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6 hours ago, gdevoy said:

A majority voted for a cretin with an ego the size of a planet to be president. Seems to me quite a few if them could benifits from a brain transplant.

Just to correct, a minority voted for a cretin with an ego the size of a planet to be president, as Clinton won the popular vote.

Carry on :)

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1 hour ago, gdevoy said:

The psychological phenomenon of illusory superiority was identified as a form of cognitive bias in Kruger and Dunning's 1999 study, "Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments".[1]The identification derived from the cognitive bias evident in the criminal case of McArthur Wheeler, who robbed banks while his face was covered with lemon juice, which he believed would make it invisible to the surveillance cameras. This belief was based on his misunderstanding of the chemical properties of lemon juice as an invisible ink.[2]

Gives me a wee giggle every time I read that!

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Actually I think the strain us beginning to show even on the Trumpet. Like Hancock in the UK he is totally out if his depth and what he needs to stand there and say is totally at odds with what he wants to say to get re-elected.

He wants to stand there and tell people to vote fir him because ge has the solution. He could promise to build a wall to keep criminal migrants out. He could start a trade war with the Chinese and teach those foreigners a thing or two. He could ban Muslims from comming into the USA because Muslims are terrorists. All of these things are what his core vote want to hear and he gas delivered. The economy was booming and re election seemed inevitable.

Now he needs to tell people that he ihas the solution to covid 19 and everybody can go back to work. But he cant because there is no solution. So the best ge can do is tell people that he is the best hope of finding a solution. But that's not true either.  So he decided to demonstrate some entrepreneurial out if the box thinking live on air. And it went south big time.

The bottom line is if you are an idiot it doesnt matter how loaded you are, eventually it will be impossible to cover up what an idiot you are.

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1 hour ago, Shropshire_killie said:

Not bothering with conference today as "not worth his time or effort". Poor diddums runs away while his country folk die. Did that during Vietnam war too. 

Same style of totally amoral politician as our own PM. Thought the virus gave him a platform for a daily election broadcast from now till November. Then he found out that it was simply not working for him as it only showed him up as the mindless cretin that he is. Best to keep his head below the parapet and let others take the flak.

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On 4/25/2020 at 10:52 AM, gdevoy said:

Now he needs to tell people that he ihas the solution to covid 19 and everybody can go back to work. But he cant because there is no solution.

I'm sure you know that a lot of states are "reopening", some of them to a level which even Trump finds foolhardy..

He is talking up the economy, predicting a strong recovery in Q3 and a fantastic Q4. This is wishful thinking, pie in the sky. Saying what he hopes will happen to bolster his re-election chances.

The truth, I fear, is that Americans will keep on dying because of his foolish rush to resart the economy. Far from recovering quickly, the economy is more likely to slump into recession with lockdowns being reimposed.

Common sense, and Trump's desperation, might well see the election being postponed.

 

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28 minutes ago, skygod said:

Common sense, and Trump's desperation, might well see the election being postponed.

Can't see that happening. 

For a start, Trump doesn't have the legal authority to postpone or cancel the 2020 election. It's up to the US Congress to decide when the election happens.

Also, the 20th Amendment states, "the terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January."

A President and VP who have not been re-elected have to leave office, and if there's no replacement, I think the incoming Congress could hold a 'contingent election' for President, decided by a vote of the House of Representatives.

I've a feeling the lawyers will be extremely busy but they'll need to find a way.

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5 hours ago, Scooter said:

Can't see that happening. 

For a start, Trump doesn't have the legal authority to postpone or cancel the 2020 election. It's up to the US Congress to decide when the election happens.

Also, the 20th Amendment states, "the terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January."

A President and VP who have not been re-elected have to leave office, and if there's no replacement, I think the incoming Congress could hold a 'contingent election' for President, decided by a vote of the House of Representatives.

I've a feeling the lawyers will be extremely busy but they'll need to find a way.

Normally the Speaker of the House would take over the position of President if the President and VP are unavailable .... except there would be no speaker due to the way the US runs their voting which means the Congress and Senate seats expire on January 3rd with one-third of the Senate is also up for re-election as well ... at the same time. 

There are provisions in the constitution for the electoral colleges to do the voting .... but some state laws do not allow this to happen.

 

If no elections are held at all then it would fall to the position of President Pro Tempore of the Senate ... a 'ceremonial' position held by the senior member of the majority party --the Republicans

BUT .... due to the seats retiring on Jan 3rd the majority will swing to the Democrats which would put Patrick Leahy in line for the gig.

