Skora11 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, Killiepies said: What a shambles in Spain up 2-0 now down 4-2 . He won’t last till Christmas ,defence is a shambles and his centre half’s are woeful They are a top side and no real disgrace losing there. Given time I think he’ll do well at Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Their defence is a shambles, whatever happened to Jack Hendry ? ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon19 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Must admit I though Celtic played quite well against a good side as Skora says I think he’ll do well , if they give him the time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Would have been a great away result if away goal rule was still in place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasg Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Pat bonner actually spoke sense on the radio said away in Europe he should change his formation as Soro had no help 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasg Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Prahakillie said: Would have been a great away result if away goal rule was still in place. In the group stages? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jasg said: In the group stages? Good point. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetfitter Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Prahakillie said: Good point. ? They didn't get a point. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Their style of football can be exciting to watch but there will be plenty of games like that where they score a few and come away with nothing. Domestically they will win more than they lose. In Europe it’s a different story with a higher level of opponent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Considering it looked - to me - like a scratch team, I thought they did okay. The defence was a liability as it was in the last game I saw in the Czech Republic or somewhere, and the guy Jota was great going forward but offered nothing in defence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heynow2005 Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 Watched the game. They played well, they aren't strong defensively tho. And to be fair Real Betis are a good side. Celtic missed a great chance to go 3-0 up just before Betis scored and that for me would have been game over. They played far better than any European performance under Lennon last year -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted September 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 6 games played, NINE points dropped. You've got to love watching these horrible bastards stumbling from one f**kup to another. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 I watched a bit of the second half of their game. At one point there was a sustained period where 21 of the 22 players on the park were in the Livi defensive third. Livi packed things out very similar to Hearts 1st game of the season and threw themselves at everything. They were very clever both drawing fouls and giving them away in the right positions to break the game up. I don’t see Celtic having the quality to break that down. They played with two wingers and attacking fullbacks but consistently had one man in the box. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted September 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 The worst start to a league season in 23 years. No domestic away wins in seven months. Six losses out of seven on the road in all competitions this season. A fourth defeat in five games. The statistics do not make pleasant reading for Celtic manager Ange Postecoglou, with the 1-0 reverse at Livingston leaving his side languishing in sixth place in the Scottish Premiership after six games. "We've played well in every game," the Australian told BBC Scotland, while questioning his side's consistency in the league. "It's not good enough. If we want to be successful we can't continue not picking up results in these games. That's the test for us." Are Celtic on the cusp of finding their feet and going on a positive run, or do their problems run deeper? Beleaguered Celtic lose at Livingston Reaction & how it happened Poor on the road Last season, Celtic finished 25 points behind Rangers and ended the campaign without silverware. Neil Lennon left as manager in February, with John Kennedy steering the ship until the summer. Yet, throughout the campaign Celtic only lost five league games - three of which were to Rangers. They have now suffered three defeats already this season. The last time Celtic started a campaign so poorly was in 1998-99. Back then they were the ones who had just stopped Rangers' attempt to win 10 titles in a row, but drew four times and lost twice in the opening eight games of their title defence. This season they have played free-flowing attacking football at times. They scored six against Dundee and another six against St Mirren. Even in Spain on Thursday away to Real Betis, they were 2-0 in front and had plenty of chances, but lost the game 4-3. That attacking verve was missing in West Lothian. Alarmingly they have not won away from home domestically since 14 February. That's nine games, six of those defeats. "It's a staggering statistic for a team like Celtic," said former Livingston boss Gary Holt on BBC Sportsound. "I've been impressed with them, but how do you deal with adversity, and is that mentality that they haven't won away from home getting into them?" Celtic's points totals after six games Lack of match winners Striker Odsonne Edouard has departed for Crystal Palace, Ryan Christie has moved to Bournemouth and Leigh Griffiths is on loan at Dundee. It's a new era at Celtic Park. Japanese star Kyogo Furuhashi scored seven goals in his first eight games, but he is out of action for at least a month after being injured on international duty. James Forrest and captain Callum McGregor are also sidelined. Albian Ajeti scored in midweek against Real Betis in the Europa League, after two goals five days earlier in the 3-0 Premiership win over Ross County. The Swiss striker has scored those three goals in eight games, but made little impact on Sunday. "That was just Livingston's second win in 19," said Holt. "Celtic did nothing, they disappointed me, they were trying to score the perfect goal. Livingston had the best chances in the game. "Kyogo does stretch the game, he comes short, he goes into the channels, and Ajeti doesn't do that. The two centre-backs will never have an easier game. "Sometimes when you're missing the main focal point