Skora11 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Guff92 said: Salah, half the price. 32 goals and 10 assists in his debut season from the same position. A Chelsea flop from the farmers league (serie A) is what the British media called him. Amazing what a good manager can do. Let us know when Sancho gets up to speed ?? Salah has been unreal and probably better than any Liverpool fan could have imagined. He was 24/25 though when he signed for Pool and had already had experience in the league etc. Just goes to show that a player can develop after initially not playing well in the Prem. Cheers for the example ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casual observer Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 It’s foolhardy to write any signings off in their first season, let alone the first 6 weeks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, casual observer said: It’s foolhardy to write any signings off in their first season, let alone the first 6 weeks of it. It depends who the player is. A young player coming from another country will need longer to adapt than an experienced player from the same country. While six weeks is too soon under any circumstances, It’s still possible to form first opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Skora11 said: Salah has been unreal and probably better than any Liverpool fan could have imagined. He was 24/25 though when he signed for Pool and had already had experience in the league etc. Just goes to show that a player can develop after initially not playing well in the Prem. Cheers for the example ?? Did I dream that Sancho had already played in Manchester? Going on like he’s a guy who doesn’t speak our language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casual observer Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, skygod said: It depends who the player is. A young player coming from another country will need longer to adapt than an experienced player from the same country. While six weeks is too soon under any circumstances, It’s still possible to form first opinions. First opinions though are different from writing someone off. He is a young player, with no experience of the EPL and in effect his only meaningful career to date has been spent in Germany so far too early to make judgements in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, casual observer said: First opinions though are different from writing someone off. He is a young player, with no experience of the EPL and in effect his only meaningful career to date has been spent in Germany so far too early to make judgements in my opinion. I didn't read the thread to see who was being discussed. Presumably it's Sancho? It would be daft to write him off but better players have failed at Old Trafford because of the management. They seem to sign players without much thought as to where they will play, how they will fit in with other players, whether they will hold back good young players and so on. It often seems a case of buying players because they can. Sancho will come good, if not at United then somewhere else. Edited September 24, 2021 by skygod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorielus Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Guff92 said: Did I dream that Sancho had already played in Manchester? Going on like he’s a guy who doesn’t speak our language. I'm also not really sure why experience or adaptability would be a factor, United are about as one-dimensional a team as there can be at the top(ish) tier of football, they're a much less technical side than Dortmund and his most effective approach to the game will be "feed Ronaldo". That's not an insult to United, Madrid won multiple champions leagues doing that, and United would be crazy to do anything else, but it's not something that takes a lot of learning on Sancho's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 51 minutes ago, Lorielus said: I'm also not really sure why experience or adaptability would be a factor, United are about as one-dimensional a team as there can be at the top(ish) tier of football, they're a much less technical side than Dortmund and his most effective approach to the game will be "feed Ronaldo". That's not an insult to United, Madrid won multiple champions leagues doing that, and United would be crazy to do anything else, but it's not something that takes a lot of learning on Sancho's part. Main point being is he’s a United player. Media are much more lenient with them before they label their players a waste of money. Even to this day they push the agenda that Paul Pogba is a world class footballer. Look at Wijnaldum, you’d have him in your team ahead of Pogba, right? Presses everything, runs all day, gets the odd goal. Now at PSG he’s like a rabbit in the headlights. Again proving a top manager in Klopp gets the best out of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, Guff92 said: Main point being is he’s a United player. Media are much more lenient with them before they label their players a waste of money. Even to this day they push the agenda that Paul Pogba is a world class footballer. Look at Wijnaldum, you’d have him in your team ahead of Pogba, right? Presses everything, runs all day, gets the odd goal. Now at PSG he’s like a rabbit in the headlights. Again proving a top manager in Klopp gets the best out of players. £250' 000 a week softens the blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 Jesus wept, here’s the PE teacher looking to play games with Klopp. This will only end one way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Guff92 said: Did I dream that Sancho had already played in Manchester? Going on like he’s a guy who doesn’t speak our language. He was a regular in Manchester at 16. Give your head a wobble. Like you said Salah went from flop to one of the best in the Prem. Yet you’ve written sancho off after 5 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, Skora11 said: He was a regular in Manchester at 16. Give your head a wobble. Like you said Salah went from flop to one of the best in the Prem. Yet you’ve written sancho off after 5 games Ah, “one of the best”. He’s the best winger in world football, now that CR7 is more of a striker. There was a time people actually argued Hazard was better than him ? Don’t need to wobble anything, given his price tag I’d be wanting him to perform right away. Or at least show glimpses of something. He’s done absolutely hee haw. Not my problem though, just an observation. I’m sure you’d be just quick jumping on an expensive signing of Liverpools. Like when Van Dijk was a waste of money etc that kinda thing. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Imagine the European champions feeling they need to sit in and try and sneak a draw at home. Embarrassing from Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Ole out - glazers out, this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Just now, Zorro said: Imagine the European champions feeling they need to sit in and try and sneak a draw at home. Embarrassing from Chelsea. Aye but aye but they had 10 men…. Aw wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Guff92 said: Aye but aye but they had 10 men…. Aw wait. They need a number nine. You can’t win games without a number nine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Just now, Zorro said: They need a number nine. You can’t win games without a number nine. Aye, they should buy lukaku back. Heard he’s turned a new leaf and isn’t a big lump who scored goals against the weaker sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon19 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Just trying to make the season interesting, Peps lip would have hit the floor if he hadn’t beaten us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter's Heeder Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Pathetic from Chelsea and Tuchel. Embarrassing tactics from a club of that level. That said, City surprised me with how good they were. De Bruyne below par but everyone else was superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter's Heeder Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 21 hours ago, Guff92 said: Jesus wept, here’s the PE teacher looking to play games with Klopp. This will only end one way. See he's blaming today's defeat on the officials too. Going all out with the siege mentality because he knows him and his side are incapable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dieter's Heeder said: See he's blaming today's defeat on the officials too. Going all out with the siege mentality because he knows him and his side are incapable. Ole is like a teenager who keeps thinking a bigger exhaust on his Corsa is going let it compete with a Ferrari. So he keeps throwing money at the wrong area, when everyone can see the problem lies under the hood. There’s just a complete lack of oomph in the engine. Another season of mediocrity beckons unless they bring in a real manager b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Zorro said: Ole is like a teenager who keeps thinking a bigger exhaust on his Corsa is going let it compete with a Ferrari. So he keeps throwing money at the wrong area, when everyone can see the problem lies under the hood. There’s just a complete lack of oomph in the engine. Another season of mediocrity beckons unless they bring in a real manager b Reminds me of when Rafa took on Fergie, and we know how that f**king ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Class from Ajer there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 Well, that was entertaining compared to the oil friendly this afternoon. Salah miss at 3-2 cost us the game. Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Guff92 said: Well, that was entertaining compared to the oil friendly this afternoon. Salah miss at 3-2 cost us the game. Shocking. Yes 2 points dropped . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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