Beaker71 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Scouser2 said: Last season it was often pointed out how Burke was our only real consistent creative player , and that was a disadvantage as opponents easily knew how to stop us , so far it’s proving the same this season ……the hope is either or both Fraser Murray and Armstrong can kick on and add more as season develops , but we also need to see our central midfield 3 step up a level creative wise Polworth is creative, BUT if you have a striker who isn't up to it or cant make the right move or maoes it too late then it wont matter how creative you are. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galdunc11 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dave1981 said: I said pre season before he signed that to have Burke at the club would be amazing this season but we can't rely on a 37 year old to being our best/most relied on player in the starting 11. Its just not physically possible for him. I’m a huge Burke fan but I agree we seem to be over reliant on him. Yesterday he was systematically targeted by Inverness from the start and a couple of particularly heavy challenges and he was done. Could have been replaced at half time and certainly after an hour. Daft as it sounds it’s almost like he has something in his contract that says he starts and stays on until he tells Wright HE wants to come off. We needed fresh legs and ideas but kept persisting with him when he was clearly dead on his feet and the Caley players had him sussed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbk Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Credit to him for lasting 90 minutes especially after the treatment dished out to him on various occasions he must be really frustrated because how can you soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by so many turkeys in the opposing team who try to stop you taking off! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanWithaTypewritter Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Bbk said: Credit to him for lasting 90 minutes especially after the treatment dished out to him on various occasions he must be really frustrated because how can you soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by so many turkeys in the opposing team who try to stop you taking off! He only lasted 90 minutes because the manager chose not to replace him when he was clearly done and fresh legs might have made a difference. Wingers rely on pace and a player who will be 38 in four months time cannot beat opposition defenders who could be half his age for the full game. For me he starts and gets an hour against poorer teams and is an impact sub against the better ones...in general... to be amended depending on how the game is looking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunk Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Need to play the 2 young wingers we have for a few games 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Beaker71 said: Polworth is creative, BUT if you have a striker who isn't up to it or cant make the right move or maoes it too late then it wont matter how creative you are. The example was in the box in the 2nd half. Polworth chose the wrong option but Cameron was sleeping and it went out for a goal kick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 hours ago, FanWithaTypewritter said: He only lasted 90 minutes because the manager chose not to replace him when he was clearly done and fresh legs might have made a difference. Wingers rely on pace and a player who will be 38 in four months time cannot beat opposition defenders who could be half his age for the full game. For me he starts and gets an hour against poorer teams and is an impact sub against the better ones...in general... to be amended depending on how the game is looking. Oh dear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorielus Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 4 hours ago, Ngonge88 said: The example was in the box in the 2nd half. Polworth chose the wrong option but Cameron was sleeping and it went out for a goal kick. Given the number of times Cameron had made that move for Polworth to either turn around three times and have the ball taken off him, or bizarrely in the first half fire it at Cameron shoulder from a few yards away, I don't think Cameron can be blamed for not anticipating Polworth's (again overhit) pass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lorielus said: Given the number of times Cameron had made that move for Polworth to either turn around three times and have the ball taken off him, or bizarrely in the first half fire it at Cameron shoulder from a few yards away, I don't think Cameron can be blamed for not anticipating Polworth's (again overhit) pass. I do get your point. But Polworth and Cameron aren't even in the same league quality wise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorielus Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ngonge88 said: I do get your point. But Polworth and Cameron aren't even in the same league quality wise. Normally I would agree - yesterday I wouldn't though, I thought Cameron contributed signifcantly more than Polworth did and with a better attitude. Definitely the exception rather than the rule so far though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 We rely far too much on Burke and he ends up trying too much on his own. risks burning out early Rest him against Falkirk and give likes of Armstrong and Murray a CHance from start 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebigguy68 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 I expect half a dozen changes versus Falkirk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big ring Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 any news if Burkes has an injury from the game -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch14 Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 Doesn't sound minor from Wrights interview - a scan involved and no training this week. Baffled he was in the pitch so long. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, the big ring said: any news if Burkes has an injury from the game Hasn't trained all week according to TW.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 56 minutes ago, Andy said: I heard Burke WILL be out. As said elsewhere, seems extraordinary he was allowed to stay on the pitch until the end last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garvis Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, skygod said: I heard Burke WILL be out. As said elsewhere, seems extraordinary he was allowed to stay on the pitch until the end last week. Seems extraordinary how little protection Burke got from the referee, I wasn't expecting him to come out after half time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted September 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, Garvis said: Seems extraordinary how little protection Burke got from the referee, I wasn't expecting him to come out after half time. No protection and I think that’s a sign of thing to come not just for Burke but any player we have who makes an impression. Felt we could probably have managed it a bit better. As you say it wasn’t expected for him to see the second half never mind finish it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big ring Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 TBH I thought it was a fantastic tackle. I'd love us to be that good at timing a heavy challenge. Not pleased Burk was on the end of it but same rules apply and all that 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, mitch14 said: Doesn't sound minor from Wrights interview - a scan involved and no training this week. Baffled he was in the pitch so long. Even I could see he was done by half time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted September 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, the big ring said: TBH I thought it was a fantastic tackle. I'd love us to be that good at timing a heavy challenge. Not pleased Burk was on the end of it but same rules apply and all that I thought the first by the left back was a superb tackle. Had no issue with that. There were a few after that though which weren’t blatantly obvious. The most noticeable thing was the shirt pulling. Every time someone was close they had a tug and it was never punished 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelesboots Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, the big ring said: TBH I thought it was a fantastic tackle. I'd love us to be that good at timing a heavy challenge. Not pleased Burk was on the end of it but same rules apply and all that Reminded me of David Lilley's tackle on Neil McCann many years ago. Edited September 3, 2021 by Pelesboots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 The tackle on Burke in the first half was exactly the type of tackle that Naismith should have made on Gardyne who was the only player in that Inverness side that would push for a spot in our current side. Instead we allowed a player to waltz about the park skipping past players ten years his junior. Gardyne to them is like Burke to us and we have to accept referees at this level will be even worse than the ones we were used to in the top flight. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big ring Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 17 hours ago, piffer said: I thought the first by the left back was a superb tackle. Had no issue with that. There were a few after that though which weren’t blatantly obvious. The most noticeable thing was the shirt pulling. Every time someone was close they had a tug and it was never punished yep got to agree. It was like watching Aberdeen. loads of s**tey wee off the ball niggly fouls. Horrible t play against that crappy style. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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