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Someone has said on Facebook that it will still be around 4 weeks as they been held up. Don't know how true that is but it is certainly believable, and I don't think we can blame the club for shipments being held up in the current climate.

 

Supermarkets can barely get food on shelves just now so I doubt we'll have these by the end of the month. 

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34 minutes ago, Wrangodog said:

Where are those food shortages, I've never seen any ? That is also with an army of workers filling up their Amazon trolleys with food and other items off the shelves. 

Grocery shoppers face less choice as the boss of one of Britain’s biggest supermarket chains said food shortages were the worst he has known.

Steve Murrells, chief executive of the Co-operative Group, said it was reducing some ranges as the industry’s ability to get food to shops was hit by post-Brexit migration rules and Covid-19.

“The shortages are at a worse level than at any time I have seen,” he said.

Shops and fast-food restaurants are struggling for stock amid labour...

*paywall*

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/food-shortages-worst-i-have-seen-says-supermarket-chief-c3km3q7vg

Labour shortages in the food industry means consumers may not be able to find the products they like in supermarkets, an industry boss has warned.

"The just-in-time system is no longer working and I don't think it'll work again," Food and Drink Federation (FDF) boss Ian Wright said at an Institute for Government event on Friday.

Mr Wright warned that the UK was in for permanent shortages.

However, it didn't mean the country would run out of food, he stressed.

But a spokesman for the government said it did not recognise claims of permanent shortages.

The UK has a highly resilient food supply chain which has coped well in responding to unprecedented challenges," he said.

"We are taking steps to support businesses tackle a range of issues, from the pandemic to a Europe-wide shortage of HGV drivers."

He added that the support included expanding the Seasonal Workers Pilot to 30,000 visas for workers to come to the UK for up to six months, as well as a package of measures to help tackle the HGV driver shortage that will streamline the process for securing a licence.

Supply shortages

The FDF represents more than 800 food and drink companies in the UK.

Mr Wright stressed that "the UK shopper and consumer could have previously expected just about any product they want to be on the [supermarket] shelf or in the restaurant all the time.

"That's over. And I don't think it's coming back."

And as the sector adapts to structural changes in the labour market, Mr Wright said that firms are having to make decisions over which products to prioritise.

Last week, the whole of the east of England was basically unsupplied with bottled water because it was just not possible for the businesses that move that stuff around to supply that and everything else," he explained.

"So businesses took a decision to prioritise products with a higher margin."

According to the FDF, the food and drink industry is short of around half a million workers - or one in eight of the total workforce.

Mr Wright said the shortage is "driven by a combination of a number of factors". He warned that the resulting supply chain issues are "going to get worse", adding that "it's not going to get better after getting worse any time soon".

Several companies including supermarkets, pubs and restaurants have blamed a lack of heavy goods vehicle (HGV) lorry drivers for causing problems in their supply chains, including shortages of some products.

Lorry driver shortages have also have been blamed on EU workers leaving the UK following Brexit as well as during the pandemic and tax changes making it more expensive for drivers from elsewhere in Europe to work or be employed in the UK.

Mr Wright said that thousands of workers had switched to the online retail sector since the pandemic.

"It's almost certainly the case that one of the main drivers in the lorry driver shortage that we're facing is that qualified HGV drivers have gone into being distribution drivers for Tesco and Amazon, because they're nicer jobs, they don't require you to get up at 4am and they're better paid," he said.

"That is a structural change that won't reverse itself."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58519997

 

 

not to mention chain stores like Mcdonalds, Nando's KFC all having to remove items from menus as they cant get supplies.

 

McDonald's has run out of milkshakes and some bottled drinks at restaurants in England, Scotland and Wales.

The fast-food chain said it was facing supply chain issues affecting the availability of shakes and bottled drinks at its 1,250 outlets.

An updated statement said it was "working hard" to limit the impact on deliveries and customers and had taken some items off its menus for now.

It confirmed the lorry driver shortage was one reason behind the disruption.

Its statement said: "As reported, a number of issues are impacting retailers in the UK at the moment, one of which is the nationwide shortage of HGV drivers."

A wide range of businesses have reported problems with supplies because of the driver shortage.

Last week, Nando's closed some outlets after running out of chicken.

