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32 minutes ago, Beaker71 said:

IMO he will get back in for a second term.  I work for an oil company and put head office is in Houston and they all think he is brilliant!!!!

As you say he has struck a chord with a substantial number of the US population and does have a lot of popular support.

There are a fairly sizable number of economically under utilised, white, male Americans without any great education for whom the politically correct ruling elite have little or nothing to offer. A group for whom responding aggressively to every problem and escalating things to the level of lethal force seems like the answer to every problem. You can see why Trump appeals.

More positively I do not think he will get a 2nd term. He has not lived up to his own hype so far and the Democrats are finally waking up from the torpor in which they though Trump was such a buffoon that even Hillary could take him.

 

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57 minutes ago, gdevoy said:

There are a fairly sizable number of economically under utilised, white, male Americans without any great education for whom the politically correct ruling elite have little or nothing to offer. A group for whom responding aggressively to every problem and escalating things to the level of lethal force seems like the answer to every problem. You can see why Trump appeals.

 

Trade wars and giving tax cuts to billionaires prove that Trump is for the working man. For a lot of people in the USA, voting on one issue alone is sufficient (The wall, banning abortions). 

 

I don't think he will even get to stand for a second term, never mind win it. I half expect Paul Ryan to challenge him.

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15 hours ago, Beaker71 said:

IMO he will get back in for a second term.  I work for an oil company and put head office is in Houston and they all think he is brilliant!!!!

idiocracy is alive and in America!  With the YouTube and kardashimong generation over here it’s heading that way too.

My mate worked in Houston, Texas but moved to Alaska with work. He thinks he's a cnut.

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I think The Donald has just had his bluff called by the Ruski ambassador.

"If you launch a military attack against our Syrian allies, we will take that as an act of war against Russia. Its your move."

He can either escalate the situation or look pathetically weak. which choice do you think he will make?

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On ‎12‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 2:05 PM, Beaker71 said:

Trump is a grade a f**kmuppet.  Elected on a slogan based of hot air and spin.

The world is heading for an idiocracy as the masses are too busy watching he f**kin kardashimongs to notice the s**tfest around them.

Stop the world I want to get off, while we still have a chance of stopping the circus

For once I agree with you.

I find myself praying for alien invasion or a zombie apocalypse!!

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The most widely teased passage of former FBI Director James Comey’s book is plucked from a scene set after the election, when intelligence community leaders, including Comey himself, traveled to Trump Tower in Manhattan to brief the incoming administration on the intelligence community’s conclusions about the scope and purpose of Russian interference.

Comey writes that Donald Trump and his advisers couldn’t have been less interested in the substantive implications of Russia’s efforts to interfere with American democracy—it was a messaging problem in their minds, and one they expected the assembled spies and counterspies to help them solve.

“I sat there thinking, Holy crap, they are trying to make each of us ‘amica nostra’—friend of ours. To draw us in,” Comey writes. “As crazy as it sounds, I suddenly had the feeling that, in the blink of an eye, the president-elect was trying to make us all part of the same family and that Team Trump had made it a ‘thing of ours.’”

By January 2017, this was already a tired insight into Trump’s ethics, and it is even less explosive now. Trump behaves like a mobster (or at least the way he imagines mobsters act) all the time. A handful of reporters working on the periphery of the campaign beat in 2015 and 2016 resurfaced Trump’s business ties to known mafiosi, and anyone curious enough to learn knows Trump has been in league with crooks, oligarchs, and money launderers for years. Comey’s epiphany will come as no surprise even to Trump’s staunchest defenders, including Steve Bannon, who rightly sees the special counsel’s investigation as a “Gambino-style roll-up.”

