BR1869 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Trojan76 said: Should get the respect he deserves, he' ss not did anything wrong or ill to our club. Can' t blame him for not joining the club if we never put a move in for him Agreed. I'd like to think we have longer memories than those in Govan and our response is better than theirs inevitably will be! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 If we haven't made any attempt to sign him then he will be treated with respect. If he scores against us and celebrates he will be hit with a scalding hot Killie pie! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR1869 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bullitt said: If we haven't made any attempt to sign him then he will be treated with respect. If he scores against us and celebrates he will be hit with a scalding hot Killie pie! Kirk will have him in his back pocket - you'll get to keep your pie I reckon! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, Trojan76 said: Should get the respect he deserves, he' ss not did anything wrong or ill to our club. When you see the chasm between his wages and what we could afford to pay I don't have a problem with him going somewhere with money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Bullitt said: If he scores against us before half-time and celebrates he will be hit with a scalding hot Killie pie! FIFY. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Would we take him in the summer if it all goes wrong at hearts?...for me it's a no. Don't like being second choice to a mid table rival. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbill Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boris said: Would we take him in the summer if it all goes wrong at hearts?...for me it's a no. Don't like being second choice to a mid table rival. If the move is true its only a loan deal till summer. If he becomes available after that and Killie go for him I would be more than happy to welcome him back to RP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, Bullitt said: If we haven't made any attempt to sign him then he will be treated with respect. If he scores against us and celebrates he will be hit with a scalding hot Killie pie! Scalding hot Killie pie. More chance of throwing a "no hot food left" sign at him. Anyway, unless we stay in the top six we won't be playing them again at home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Bigbill said: If the move is true its only a loan deal till summer. If he becomes available after that and Killie go for him I would be more than happy to welcome him back to RP. There's no way we could afford him on a permanent deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbill Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, Wrangodog said: There's no way we could afford him on a permanent deal. That depends on what he and Norwich would be willing to accept. And what other incentives Killie would offer over and above his wage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bigbill said: That depends on what he and Norwich would be willing to accept. And what other incentives Killie would offer over and above his wage. Surely if he is successful at Hearts they would want to keep him, and if he is that successful Norwich would want him back. Other than the fact he used to play for us and the proximity to his family home there is no logical reason for him to return. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Wrangodog said: Surely if he is successful at Hearts they would want to keep him, and if he is that successful Norwich would want him back. Other than the fact he used to play for us and the proximity to his family home there is no logical reason for him to return. Hearts are probably funding the loan with money from the Walker sale, which they won't have in the summer. I don't think Norwich will want to retain him under the present manager and will probably want a transfer fee, if only nominal, for him. I suppose he was entitled to get the best financial deal possible, but it's a little surprising that he signed a three-year contract when he seems to have had a long-term plan to move his family back after two years. Edited January 17, 2018 by skygod 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, skygod said: I suppose he was entitled to get the best financial deal possible, but it's a little surprising that he signed a three-year contract when he seems to have had a long-term plan to move his family back after two years. I doubt that was his plan. He signed the three year deal for a different manager - the new one has come in and not picked him. Judging by the recent reserve score he isn't one for sitting out his contract and counting the pennies, so in my view he's quite sensibly decided to accelerate the move home by a year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I thought his daughter started school next year and he wanted her settled? Would he want to stay on his own in Norwich, or somewhere else in England, next season? It makes sense to find a club in Scotland but his options are limited unless Norwich release him and he plays for very little, which he has hinted he would. Anyway, it's his dilemma! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGHT and BLUE Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I know it won't be popular with our resident experts and those that know every member of his family tree (plus dog, dentist and soft furnishing suppliers) but, I wish the lad well. On paper, he's just the player they need? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, WIGHT and BLUE said: I know it won't be popular with our resident experts and those that know every member of his family tree (plus dog, dentist and soft furnishing suppliers) but, I wish the lad well. On paper, he's just the player they need? He’s now a Jambo according to Sky Football 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkmus Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Didn't want him anyway, dirty hun bass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 As you get older, your perspective changes. Finances, family life, the team you are going to - what's their style of play? How you are going to fit into it? - all come into play, rather than simply, 'Is it a bigger club? Are the finances right?' There are a lot more variables involved now. Based on those comments he made I'm quite surprised that he has joined Hearts rather than Killie - if we did in fact also make an offer to him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, WIGHT and BLUE said: I know it won't be popular with our resident experts and those that know every member of his family tree (plus dog, dentist and soft furnishing suppliers) but, I wish the lad well. On paper, he's just the player they need? He was a fairly regular starter with Scotland when Levine was Manager. Don't know if he has really bought into Levine's formation and tactics. "0-0 is a success, play with nobody up front...." -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, WIGHT and BLUE said: I know it won't be popular with our resident experts and those that know every member of his family tree (plus dog, dentist and soft furnishing suppliers) but, I wish the lad well. On paper, he's just the player they need? If you want to say something really unpopular, suggest our pitch may have come into the equation, when he was making his decision. That’s the way to get a reaction. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plunkit Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, historyman said: As you get older, your perspective changes. Finances, family life, the team you are going to - what's their style of play? How you are going to fit into it? - all come into play, rather than simply, 'Is it a bigger club? Are the finances right?' There are a lot more variables involved now. Based on those comments he made I'm quite surprised that he has joined Hearts rather than Killie - if we did in fact also make an offer to him. I had heard earlier in the week that Hearts were willing to pay £150k in wages to have him for the rest of the season because he might be able to help them secure 4th or higher. That would give them a good return on investment. It seems that info was correct. From a Killie point of view it would have been far riskier with a return on investment unlikely under the loan terms Norwich are reported to have wanted to satisfy.I would therefore doubt if we made any approach at all to be honest. However, if he is negotiating a release from his contract and becomes a free-agent in the summer the a move to Killie becomes a real possibility as he may want to be closer to home, be able to learn coaching at the feet of SC - ceratinly can handle a wage cut to suit our budget. I wouldn't rule it out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, plunkit said: I had heard earlier in the week that Hearts were willing to pay £150k in wages to have him for the rest of the season because he might be able to help them secure 4th or higher. That would give them a good return on investment. It seems that info was correct. From a Killie point of view it would have been far riskier with a return on investment unlikely under the loan terms Norwich are reported to have wanted to satisfy.I would therefore doubt if we made any approach at all to be honest. However, if he is negotiating a release from his contract and becomes a free-agent in the summer the a move to Killie becomes a real possibility as he may want to be closer to home, be able to learn coaching at the feet of SC - ceratinly can handle a wage cut to suit our budget. I wouldn't rule it out. Now that it’s settled I’m of the opinion we weren’t talking to him in the first place. If this is the case, our manager’s decision has to be respected. I wish SN all the best in spoon burning land. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killie1970 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 As always, best of luck to him. A pleasure to watch him develop into the £2 million player that he became and beyond. Hope to see him back in the stripes at some stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bute-killiefan Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, Doonhamer said: Now that it’s settled I’m of the opinion we weren’t talking to him in the first place. If this is the case, our manager’s decision has to be respected. I wish SN all the best in spoon burning land. My thoughts too. I don't think we made any serious offer. Probably heard Norwich's demands and didn't take it any further 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Superscot Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Bullitt said: he will be hit with a scalding hot Killie pie! Where will you get one of those? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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