Earlier this month, a survey by the Road Haulage Association (RHA) estimated there was a shortage of more than 100,000 drivers in the UK, out of a pre-pandemic total of about 600,000.

Bonus payments

The RHA has said some 30,000 HGV driving tests did not take place last year because of the coronavirus pandemic, adding that a "historic" shortage in drivers had been exacerbated by changes to rules following Brexit.

More recently, drivers being told to self-isolate after being notified by the NHS Covid app have also added to the problem.

Analysis of the latest ONS Labour Force Survey for the second quarter suggests that 14,000 EU lorry drivers left jobs in the UK in the year to June 2020, but only 600 had returned by July 2021.

Firms from a number of sectors in the UK have been battling with a supply chain crisis due to a shortage of lorry drivers. On Friday, Logistics UK, which represents freight firms, and the British Retail Consortium (BRC) wrote to the government to plead for new measures to alleviate the problem.

Tesco has been offering lorry drivers a £1,000 joining bonus amid a chronic shortage of drivers in the industry.

Other companies are also understood to be offering similar incentives for HGV drivers after disruption to supply chains led to product shortages. Morrisons said it was working on schemes to train staff to become lorry drivers.

A government spokesperson said last week it was bringing in a package of measures to help tackle the HGV driver shortage, including plans to streamline the process for new drivers to gain their HGV licence and to increase the number of tests that can be conducted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58315152

 

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2 hours ago, gordon4418 said:

Grocery shoppers face less choice as the boss of one of Britain’s biggest supermarket chains said food shortages were the worst he has known.

Steve Murrells, chief executive of the Co-operative Group, said it was reducing some ranges as the industry’s ability to get food to shops was hit by post-Brexit migration rules and Covid-19.

“The shortages are at a worse level than at any time I have seen,” he said.

Shops and fast-food restaurants are struggling for stock amid labour...

*paywall*

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/food-shortages-worst-i-have-seen-says-supermarket-chief-c3km3q7vg

Labour shortages in the food industry means consumers may not be able to find the products they like in supermarkets, an industry boss has warned.

"The just-in-time system is no longer working and I don't think it'll work again," Food and Drink Federation (FDF) boss Ian Wright said at an Institute for Government event on Friday.

Mr Wright warned that the UK was in for permanent shortages.

However, it didn't mean the country would run out of food, he stressed.

But a spokesman for the government said it did not recognise claims of permanent shortages.

The UK has a highly resilient food supply chain which has coped well in responding to unprecedented challenges," he said.

"We are taking steps to support businesses tackle a range of issues, from the pandemic to a Europe-wide shortage of HGV drivers."

He added that the support included expanding the Seasonal Workers Pilot to 30,000 visas for workers to come to the UK for up to six months, as well as a package of measures to help tackle the HGV driver shortage that will streamline the process for securing a licence.

Supply shortages

The FDF represents more than 800 food and drink companies in the UK.

Mr Wright stressed that "the UK shopper and consumer could have previously expected just about any product they want to be on the [supermarket] shelf or in the restaurant all the time.

"That's over. And I don't think it's coming back."

And as the sector adapts to structural changes in the labour market, Mr Wright said that firms are having to make decisions over which products to prioritise.

Last week, the whole of the east of England was basically unsupplied with bottled water because it was just not possible for the businesses that move that stuff around to supply that and everything else," he explained.

"So businesses took a decision to prioritise products with a higher margin."

According to the FDF, the food and drink industry is short of around half a million workers - or one in eight of the total workforce.

Mr Wright said the shortage is "driven by a combination of a number of factors". He warned that the resulting supply chain issues are "going to get worse", adding that "it's not going to get better after getting worse any time soon".

Several companies including supermarkets, pubs and restaurants have blamed a lack of heavy goods vehicle (HGV) lorry drivers for causing problems in their supply chains, including shortages of some products.

Lorry driver shortages have also have been blamed on EU workers leaving the UK following Brexit as well as during the pandemic and tax changes making it more expensive for drivers from elsewhere in Europe to work or be employed in the UK.

Mr Wright said that thousands of workers had switched to the online retail sector since the pandemic.