Comey’s epiphany is timely. Trump’s political method mixes mass tribalism with the kind of mob-like conscription of notionally ethical elite individuals that Comey describes in his book. He used this method to co-opt and compromise Republicans in Congress during the election, and has used it as president to avoid congressional oversight and to discredit law enforcement officers investigating him. Those who resist his recruitment efforts, like Comey and a handful of elected GOP officials, get fired, or attacked, or driven out of political life. And with the rule of law closing in on him from multiple directions now, he will use the same method in an attempt to save his presidency, even if it means permanently corrupting the political system of the United States.

Trump is now ensnared in at least two federal criminal investigations, both of which seemingly encompass his conduct as head of the Trump Organization. The New Yorker’s Adam Davidson, who has studied the Trump Organization closely, argued this weekend that when the FBI seized Trump-fixer Michael Cohen’s personal and business records, it marked the beginning of the end of Trump’s presidency. 

“Cohen was the key intermediary between the Trump family and its partners around the world,” Davidson writes, “he was chief consigliere and dealmaker throughout its period of expansion into global partnerships with sketchy oligarchs. He wasn’t a slick politico who showed up for a few months. He knows everything, he recorded much of it, and now prosecutors will know it, too. It seems inevitable that much will be made public…. t seems likely that, when we look back on this week, we will see it as a turning point. We are now in the end stages of the Trump Presidency.”

Davidson’s piece invited backlash from critics who detected in it a strain of the hubris that defined most political punditry in 2016. Journalists have identified dozens career-ending Trump scandals that turned out not to be career-ending, and at a glance, Davidson’s article reads as yet another entry in that genre.


But the article is more of a Rorschach test than a specific prediction of the future. Davidson does not define “end stage” in his article. The closest he comes is by comparing the inevitability of this political “end stage” to calamities like the 2008 financial crisis and the Iraq war, which were identifiable in advance by people who were paying close enough attention. A hopeful interpretation of his analysis is that Trump’s legal problems will become so all-consuming that support for him within his own political party will collapse, and Trump will resign or be impeached. But that’s not the only interpretation available, and the Iraq and Wall Street analogies don’t point in any obvious way to a happy ending. 

The Russia and Cohen investigations expose Trump and his campaign and his business organization to such serious legal jeopardy that it is difficult to fathom a future in which criminality and corruption aren’t the traits that define Trump’s presidency. That’s one way to conceive of Davdison’s “end stage.” But it doesn’t mean his presidency couldn’t limp along for years, hobbled by its legal woes. A zombie presidency, but a presidency nonetheless, with many mighty instruments of power still at his disposal. What we know to a near certainty is that as the heat increases, Trump will try to enlist more and more people into “this thing of his” as his only means of political survival—and perhaps as his only means of sparing those friends of his from justice.

He will extort support from the ranks of Republican officialdom, which may already be too tainted by allegiance to Trump to credibly sever ties with its criminal leader.

Most corrosively, he will conscript more and more of his supporters into the ethical netherworld of Trumpism, convincing millions of Americans to scoff at ethics and law, and serve instead as a human-political shield around him, so that he can’t be removed from office. This process would serve to normalize his gangster ethic across large swaths of the country, among a radicalized pro-Trump cohort that will be around to poison civic life in America long after Trump has exited the stage.

And the terrifying thing about it is he might succeed. Reaching the beginning of the end doesn’t imply that justice will prevail swiftly, or even that it will prevail at all. It only implies that Trump’s path to redemption is closed and the best he can do is hang on for dear life. The end stage of Trump’s presidency is upon us, but it isn’t one in which he ultimately loses. It may turn out to be one in which we all do.

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The guy has no concept of what the truth is.

When you are the boss of corporations as he has been, you are responsible to no-one. You don't have to justify your decisions.

Now he is responsible to an entire nation, his response is to lie and he does it badly because he is found out almost immediately he closes his mouth.

I watched a bit of the swearing-in of Mike Pompeo as Secretary of State the other day. How often have we heard him say that an appointee is super, super brilliant and will do a truly incredible job only for them to be sacked within a few months?

That would suggest that his appointees weren't super, super brilliant (which would mean him admitting he had erred) or that he was sacking them for a reason other than poor performance.

