piffer Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 A young man who has seen the bigger picture and deciding to try his luck abroad despite playing for one of the twisted sisters fairly regularly and being in the goldfish bowl. Refreshing to see a young player take this chance and not stick with what’s regarded locally as big time. Rangers defender David Bates has agreed a four-year deal with Hamburg, the German club has announced. The 21-year-old, who has made 17 appearances this term, has not played since last month's Old Firm derby. Bates, who went off after 15 minutes with an ankle injury, will move as a free agent at the end of the season. Johannes Spors, HSV scouting director, said: "David brings a combination of height, speed, mentality and accountability." Spors added: "He is a down-to-earth guy who wants to actively develop his career and work hard for it." Bates joined Rangers from Raith Rovers in the summer of 2016, initially on loan, making the deal permanent in January of last year. Hamburg, the only club to have featured in the top division in every season since the Bundesliga's creation in 1963, are in 17th place, five points behind Mainz 05, who occupy the relegation play-off spot, with five games remaining. The club survived successive relegation play-offs in 2014 and 2015. Bates, who had been an ever-present in Graeme Murty's starting line-up since the turn of the year, was injured while trying to stop Tom Rogic scoring in his side's 3-2 defeat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merk Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Lets not downplay it guys mkay? Graeme Murty remained coy when he was asked about Bates’ contract situation last month. He said: “Talks with David Bates are ongoing but we will keep this information all in-house until we have anything to share. “There is money to be made elsewhere for our players but let us not downplay the scale of this club and what it means to play for Rangers.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Merk said: Lets not downplay it guys mkay? Graeme Murty remained coy when he was asked about Bates’ contract situation last month. He said: “Talks with David Bates are ongoing but we will keep this information all in-house until we have anything to share. “There is money to be made elsewhere for our players but let us not downplay the scale of this club and what it means to play for Rangers.” Good on him going to a bigger club better league and the chance to broaden his horizon rather than in the goldfish of scottish football 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Good for him! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azert Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, killie1961 said: Good on him going to a bigger club better league and the chance to broaden his horizon rather than in the goldfish of scottish football Winging there way to bundesliga 2 at the moment. However Hamburg are the masters at great escapes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz of the 20/20 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Following Liam Henderson’s example, quite refreshing to see rather than wasting away at Old Firm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, azertyuiop said: Winging there way to bundesliga 2 at the moment. However Hamburg are the masters at great escapes Never a truer word said 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted April 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Some of the reactions on twitter are class. Ginger Judas seems to be a popular new name for the lad. Good to see the sevconians maintaining their class 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Well done son. Anyone that leaves that place on their own terms, especially to go to a better place, should be saluted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel4 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 12 hours ago, Gaz of the 20/20 said: Following Liam Henderson’s example, quite refreshing to see rather than wasting away at Old Firm. Don't think he was quite wasting away, he played every game this year until he got injured. But good on him, I don't think enough British players take a chance like that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Hamburg have struggled past few seasons but great opportunity for him. Not to clever on the ball but not bad at defending. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LH31 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 He doesnt kid on he's a baller - just boots the baw as hard as he can away from his goal. Something to be said for a defender who simply wants to defend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Strange how he wasn’t included in the Scotland squad recently as he has moved to Hamburg who are a massive club. Will we expect to see him in soon ? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumack Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Scotland managers don't know the way to Rugby Park never mind to Germany for a scouting mission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 56 minutes ago, stumack said: Scotland managers don't know the way to Rugby Park never mind to Germany for a scouting mission. Mark McGhee knows his way there. Maybe they'll send him on scouting trips. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bute-killiefan Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 22 hours ago, piffer said: Some of the reactions on twitter are class. Ginger Judas seems to be a popular new name for the lad. Good to see the sevconians maintaining their class Calling players who leave them 'Traitors' or 'Judas' is one of the funniest things about old firm fans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 15 hours ago, bute-killiefan said: Calling players who leave them 'Traitors' or 'Judas' is one of the funniest things about old firm fans Graeme Murty tells Rangers rebel David Bates he's chosen greed over improving his game The defender will join Hamburg next season after Rangers refused to meet his wage demands. Graeme Murty has told David Bates he’s put greed ahead of the development of his game by signing for Hamburg. The Rangers boss has taken a pop at the defender and his agent, Grant Smith, for “excessive” wage demands the club could and would not match. Record Sport revealed yesterday how Rangers refused to bow to a contract demand for around £7,500-a-week for the rookie starlet, who has played just 25 first team games. However, the relegation-threatened Bundesliga club have handed him a four-year deal and he will move to Germany when his current contract expires in the summer. Murty, preparing his side for tomorrow’s derby showndown, said: “Let’s not beat around the bush, David has gone for more money than we can offer him and he could be playing in Bundesliga II next year. “Hopefully they don’t go down but he is going for more money than we can give him here. That is the reality of it. So take emotion out of the situation, take the fact he is a Rangers supporter out of the situation, there is a load of money on the table. Extrapolate out of that what you will. “We offered him a