 

But, as Jimmy Cricket would say ... there's more!!

The 17th Amendment allows state governors to name temporary senators ... but some states do not grant the power AND due to no election taking place so states might not have a governor or a deputy to name a temporary senator.

 

If the election doesn't take place then all hell would break loose ...

 

 

And they laughed at us over Brexit!!

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On 4/25/2020 at 5:52 AM, gdevoy said:

Actually I think the strain us beginning to show even on the Trumpet. Like Hancock in the UK he is totally out if his depth and what he needs to stand there and say is totally at odds with what he wants to say to get re-elected.

He wants to stand there and tell people to vote fir him because ge has the solution. He could promise to build a wall to keep criminal migrants out. He could start a trade war with the Chinese and teach those foreigners a thing or two. He could ban Muslims from comming into the USA because Muslims are terrorists. All of these things are what his core vote want to hear and he gas delivered. The economy was booming and re election seemed inevitable.

Now he needs to tell people that he ihas the solution to covid 19 and everybody can go back to work. But he cant because there is no solution. So the best ge can do is tell people that he is the best hope of finding a solution. But that's not true either.  So he decided to demonstrate some entrepreneurial out if the box thinking live on air. And it went south big time.

The bottom line is if you are an idiot it doesnt matter how loaded you are, eventually it will be impossible to cover up what an idiot you are.

It's quite incredible. All he has to do is let the experts talk, support it, thank the population for staying at home, but he just can't do it.

He lies about the rednecks protesting to re-open States, saying they are exercising social distancing (they aren't). He can't say he's against it, because they are funded by the same folk who fund him, and they are all waving Trump flags

Even the other day, his CMO says there is a real possibility of there being another spike of cases in Autumn, Trump goes up and reassures everyone that it won't happen.

He cannot control any of this, but his track record has always been 'I alone can fix this', and that has largely worked for his supporters, even though he has barely delivered on anything. He can't bully, threaten or Tweet this away. He can only deny reality and try to make 60,000 deaths seem like a victory

The longer this goes, the more unraveled he will become. He is up to his eyeballs on adderall, doesn't get to do his rallies, doesn't get to go to his golf courses. These were outlets that allowed him to have his arsed kissed. He doesn't have that, and his handling of this is seeing his poll number tank, so much so that he reportedly threatened to sue his campaign manager.

 

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2 hours ago, Fudger said:

The scariest thing of all is that the opposition are putting up a man who without question has some form of brain disease. 

It would be fair to say the field us not that strong. Kinda like our choice between Corbyn and Johnston. FFS, Neil Kinnock could have wiped the floor with both of them.

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20 minutes ago, gdevoy said:

It would be fair to say the field us not that strong. Kinda like our choice between Corbyn and Johnston. FFS, Neil Kinnock could have wiped the floor with both of them.

Neil Kinnock ffs, the mans been supping from every elite trough he could get for decades.

And it wasnt a choice between corbyn and Johnson  you and everyone in Scotland x

Could've voted SNP.

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16 minutes ago, Beaker71 said:

Neil Kinnock ffs, the mans been supping from every elite trough he could get for decades.

And it wasnt a choice between corbyn and Johnson  you and everyone in Scotland x

Could've voted SNP.

Actually it was a choice between Labour and the Tories, because unless the SNP chose to field candidates in England and Wales they couldn't win a majority under the current system. 

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20 minutes ago, Beaker71 said:

Neil Kinnock ffs, the mans been supping from every elite trough he could get for decades.

I wisnae advocating him as a good choice, just that he was a more able politician than either choice at the last election.

20 minutes ago, Beaker71 said:

And it wasnt a choice between corbyn and Johnson  you and everyone in Scotland x

Clearly you havenae quite got a firm grasp of the current political system. Following the last general election the prime minister was either going to be Johnston or Corbyn. That was the choice. There was no "none of the above" option. If everybody in Scotland had voted SNP the prime minister would still have ended up being Corbyn or Johnston. You have to pick one or the other. There is no think again button. When you think about it, it really is an absolutely s**t system. 

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1 hour ago, Wrangodog said:

Actually it was a choice between Labour and the Tories, because unless the SNP chose to field candidates in England and Wales they couldn't win a majority under the current system. 

Not in the UK but in Scotland 100% SNP changes the political landscape considerably.

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