"It's almost certainly the case that one of the main drivers in the lorry driver shortage that we're facing is that qualified HGV drivers have gone into being distribution drivers for Tesco and Amazon, because they're nicer jobs, they don't require you to get up at 4am and they're better paid," he said.

"That is a structural change that won't reverse itself."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58519997

 

 

not to mention chain stores like Mcdonalds, Nando's KFC all having to remove items from menus as they cant get supplies.

 

McDonald's has run out of milkshakes and some bottled drinks at restaurants in England, Scotland and Wales.

The fast-food chain said it was facing supply chain issues affecting the availability of shakes and bottled drinks at its 1,250 outlets.

An updated statement said it was "working hard" to limit the impact on deliveries and customers and had taken some items off its menus for now.

It confirmed the lorry driver shortage was one reason behind the disruption.

Its statement said: "As reported, a number of issues are impacting retailers in the UK at the moment, one of which is the nationwide shortage of HGV drivers."

A wide range of businesses have reported problems with supplies because of the driver shortage.

Last week, Nando's closed some outlets after running out of chicken.

Earlier this month, a survey by the Road Haulage Association (RHA) estimated there was a shortage of more than 100,000 drivers in the UK, out of a pre-pandemic total of about 600,000.

Bonus payments

The RHA has said some 30,000 HGV driving tests did not take place last year because of the coronavirus pandemic, adding that a "historic" shortage in drivers had been exacerbated by changes to rules following Brexit.

More recently, drivers being told to self-isolate after being notified by the NHS Covid app have also added to the problem.

Analysis of the latest ONS Labour Force Survey for the second quarter suggests that 14,000 EU lorry drivers left jobs in the UK in the year to June 2020, but only 600 had returned by July 2021.

Firms from a number of sectors in the UK have been battling with a supply chain crisis due to a shortage of lorry drivers. On Friday, Logistics UK, which represents freight firms, and the British Retail Consortium (BRC) wrote to the government to plead for new measures to alleviate the problem.

Tesco has been offering lorry drivers a £1,000 joining bonus amid a chronic shortage of drivers in the industry.

Other companies are also understood to be offering similar incentives for HGV drivers after disruption to supply chains led to product shortages. Morrisons said it was working on schemes to train staff to become lorry drivers.

A government spokesperson said last week it was bringing in a package of measures to help tackle the HGV driver shortage, including plans to streamline the process for new drivers to gain their HGV licence and to increase the number of tests that can be conducted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58315152

 

Gets more  and more like the old USSR.

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2 hours ago, gordon4418 said:

Grocery shoppers face less choice as the boss of one of Britain’s biggest supermarket chains said food shortages were the worst he has known.

Steve Murrells, chief executive of the Co-operative Group, said it was reducing some ranges as the industry’s ability to get food to shops was hit by post-Brexit migration rules and Covid-19.

“The shortages are at a worse level than at any time I have seen,” he said.

Shops and fast-food restaurants are struggling for stock amid labour...

*paywall*

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/food-shortages-worst-i-have-seen-says-supermarket-chief-c3km3q7vg

Labour shortages in the food industry means consumers may not be able to find the products they like in supermarkets, an industry boss has warned.

"The just-in-time system is no longer working and I don't think it'll work again," Food and Drink Federation (FDF) boss Ian Wright said at an Institute for Government event on Friday.

Mr Wright warned that the UK was in for permanent shortages.

However, it didn't mean the country would run out of food, he stressed.

But a spokesman for the government said it did not recognise claims of permanent shortages.

The UK has a highly resilient food supply chain which has coped well in responding to unprecedented challenges," he said.

"We are taking steps to support businesses tackle a range of issues, from the pandemic to a Europe-wide shortage of HGV drivers."

He added that the support included expanding the Seasonal Workers Pilot to 30,000 visas for workers to come to the UK for up to six months, as well as a package of measures to help tackle the HGV driver shortage that will streamline the process for securing a licence.

Supply shortages

The FDF represents more than 800 food and drink companies in the UK.

Mr Wright stressed that "the UK shopper and consumer could have previously expected just about any product they want to be on the [supermarket] shelf or in the restaurant all the time.

"That's over. And I don't think it's coming back."

And as the sector adapts to structural changes in the labour market, Mr Wright said that firms are having to make decisions over which products to prioritise.