contract that we felt was good enough to see him stay. I am disappointed more than surprised that he hasn’t accepted it. “The economic reality is they made an offer we can’t match. Their (Bates and his agent’s) demands for parity on that weren’t something we were prepared to match. What he wanted was excessive and it wasn’t something we could or were prepared to pay. “I felt he could be an international footballer by remaining at Rangers and I put that to him. He has lots to work on and develop but I feel he could do that here. Rangers is a great platform to showcase his talents. “He has decided to go down another route and we respect that, but it’s disappointing.” Murty insists Bates, who’s out of tomorrow’s Scottish Cup semi through injury, will remain part of his first team plans between now and the end of the season. But he took a swipe at Smith and Hamburg for revealing details of the deal before the biggest games of his club’s season. He added: “As a club, we would have been better served if we waited until after the semi-final to have that out in the public domain. That’s what we asked for but unfortunately the people we are dealing with did not respect that.” (Daily Record) Hilarious. Rangers have such a great record in developing young talent. “I felt he could be an international footballer by remaining at Rangers" sadly that part is probably true but says more about Scotland selection policy than his development as a player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 They're not great losers are they? The statement after the Hibs cup final, the McInnes statement and now this. The boy was able to quadruple his wages, and for Murty to highlight how close they are to relegation is very poor indeed. Perhaps Bates' agent could point out how close they are to going bust thanks to Dodgy Dave and his Cold Shoulder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Prahakillie said: Graeme Murty tells Rangers rebel David Bates he's chosen greed over improving his game The defender will join Hamburg next season after Rangers refused to meet his wage demands. Graeme Murty has told David Bates he’s put greed ahead of the development of his game by signing for Hamburg. The Rangers boss has taken a pop at the defender and his agent, Grant Smith, for “excessive” wage demands the club could and would not match. Record Sport revealed yesterday how Rangers refused to bow to a contract demand for around £7,500-a-week for the rookie starlet, who has played just 25 first team games. However, the relegation-threatened Bundesliga club have handed him a four-year deal and he will move to Germany when his current contract expires in the summer. Murty, preparing his side for tomorrow’s derby showndown, said: “Let’s not beat around the bush, David has gone for more money than we can offer him and he could be playing in Bundesliga II next year. “Hopefully they don’t go down but he is going for more money than we can give him here. That is the reality of it. So take emotion out of the situation, take the fact he is a Rangers supporter out of the situation, there is a load of money on the table. Extrapolate out of that what you will. “We offered him a contract that we felt was good enough to see him stay. I am disappointed more than surprised that he hasn’t accepted it. “The economic reality is they made an offer we can’t match. Their (Bates and his agent’s) demands for parity on that weren’t something we were prepared to match. What he wanted was excessive and it wasn’t something we could or were prepared to pay. “I felt he could be an international footballer by remaining at Rangers and I put that to him. He has lots to work on and develop but I feel he could do that here. Rangers is a great platform to showcase his talents. “He has decided to go down another route and we respect that, but it’s disappointing.” Murty insists Bates, who’s out of tomorrow’s Scottish Cup semi through injury, will remain part of his first team plans between now and the end of the season. But he took a swipe at Smith and Hamburg for revealing details of the deal before the biggest games of his club’s season. He added: “As a club, we would have been better served if we waited until after the semi-final to have that out in the public domain. That’s what we asked for but unfortunately the people we are dealing with did not respect that.” (Daily Record) Hilarious. Rangers have such a great record in developing young talent. “I felt he could be an international footballer by remaining at Rangers" sadly that part is probably true but says more about Scotland selection policy than his development as a player. John B McEachran would have been an international footballer if he’d gone to Rangers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz of the 20/20 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 On 13/04/2018 at 7:35 AM, Nigel4 said: Don't think he was quite wasting away, he played every game this year until he got injured. But good on him, I don't think enough British players take a chance like that I meant in general, not him personally. Their whole attitude the seasons in the lower leagues showed their attitude to the youth set-up, and it’s hardly got much better with signing the likes of Kranjcar and Senderos in favour of playing youth players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 As if players moving for money was a new thing. OK when it is to their advantage. How many top flight players did sevco offer more to go to bottom tier? Their development and Scotland chances didn't matter then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Rangers must have been insulted at a young player with a decent future and first team experience asking for £7.5k a week. Goes completely against their pay structure. He should have asked for more and he’d have got it. Washed up Kevin Kyle probably got that plus expenses in the lower leagues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz of the 20/20 Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Prahakillie said: “I felt he could be an international footballer by remaining at Rangers" sadly that part is probably true but says more about Scotland selection policy than his development as a player. And probably 100% correct, Ian Black was in Scotland squad playing with Rangers in League Two. Jason Cummings in the squad when wouldn’t have been if still with Forest. It’s a complete joke to be honest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey Repatriated Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Blacks call up still one of the most shocking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 According to one of their hideous websites he is on less than £1k per week and they only offered him £1.5k. He wanted at least £5k which is still well below many of the diddys they have. Hamburg are giving him £5k basic plus bonuses. Seems like an easy decision and there is no doubt he will benefit as a player and a person. Phil Mac has a good article on his blog - which admittedly isn't the most impartial thing in the web and can be a bit hit and miss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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