Richie242KFC Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 We'll be comfortably up to 6th come the end of the season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Two 16 team leagues and the rest go into lower leagues that feed into that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 8 hours ago, historyman said: Without wishing to defend the incompetent shower who run our national game a comparison with the richest league in the world is not a good one. It's one of the most successful marketing campaigns in sport that has made the EPL the most successful league in the world. We don't have the population, the product or the marketing and commercial nous to get people from other countries interested in our game. Even great clubs with history like Ajax, Anderlecht and Benfica are just feeder clubs these days for the big leagues and are there to make up the numbers in the champions league. Yes, it's something we are completely incapable of, as the English are an uber marketing race with capabilities off the scale. We should just be happy with what we've got and toddle along like the wee diddy league and diddy team that we are. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 10 hours ago, cammy2012 said: Just pulled this off twitter from a Dundee fan lording over the Arabs. Probably reflects who youve played at home but Killie best attendance outside city teams. We give the Old Filth guys of 9,000 tickets each visit though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 That table all things considered should be the way going forward. You should always expect the city clubs to be ahead then us as top non city. I'd hope we'd get back to at least 4k home fans a game. Really impressive figures for Falkirk and St Mirren considering they have no twisted sister visits. County have a really high average for the area they come from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: We give the Old Filth guys of 9,000 tickets each visit though. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aumgn Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Us giving the OF so many tickets I'd wager would mean our true position in that table is some way below where we are. If the implication of the table is that we have a relatively high support, it's wrong! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Attendances so far ( not couting league cup) St Johnstone - 3935 Hearts - 5076 Celtic - 10069 Hamilton - 3706 Dundee - 3452 County - 3337 Hibs - 5005 Aberdeen - 4198 Partick - 4339 Motherwell - 4179 Rangers - 11490 County (cup) - 3595 Celtic - 10702 Brora (cup)-4278 Significant increase since Clarke came in. All home games bar county above 4000. County game gained 258 fans despite no season tickets being valid for second game. We're on the up. Let it continue. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aumgn Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Mclean07 said: Where do those numbers come from? You cannae just quote stats without a source! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, aumgn said: Us giving the OF so many tickets I'd wager would mean our true position in that table is some way below where we are. If the implication of the table is that we have a relatively high support, it's wrong! The table above excludes OF. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aumgn Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 I'm aware what the table claims. I asked where the table came from and you dingied my response 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) Using Presters figures and excluding Cup and OF I make it an average of 4,136. Edited February 13, 2018 by Wrangodog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Scooby_Doo said: Yes, it's something we are completely incapable of, as the English are an uber marketing race with capabilities off the scale. We should just be happy with what we've got and toddle along like the wee diddy league and diddy team that we are. It is not only English people who are making money from the EPL. It is an international behemoth whose turnover absolutely dwarves the Scottish game. If you think we can compete with that then you are living in dreamland. In global terms we are a tiny league that generates practically no interest beyond our borders. And if you want an even harsher truth, the interest abroad is generated almost exclusively by the old firm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aumgn Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Wrangodog said: Using Presters figures and excluding Cup and OF I make it an average of 4,136. Checking them looks like Presters are the reported gates, and indeed average is 4136, which seems much more sensible. Quite some way off 4729. Not that I'd want to in any way insinuate McLean would ever hit out with some poorly-informed guff, talk total shoite about it, then just plain ignore the discussion when asked to explain in some way what he's havering about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaucyJackPirate Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 minute ago, historyman said: It is not only English people who are making money from the EPL. It is an international behemoth whose turnover absolutely dwarves the Scottish game. If you think we can compete with that then you are living in dreamland. In global terms we are a tiny league that generates practically no interest beyond our borders. And if you want an even harsher truth, the interest abroad is generated almost exclusively by the old firm. Fair comment, but its doesn''t mean that you can't work and improve on those things. Or do you just accept defeat and moan that everything is s**te? Since the 90s we have fallen from 11th in the coefficient to 27th. Are you telling me that we can't generate more interest and money than the leagues in Azerbaijan, Belarus and Greece? Surely that is at least an attainable goal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, aumgn said: Not that I'd want to in any way insinuate McLean would ever hit out with some poorly-informed guff, talk total shoite about it, then just plain ignore the discussion when asked to explain in some way what he's havering about. Why break a habit of a lifetime, he does it on a daily basis! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 31 minutes ago, historyman said: It is not only English people who are making money from the EPL. It is an international behemoth whose turnover absolutely dwarves the Scottish game. If you think we can compete with that then you are living in dreamland. In global terms we are a tiny league that generates practically no interest beyond our borders. And if you want an even harsher truth, the interest abroad is generated almost exclusively by the old firm. I'm not talking about competing with the English Premiership, I'm talking about their methods for getting people interested in the 'product'. It took a good few years for Sky to get the EPL to where it is now. Often people here moan about them saying it's 'the greatest league in the World', when it isn't, but that's what marketing is. They wouldn't have got very far by telling people that the EPL was a 'competitive league'. In Scotland, we're in sharp contrast. We have a TV deal predicated on four fixtures, and even when one of those teams goes bust, or even when those viewing figures drop, the response is to prop up those two teams even further. In terms of entertainment, I've watched a few non Killie Scottish games which have been good to watch. They're certainly better than Stoke vs Burnley, but no-one from the Scottish sports media or the football authorities will tell you that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1el Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Rome wasn't built in a day, and it has been said many times the mess MJ created with no planning/lack of community involvement etc. will take a while to recover from but we are definitely heading in the right direction, we've had more community involvement in the last 6mths than the last 3yrs to that! It feels like the 1st time in forever fans are excited to see us play, I was going to games myself the past few years, I now have 3 extra going with me regularly. The article from Billy Bowie is exactly what you want to hear and see being done, a businessman with killie at heart who has some ideas to move the club forward 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, aumgn said: Checking them looks like Presters are the reported gates, and indeed average is 4136, which seems much more sensible. Quite some way off 4729. Not that I'd want to in any way insinuate McLean would ever hit out with some poorly-informed guff, talk total shoite about it, then just plain ignore the discussion when asked to explain in some way what he's havering about. Twitter " inside the SPFL" and Facebook, I think from same source as OP. Even when I'm posting figures in a good light I get it in the neck. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aumgn Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 You get it in the neck cos they're patently wrong and you try and be a smart arse about it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbk Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Totally agree with you small steps at a time to repair the damage inflicted on our club both on and off the park over the last six or seven years and at least we have the right people leading us to more positive times both on and off the field let's give them our total support and stick together and enjoy the journey! On another point how many really good games have the money orientated greedy English football teams served up not very many and a lot of them are over hyped and believe their own press! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 On an unrelated note, @Lroy is it possible to post HTML on these boards? Is that switched on? I tried to do an HTML table earlier but it just put the code out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lroy Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, Scooby_Doo said: On an unrelated note, @Lroy is it possible to post HTML on these boards? Is that switched on? I tried to do an HTML table earlier but it just put the code out. I can't see the majority of the settings, I just have a big red button that gives out warnings to Brianstorm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Can you do it in HTML though? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Lroy said: I can't see the majority of the settings, I just have a big red button that gives out warnings to Brianstorm. Going to go in to the guts of the system and give you all the green points for this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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