of the team it can fester into the rest of the players, they just think 'we're a goal behind, we don't look like we're going to score'." Former Celtic goalkeeper Pat Bonner questions whether Celtic rely too much on Kyogo. He told BBC Sportsound: "Possession doesn't get you anything if you don't have an end product. "The players that are out on the pitch should be able to create more than that. They did start the season off really well, they were scoring goals. They've gone back a bit today. "They need to get their players back, Kyogo is key to them, but they can't rely on one player. The rest of them have got to step up now." Celtic results 'not good enough' - Ange Postecoglou What's coming up? The fixture list looks testing for Celtic, especially when their away record is considered. Three home games in a row are up first; Raith Rovers in the League Cup, a Premiership game against Dundee United, then a Europa League meeting with Bayer Leverkusen. Then comes a tough October. Their next three Premiership away games are at Aberdeen, Motherwell and Hibernian. Celtic failed to win at two of those venues (Pittodrie and Easter Road) on their last visits. Motherwell and Hibernian are also, ominously, above the Parkhead side in the table. Although five teams are above them, Celtic fans are probably only looking at Rangers. They are already four points behind their Glasgow rivals as they try to wrestle the title back across the city. Steven Gerrard's side were heading six points clear of Celtic before a second-half Motherwell goal denied them a 22nd consecutive Premiership win at Ibrox. "It could have been a lot worse," said Bonner. "They [Celtic] got away with it, with Rangers drawing, and the day before Hibs and Hearts drawing. "They can't afford to keep dropping points and creating that gap to Rangers." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 I don’t remember an old firm side looking as vulnerable to conceding when opponents attacks. Gerrards first couple of seasons, Mowbray, Le Guen they all were arguably poorer than this Celtic side but this team look like they could concede every time an opponent enters their third of the field. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted September 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 More points dropped at home. You love to see it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepies Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Sack race derby next week.Angie or Glass Who go’s 1st ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 54 minutes ago, Killiepies said: Sack race derby next week.Angie or Glass Who go’s 1st ? Thought Aberdeen were absolutely cruising it today until the red card. Don’t see Cormack sacking his puppet just yet. lots of Celtic fans still seemed to back Ange and put a lot down to injuries and a poor transfer windows. There was plenty of booing post match today though. Keep dropping points at the rate they are and the glory hunters will turn away 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Dillinger said: More points dropped at home. You love to see it. why do you care? They are in a different league and going off the more recent history I’d rather see the other mob fail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted September 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Guff92 said: why do you care? They are in a different league and going off the more recent history I’d rather see the other mob fail. Despise the pair of the c**ts and the amount of Celtic fans who are simply unable to take a good slagging about this is hilarious. Theyve been getting torn in to us for years and cant take a bit back. I've found my Rangers supporting mates have been far better at taking a ribbing about things than the Celtic ones, so enjoying their little spell in the doldrums. Why do you care that I care? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Ange rejected the notion that they are "struggling" the other day. I wonder when he will accept that they are. I'd say getting pumped 0-4 at home in Europe would suggest you're struggling... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdaw Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 I have enjoyed some of the attacking football Celtic have played, But Ange is starting to annoy me with his defensive stance in interviews, I dont like your questions or what ever. Last night his lack of understanding of Modern European Football was their for all to see. No way should Celtic or a Scottish Club be trying to play an open expansive attacking style against a top side from Germany. It suited their counter attacking style perfectly. The Celtic fans wount be long in turning against him and he could lose the dressing room soon if results dont improve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Dillinger said: Ange rejected the notion that they are "struggling" the other day. I wonder when he will accept that they are. I'd say getting pumped 0-4 at home in Europe would suggest you're struggling... I think domestic results determine if they are struggling more than European. Remember Rodgers team were dominant here but took some serious hidings in Europe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepies Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Its the Europa league they are getting hammered in not the champions league like Rodgers did.Not acceptable to Septic fans another loss or draw on Saturday and they will be demanding his head.If rumours are to be believed we will be looking for a new Scotland manager.He has been discounted in the past when in the frame but could probably now demand a Kings ransom to sort things out if he wished the job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, piffer said: I think domestic results determine if they are struggling more than European. Remember Rodgers team were dominant here but took some serious hidings in Europe. I agree domestic results determine it more, but dont count out just how much these european pastings will turn the fanbase against him. They have historically punched above their weight in Europe, at least with individual results against big teams, so the support wont accept losing by 4 at home. Rodgers got away with losing in Europe (in the Champions League, not the Europa!) because they were stupidly dominant domestically. Given that Ange's start to the season is the worst since umpteen years ago, the european pastings will only increase the pressure on him and the notion that they're struggling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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