How he ran his companies was his own business. How he runs the country is everyone's business and he is unworthy of the position (which, to be fair, we said before he was elected).

 

   

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The stuff with the pornstar is fantastic. His 'fixer' paid her off. He has been denying the payment for weeks now, claims he knew nothing about it, then his new lawyer goes on national TV and confirms he did know, and that he did pay the 'fixer' back. Trump then goes to Twitter to say it's normal to do such things. Then goes back to denying it!

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9 hours ago, bute-killiefan said:

The stuff with the pornstar is fantastic. His 'fixer' paid her off. He has been denying the payment for weeks now, claims he knew nothing about it, then his new lawyer goes on national TV and confirms he did know, and that he did pay the 'fixer' back. Trump then goes to Twitter to say it's normal to do such things. Then goes back to denying it!

Sounds like a typical politician.

 

Nothing to see here. Move along. As the yanks who aren't left wing loonys and they will tell you he is doing a good job.

Markets up, unemployment down, peace in Korea.

 

Better than the previous incumbent for sure.

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12 hours ago, azertyuiop said:

 

Markets up, unemployment down, peace in Korea.

Shagged a hooker paid her off then denied it? Sounds like every other US president to me.

Behaved like a sexist bastard, fermented racial hatred and generally behaved like a total dickhead? Nope still sounds like atypical POTUS.

Displayed levels of IQ that would not get him accepted by th U S  military? Nope, still sounds like your average run of the mill US head of state.

In fact he has done nothing tho make him stand out as a particularly useless cretin so far but give him time.

 

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14 hours ago, azertyuiop said:

Sounds like a typical politician.

 

Nothing to see here. Move along. As the yanks who aren't left wing loonys and they will tell you he is doing a good job.

Markets up, unemployment down, peace in Korea.

 

Better than the previous incumbent for sure.

I bet you call folk libtards too

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2 hours ago, gdevoy said:

Shagged a hooker paid her off then denied it? Sounds like every other US president to me.

Behaved like a sexist bastard, fermented racial hatred and generally behaved like a total dickhead? Nope still sounds like atypical POTUS.

Displayed levels of IQ that would not get him accepted by th U S  military? Nope, still sounds like your average run of the mill US head of state.

In fact he has done nothing tho make him stand out as a particularly useless cretin so far but give him time.

 

Money laundering too. Don't forget the money laundering

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On ‎5‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 11:07 AM, azertyuiop said:

 

Nothing to see here. Move along. As the yanks who aren't left wing loonys and they will tell you he is doing a good job.

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If you are white and rich he is doing a great job otherwise not so much.

I am guessing that is fine with you though.

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56 minutes ago, Sandman396 said:

If you are white and rich he is doing a great job otherwise not so much.

Not sure I totally agree with that. There is still a fairly reasonable chance he will kick of WW III either in Korea or the Middle East or at the very least kick off a global trade war.

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46 minutes ago, gdevoy said:

Not sure I totally agree with that. There is still a fairly reasonable chance he will kick of WW III either in Korea or the Middle East or at the very least kick off a global trade war.

Neither of which will be a problem for rich white folks.

In fact they will probably turn a nice profit on the stock market as a result.

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1 hour ago, gdevoy said:

Not sure I totally agree with that. There is still a fairly reasonable chance he will kick of WW III either in Korea or the Middle East or at the very least kick off a global trade war.

If rich white folk's main concern from a Trump presidency is WW3, it tells you everything you need to know. 

 

There are American citizens being held by Immigration officials and held without trial for weeks on end. People who aren't Mexican or have any Mexican heritage, they just look a bit brown. Bad Hombres

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19 minutes ago, bute-killiefan said:

There are American citizens being held by Immigration officials and held without trial for weeks on end. People who aren't Mexican or have any Mexican heritage, they just look a bit brown. Bad Hombres

As with Brexit, it's what the electorate voted for.

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