Last week, the whole of the east of England was basically unsupplied with bottled water because it was just not possible for the businesses that move that stuff around to supply that and everything else," he explained.

"So businesses took a decision to prioritise products with a higher margin."

According to the FDF, the food and drink industry is short of around half a million workers - or one in eight of the total workforce.

Mr Wright said the shortage is "driven by a combination of a number of factors". He warned that the resulting supply chain issues are "going to get worse", adding that "it's not going to get better after getting worse any time soon".

Several companies including supermarkets, pubs and restaurants have blamed a lack of heavy goods vehicle (HGV) lorry drivers for causing problems in their supply chains, including shortages of some products.

Lorry driver shortages have also have been blamed on EU workers leaving the UK following Brexit as well as during the pandemic and tax changes making it more expensive for drivers from elsewhere in Europe to work or be employed in the UK.

Mr Wright said that thousands of workers had switched to the online retail sector since the pandemic.

"It's almost certainly the case that one of the main drivers in the lorry driver shortage that we're facing is that qualified HGV drivers have gone into being distribution drivers for Tesco and Amazon, because they're nicer jobs, they don't require you to get up at 4am and they're better paid," he said.

"That is a structural change that won't reverse itself."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58519997

 

 

not to mention chain stores like Mcdonalds, Nando's KFC all having to remove items from menus as they cant get supplies.

 

McDonald's has run out of milkshakes and some bottled drinks at restaurants in England, Scotland and Wales.

The fast-food chain said it was facing supply chain issues affecting the availability of shakes and bottled drinks at its 1,250 outlets.

An updated statement said it was "working hard" to limit the impact on deliveries and customers and had taken some items off its menus for now.

It confirmed the lorry driver shortage was one reason behind the disruption.

Its statement said: "As reported, a number of issues are impacting retailers in the UK at the moment, one of which is the nationwide shortage of HGV drivers."

A wide range of businesses have reported problems with supplies because of the driver shortage.

Last week, Nando's closed some outlets after running out of chicken.

Earlier this month, a survey by the Road Haulage Association (RHA) estimated there was a shortage of more than 100,000 drivers in the UK, out of a pre-pandemic total of about 600,000.

Bonus payments

The RHA has said some 30,000 HGV driving tests did not take place last year because of the coronavirus pandemic, adding that a "historic" shortage in drivers had been exacerbated by changes to rules following Brexit.

More recently, drivers being told to self-isolate after being notified by the NHS Covid app have also added to the problem.

Analysis of the latest ONS Labour Force Survey for the second quarter suggests that 14,000 EU lorry drivers left jobs in the UK in the year to June 2020, but only 600 had returned by July 2021.

Firms from a number of sectors in the UK have been battling with a supply chain crisis due to a shortage of lorry drivers. On Friday, Logistics UK, which represents freight firms, and the British Retail Consortium (BRC) wrote to the government to plead for new measures to alleviate the problem.

Tesco has been offering lorry drivers a £1,000 joining bonus amid a chronic shortage of drivers in the industry.

Other companies are also understood to be offering similar incentives for HGV drivers after disruption to supply chains led to product shortages. Morrisons said it was working on schemes to train staff to become lorry drivers.

A government spokesperson said last week it was bringing in a package of measures to help tackle the HGV driver shortage, including plans to streamline the process for new drivers to gain their HGV licence and to increase the number of tests that can be conducted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58315152

 

I didn't  say there weren't any, but personally I haven’t seen any in Tesco's Irvine, Morrison's Stevenston.

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11 hours ago, Wrangodog said:

No problems in Irvine Tesco.

There quite obviously is. There had been shortages especially with bottled water this seems to now be with juice in general. Other areas have a fair amount of missing lines. 

I left Tesco recently and in July we had loads of regular delivery drivers dissappear over the space of a week leading up to Brexit. Replicate that over the country with suppliers and everything is grinding to a halt. 

Id expect this Christmas to be rough for supermarket staff with the usual self entitled boomer c**ts going tonto that they can't get chestnuts to make Jamie Olivers new turkey stuffing and that its completely ruined their families Christma........ no life. 

