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I dont normally get really irritated with the media and the big club bias, I just accepted it. However the whole incredulity of killie hiring Steve Clark is really pissing me off. From Willie Miller saying we shouldnt be winning at Ibrox, to being linked with Ranger (1st time), and then Scotland and now Rangers again, hes not even been here 6 months. No other manager has had such a concerted effort to get him into a different job, Allan Preston complained for weeks after McLeish was appointed that the SFA should have got Clarke. The media claim they crave a competitive league, people even complain that its up to the other clubs to challenge Rangers and Celtic. However once a team gets any type of success and starts to challenge they start their pimping campaign to maintain the balance in Scottish football. The envy from the Aberdeen and Rangers media is staggering, and gets worse every time SSC gets a result over the OF. Rangers media had fans claiming the board should have forcible held SSC and the board hostage till SSC agreed to be manager. They just cant understand why he would even want to be manager at Kilmarnock. Sportsound had already planned out Clarke's career path and when he should take over at Rangers. What makes the whole thing more galling is that Clarke has been chilling for around a year and was available for Rangers and Scotland when they had job vacancies, like he said before he is here for a reason, the media just dont understand what that reason is, and their blindness shows them for what they really are. 

To make it even worse there was never any indication from Rangers, the SFA or anyone else that they even approached Clarke, this is just the media exerting their influence.

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3 hours ago, thesnowman21 said:

I dont normally get really irritated with the media and the big club bias, I just accepted it. However the whole incredulity of killie hiring Steve Clark is really pissing me off. From Willie Miller saying we shouldnt be winning at Ibrox, to being linked with Ranger (1st time), and then Scotland and now Rangers again, hes not even been here 6 months. No other manager has had such a concerted effort to get him into a different job, Allan Preston complained for weeks after McLeish was appointed that the SFA should have got Clarke. The media claim they crave a competitive league, people even complain that its up to the other clubs to challenge Rangers and Celtic. However once a team gets any type of success and starts to challenge they start their pimping campaign to maintain the balance in Scottish football. The envy from the Aberdeen and Rangers media is staggering, and gets worse every time SSC gets a result over the OF. Rangers media had fans claiming the board should have forcible held SSC and the board hostage till SSC agreed to be manager. They just cant understand why he would even want to be manager at Kilmarnock. Sportsound had already planned out Clarke's career path and when he should take over at Rangers. What makes the whole thing more galling is that Clarke has been chilling for around a year and was available for Rangers and Scotland when they had job vacancies, like he said before he is here for a reason, the media just dont understand what that reason is, and their blindness shows them for what they really are. 

To make it even worse there was never any indication from Rangers, the SFA or anyone else that they even approached Clarke, this is just the media exerting their influence.

Absolutely spot on, well said

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And so it begins..

Joy at Rangers triumph tempered by realisation Kilmarnock may not hold onto Steve Clarke for Kirk Broadfoot

AN inevitable consequence of one of Scotland’s smaller clubs enjoying success on a limited budget is that larger and richer rivals start casting envious glances towards their players and manager.

So it was understandable that Kirk Broadfoot’s happiness at Kilmarnockcontinuing their remarkable run under Steve Clarke and defeating his former club Rangers at Ibrox on Sunday was tempered by that realisation.

Broadfoot, the former St Mirren, Blackpool and Rotherham United centre half who has been around for a while and knows how the game works, appreciates holding on to Clarke and team mates like Jordan Jones this summer will be challenging.

The win at the weekend stretched the Ayrshireman’s unbeaten run against the two main Glasgow clubs since he was appointed back in October to five – his side has beaten and drawn with Celticand beaten Rangers twice and drawn with them once.

That, and the fact the Rugby Park club have now lost just once in regulation time in 19 games, will not have gone unnoticed in boardrooms both in this country and further afield.

Asked if Kilmarnock could do even better under the former West Brom and Reading manager next term, Broadfoot said: “If we can keep hold of him, yes. If we can keep him then who knows what next season can bring.

“I think though we will have a wee bit of interest in our players if we keep this run going, there will be a few guys getting a few bids come the summer. But if we can keep hold of the gaffer and he does stay, if we can get a pre-season under him, it’s only a bright future for Kilmarnock.”

Clarke himself stated that he had run out of adjectives to praise his group of players, of whom Jones and Youssouf Mulumbu were once again the standouts, after a victory which increased their chances of securing a top six place.

However, Broadfoot, who worked under Walter Smith during the five years that he spent as a player at Ibrox, rates the former Chelsea, West Ham and Liverpool assistant among the best coaches he has ever played under and knows how much credit he must take.

