picked up an injury so why wouldn't brophy have been sent? Again why was it about a month after he signed for them that they picked it up in a scan? Wouldn't it have came up in his medical if "he had been complaining about it for months" as you are stating? 

You aren't able to answer any of the questions anyone is raising about this situation. Instead you are just peddling the same statement and saying it's fact. Wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last that players have embellished the truth to make themselves out to be a victim. Just look at Lafferty recently with his contract with us.

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7 minutes ago, skygod said:

A month and six matches after he signed on loan.

Did he not mention at his medical that he was in constant pain and on medication?

He had a stress facture which isn't always easily detectable. It's even harder to detect if the patient doesn't mention it!

 

He was getting a 2 year contract on £3k a week minimum. He also wanted away from Killie and perhaps the fact that they wouldn’t send him for a scan was another factor. Wouldn’t be the first player not to jeopardise a move by keeping quiet about an injury. 

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10 minutes ago, MarkyMark said:

Is that right? Do you think I’d say this without knowing the facts? 

Yes. What I don’t know is why you’d say it. Especially when the St Mirren manager is on record with the actual facts. 
 

I just did a quick Google search and found reports of three Kilmarnock players either taken for scans, seen by a specialist or taken to hospital last season. It seems improbable that we took a loanee but ignored the complaints of our “star” striker. 
 

Edit - four players found now. 

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11 minutes ago, MuirP said:

I agree it is up to the club but if I was in that much pain I would just go to the hospital. As I stated everyone else seemed to be getting sent for scans when they picked up an injury so why wouldn't brophy have been sent? Again why was it about a month after he signed for them that they picked it up in a scan? Wouldn't it have came up in his medical if "he had been complaining about it for months" as you are stating? 

You aren't able to answer any of the questions anyone is raising about this situation. Instead you are just peddling the same statement and saying it's fact. Wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last that players have embellished the truth to make themselves out to be a victim. Just look at Lafferty recently with his contract with us.

I’ve stated the facts that I’m aware of. They are correct. The source is credible. Folk either accept it or they don’t. It is up to them but why would I lie about this given Brophy has been gone for months. 

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1 hour ago, MarkyMark said:

Brophy definitely had a foot injury that Kilmarnock didn’t deal with properly. The issue was long standing and the club wouldn’t send him for a scan that would have diagnosed the issue. It was dealt with when he moved to St Mirren. As for hiding it when he signed for St Mirren I presume a move on a wage of £3k per week basic might have had something to do with that. 

Evidence?

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7 minutes ago, Zorro said:

Yes. What I don’t know is why you’d say it. Especially when the St Mirren manager is on record with the actual facts. 
 

I just did a quick Google search and found reports of three Kilmarnock players either taken for scans, seen by a specialist or taken to hospital last season. It seems improbable that we took a loanee but ignored the complaints of our “star” striker. 

Why would I say it If it wasn’t true? I’ve told you what the facts are. Brophy had a broken bone in his foot for over 6 months while at Killie. The club wouldn’t send him for a scan. I have an alleged reason for that but I’m not posting it as I have no evidence to back up the allegation. I found out about his injury before he signed for St Mirren. So what he said in his interview was correct. He had an issue when at Killie and it wasn’t diagnosed properly. It was diagnosed when he went to St Mirren. 

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4 minutes ago, MarkyMark said:

I’m telling you the facts that I know of. 

With all due respect but I don't know you from Adam. But jim Goodwin is quoted saying "he has had an issue with his foot for a couple of weeks" this was about a month after he signed for them. Goodwin didn't say months, he said weeks. If I remember correctly this coincided with pie & Bovril reporting brophy had picked up a foot injury in training. So I'm gonna believe the statements presented at the time by the st mirren manager and a die hard st mirren fan over somebody who just wants everyone to accept that they know better.

 

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1 minute ago, MarkyMark said:

Why would I say it If it wasn’t true? I’ve told you what the facts are. Brophy had a broken bone in his foot for over 6 months while at Killie. The club wouldn’t send him for a scan. I have an alleged reason for that but I’m not posting it as I have no evidence to back up the allegation. I found out about his injury before he signed for St Mirren. So what he said in his interview was correct. He had an issue when at Killie and it wasn’t diagnosed properly. It was diagnosed when he went to St Mirren. 

Why would people claim someone is signing when they aren’t? I have no idea what anyone’s thinking might be. What I do know is there’s plenty of evidence of our players being seen either by specialists or the NHS last season. Findlay (ankle), Kiltie (shoulder), Broadfoot (knee), Lafferty (foot), Medley (head), Waters (hernia)…. The only “evidence” we have that we denied Brophy access to medical treatment is from you. 
 

Don’t clubs have medical insurance for the players?

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8 minutes ago, Zorro said:

Why would people claim someone is signing when they aren’t? I have no idea what anyone’s thinking might be. What I do know is there’s plenty of evidence of our players being seen either by specialists or the NHS last season. Findlay (ankle), Kiltie (shoulder), Broadfoot (knee), Lafferty (foot), Medley (head), Waters (hernia)…. The only “evidence” we have that we denied Brophy access to medical treatment is from you. 
 

Don’t clubs have medical insurance for the players?

I’ve given you the facts I had. I had these facts before he signed for St Mirren. These accord with Brophy’s statement to the press. I don’t know why the club wouldn’t send him for a scan but they didn’t. Why would I lie about any of this? 

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5 minutes ago, MarkyMark said:

I’ve given you the facts I had. I had these facts before he signed for St Mirren. These accord with Brophy’s statement to the press. I don’t know why the club wouldn’t send him for a scan but they didn’t. Why would I lie about any of this? 

Precisely.  Why would you. There's a simple way for me to accept I'm wrong. Tell us how you know that the Club were negligent with one of their employees to his and ultimately their own detriment. And why has he not brought a civil case against KFC?

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13 minutes ago, MarkyMark said:

As I’ve said. I’ve given you the facts that I had and which I had from prior to him signing for St Mirren. I don’t know why the club wouldn’t send him for a scan but they wouldn’t and didn’t. 

Did you share this gossip, let’s call it what it is rather than using the term fact, before he signed for St Mirren? If you were concerned about how our physio department was being run, it would seem to be worthy of discussion. 

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I’ve never seen fact used so many times without anything presented to prove that it actually is a fact. 
 

As I said earlier in this thread the person who told me Brophy had injured her foot at training with St Mirren has no reason to lie about it. 
 

if he was in so much pain for 6 months why didn’t he just drop into his local A+E and get a scan. Jackanory doesn’t have a look in heard their turning it into a film The Brophy Saga. 

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