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1 minute ago, cammy_boy said:

There quite obviously is. There had been shortages especially with bottled water this seems to now be with juice in general. Other areas have a fair amount of missing lines. 

I left Tesco recently and in July we had loads of regular delivery drivers dissappear over the space of a week leading up to Brexit. Replicate that over the country with suppliers and everything is grinding to a halt. 

Id expect this Christmas to be rough for supermarket staff with the usual self entitled boomer c**ts going tonto that they can't get chestnuts to make Jamie Olivers new turkey stuffing and that its completely ruined their families Christma........ no life. 

BTW nobody is going to starve. Just choice will be limited for a while I expect. 

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4 minutes ago, cammy_boy said:

There quite obviously is. There had been shortages especially with bottled water this seems to now be with juice in general. Other areas have a fair amount of missing lines. 

I left Tesco recently and in July we had loads of regular delivery drivers dissappear over the space of a week leading up to Brexit. Replicate that over the country with suppliers and everything is grinding to a halt. 

Id expect this Christmas to be rough for supermarket staff with the usual self entitled boomer c**ts going tonto that they can't get chestnuts to make Jamie Olivers new turkey stuffing and that its completely ruined their families Christma........ no life. 

Fair enough. Maybe we don't buy the kind of stuff, like bottled water, that is in short supply. Can’t say I agree with making the HGV licence easier, that’s the kind of stuff I expected the Tories to get up to when we left the EU. Bend the rules to suit the situation.

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9 minutes ago, Wrangodog said:

Fair enough. Maybe we don't buy the kind of stuff, like bottled water, that is in short supply. Can’t say I agree with making the HGV licence easier, that’s the kind of stuff I expected the Tories to get up to when we left the EU. Bend the rules to suit the situation.

Ive said for ages it should be about makeing it more attainable. Costs over 5k to get one because you need to get your class 2 first before your class 1. How many youngsters have that kicking about? Should be grants or at least long term interest free loans payable once in employment like a student loan without the interest. 

Or of course we don't kick perfectly good workers out the country for being a bit foreigniey and taking ar jobs (that clearly nobody wants to do)!

Also. I ment so say you might mot notice things if you can get what you need. I could see the shortages because deliverys were getting smaller and of course I was all over the shop dealing with various areas so could see the issues. Never seen anything close to this (start of the pandemic excluded) in the 18+ years I was there. 

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7 hours ago, cammy_boy said:

Id expect this Christmas to be rough for supermarket staff with the usual self entitled boomer c**ts going tonto that they can't get chestnuts to make Jamie Olivers new turkey stuffing and that its completely ruined their families Christma........ no life. 

A couple of points first:

1) I expect the folks who had to live through rationing in the 1940s and 50s are less that impressed with the greetin faced self obsessed spoilt generation moaning about "shortages".

2) I dont remember a single person on the "lets tell the EU to eff off" team mentioning one result of leaving the EU might be supermarket supply problems. If they had they would have been hunted by said greetin faced self obsessed spoilt generation who voted for them.

All of that said the final result of this may be more UK nationals paid a decent wage. In other words this is the pain of climbing out of the s**thole Tony Blair dumped us in by allowing in hoards of workers from Eastern Europe to work for s**t wages. Thues disproving the old adage that what is good for the economy is good for everyone. 

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I never mentioned any age groups but Its funny you say that because without doubt the most obnoxious ignorant and self centred groups that I ever encountered was the age groups you mention well the ones that were born in the mid to late forties and early fifties. 

I had a lady less than impressed that the shelfs were empty (they weren't anything like they are now which is still far from empty) whilst buying her copy of the Daily Mail.... oh the irony. 

These are the groups that love to talk about rationing and the war when they were in f**king nappies and know little of it. 

The older generation on the other hand. The ones that actually lived through that hell tend to be the kindest sweetest people you meet.

Boomers are c**ts! 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Some shortages over here in the US I was told today. Not food things they import. Girl who told said foreign goods like TVs and cars.

Have to say, when I was in a big shopping mall here every shop looked fully stocked.

But my company are suffering serious parts shortages, like electronics and chemicals, that I know for certain.

First step in the end of the world. Joking of course  but it's usually how these apocolyptic novels start, a pandemic then food shortages, riots, starvation. A cheery thought

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