His training is second to none,” he said. “He sets us up game related. Even after the cup game against Aberdeen on Tuesday, when we went into extra-time, we were back in working on our shape towards this game. It’s all credit to the manager. The gaffer is up there with the best I’ve worked with.”

One Kilmarnock player who is unlikely to depart in the close season is striker Kris Boyd. The 34-year-old took his tally for the 2017/18 campaign to 20 with a close-range strike in the 55th minute. He is a strong contender for the Player of the Year awards which will soon be doled out.

“People just come to expect 20-goals from Kris Boyd because he done it for good knows how many years,” said Broadfoot. “But I think he’ll say himself he’s a wee bit surprised he’s up there as he was going to chuck it.

“He was shouting in the dressing room that was his 100th tap-in. But what can you say about him? He’s done it for the last 15-years. If we create chances he’ll score them.”

The same cannot be said of Rangers. Alfredo Morelos missed a late sitter in the 3-2 defeat to Celtic eight days ago and at the weekend Russell Martin spurned two gilt-edged opportunities. He headed wide in the first-half and struck the crossbar in the second.

But Graeme Murty’s side, as Martin admitted afterwards, had once again failed to deliver. They must do better if they are to beat Aberdeen, who are now just two points behind with a game in hand, to second spot.

I’ve had the two best chances of the day,” he said. “One of them has got to go in. I thought the second one was in, but it’s hit the bar and the post and did everything but go in. It’s disappointing. But it was one of those games when we weren’t quite at it.

“We didn’t really create much compared to recent weeks. It was the first time in a long time we didn’t hit the levels we have recently, and that’s the frustrating thing.”

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I'm not sure if it is available online, but Chick Young was suggesting that Rangers tap Clarke up. Absolutely outrageous.

I think part of what has happened is that they perhaps assumed he was out of the price range of these clubs. If Killie can afford him, then Rangers must be able to. 

Not realising, or bothering to investigate why he won't go there. 

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The clowns in the media particularly are really getting on my tits. Is there a rule that says a "wee" team (even though we are not really that wee in overall terms) should not be able to recruit and hold on to a good manager?

It would be hilarious for all those Aberdeen and THE Rangers clowns on BBC Sportsound if SC stays, but one place he definitely won't be going is Ibrox for reasons apparent from "ra peepel"'s rantings from page 12 onwards on their version of CBeebies.

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Hugh Keevins on Saturday Super Scoreboard: "The job Steve Clark has done is such that he won't be there long."

I've listened to Tom English et.al criticising Killie in the early part of the season and previously for being a club on the slide and the likes of Kenny McIntyre asking, "What do Killie bring to the league?" Also Graham Spiers implying Falkirk are a bigger club than Killie. 

When Killie get their house in order they want to bring it to and end pronto...wower of shankers! 

Nobody apart from Steve Clarke knows what he wants to do; the rest of us are just second guessing. 

It would be great if we could keep him, obviously. Not just because he's a very good manager but also to listen to the media-mouthpieces having a meltdown under the guise of impartiality. 

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23 minutes ago, Bobby14 said:

The fact that we are even having this discussion shows that deep down, in our heart of hearts we know that it’ll be hard to hold on to Clarke if we keep up performances and results like that of the last few months. The media are only stating the obvious. 

In an open market, we couldn't have afforded him in the first place.

This is not an open market. The media don't get that.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Bobby14 said:

The fact that we are even having this discussion shows that deep down, in our heart of hearts we know that it’ll be hard to hold on to Clarke if we keep up performances and results like that of the last few months. The media are only stating the obvious. 

As @Candygram for mongo says, only Steve Clarke knows what his plans are. 

It will be difficult. Would he risk earning 10-20 grand a week at, for example, Fulham or Leeds over three years, when his stock could fall dramatically with one bad season in the SPL?

 

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3 hours ago, Scooby_Doo said:

I'm not sure if it is available online, but Chick Young was suggesting that Rangers tap Clarke up. Absolutely outrageous.

It's on yesterday's Sportsound podcast, so I'd guess that yeah it's available online. Honestly couldn't believe my ears when I heard him saying that.

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Lets just hope he's made his £ and doesn't feel the need to head South, to be honest in the current climate (£ aside) you'd be mad to take a job in the championship/bottom half premiership, your 3/4 games away from the boot or an investor coming in and clearing house.

I also believe Lord Alex will be getting shaped as the man for the future,

Sportsounds/Clyde 1/ old firm scottish media - you couldnt make it up listening to these clowns, willie miller who couldnt manage a piss up in a brewery talking as if hes some oracle of understanding the game, billy dodds, and guys like alan preston, give us peace!

This country's media is obsessed with pandering to the old firm and always has been, much to the detriment of the league as a whole.

I said in another thread in an ideal world I'd listen to the guys from podcasts such as Burst Baw / The Terrace etc. do a live open all mics with rights to the games, they are knowledgeable about the whole league not just the old firm and hopefully with the end of the printed press folk can go and find their own media outlets in the future.

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6 hours ago, robkil said:

It's on yesterday's Sportsound podcast, so I'd guess that yeah it's available online. Honestly couldn't believe my ears when I heard him saying that.

Chick Young - "If I were the chairman of Rangers, I think I'd have been on the phone to him last night trying....Well, you can't tap up because that never happens in the modern game (laughter)....go through the right approaches to make Stevie Clarke (unintelligible).

"They've not been very good at that this season, Rangers, trying to get a manager from other clubs (more laughter).

"(muttering) it would be a simple thing to do in Scottish football, would you not just find out quietly if Stevie Clarke was interested in going to Rangers then going about the business of trying to get him there?"

Richard Gordon - "I thought I heard on Off The Ball last night that Brendan Rodgers was going to Arsenal and Stevie Clarke taking over at Celtic. So he may have a choice to make!"

Chick Young - "Exactly - so they want to move quickly and get him in."

 

I wonder if the club could take any official action against the BBC. The BBC could say that it's simply two broadcasters speculating about what might happen - voicing what might very well be going on in reality.

The one person who could do something is Clarke by coming out and saying once again that he has no intention of managing another Scottish club and that the endless speculation is disrespectful to Kilmarnock FC, unsettling to the players who have done so well this season and irritating to him and the Kilmarnock supporters.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, skygod said:

Chick Young - "If I were the chairman of Rangers, I think I'd have been on the phone to him last night trying....Well, you can't tap up because that never happens in the modern game (laughter)....go through the right approaches to make Stevie Clarke (unintelligible).

"They've not been very good at that this season, Rangers, trying to get a manager from other clubs (more laughter).

"(muttering) it would be a simple thing to do in Scottish football, would you not just find out quietly if Stevie Clarke was interested in going to Rangers then going about the business of trying to get him there?"

Richard Gordon - "I thought I heard on Off The Ball last night that Brendan Rodgers was going to Arsenal and Stevie Clarke taking over at Celtic. So he may have a choice to make!"

Chick Young - "Exactly - so they want to move quickly and get him in."

 

I wonder if the club could take any official action against the BBC. The BBC could say that it simply two broadcasters speculating about what might happen - voicing what might very well be going on in reality.

The one person who could do something is Clarke by coming out and saying once again that he has no intention of managing another Scottish club and that the endless speculation is disrespectful to Kilmarnock FC, unsettling to the players who have done so well this season and irritating to him and the Kilmarnock supporters.

 

 

He has said that he wont be leaving for any other Scottish club at the AGM. These clowns hear only what they want to. 

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13 minutes ago, cammy_boy said:

He has said that he wont be leaving for any other Scottish club at the AGM. These clowns hear only what they want to. 

Basically, he is saying that Kilmarnock are not the only Scottish club who can't afford him. But the meeja types are not hearing what he is saying.

Only Steve Clarke knows why Steve Clarke gets out of bed in the morning, not Chick Young nor Wullie Millar.

Here's a thing, if you secure a manager because of the large cash sum you are waving around then you probably have the wrong man for the job. That is why Murty was probably a better choice for Geyskull than Caxino.

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The one good thing about all of this is that the meedja are discussing all things Killie in a positive light which has not been the norm for a good few years .

SSC should perhaps come out with his AGM statement again but this won’t stop the speculation as the lazy journalists would then have to do due diligence on another topic which they almost never do in the 1st place . They did report on the AGM and must have heard his assertion but that won’t stop them blathering banalities . It panders to the old firm supporters for them to be linked with someone/thing successful 

I’d like to think SSC is just watching these idiots spout this rubbish and he is quietly giggling to himself at there collective ignorance. They have tried on numerous occasions to get an outrageous or disrespectful comment out of him and they have singularly failed miserably because he’s far too intelligent to get caught out by them 

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36 minutes ago, skygod said:

 

The one person who could do something is Clarke by coming out and saying once again that he has no intention of managing another Scottish club and that the endless speculation is disrespectful to Kilmarnock FC, unsettling to the players who have done so well this season and irritating to him and the Kilmarnock supporters.

 

 

Why should he ? He has already stated he is not going to another Scottish club and is here to do a job. End of

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7 minutes ago, Gaffer said:

Why should he ? He has already stated he is not going to another Scottish club and is here to do a job. End of

I didn't say he should, I said he could.

As others have said, the muppets in the media seem to have selective hearing loss.

 

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