RP "one of three worst pitches"

[Nobody]

 

And I think he did - David (?) Roxburgh, was it?

That’s probably when the rot set in. 

Souness/ Rangers RIP definitely got their man, but I don't remember the name.

With no sheep, no wee red tractor, and Gus Hollas and his shady connections into the global sand supply industry things then went steadily downhill.

[Nobody]

 

I'm pretty sure we also won on the artificial surface at Annfield, @carpetfitter, and played very well. Jim Fleeting was managing us by then. I think we won 3-0, if I remember correctly.

I played on that surface once when I lived in Stirling. It was like playing on concrete.

We won 1-0 on the plastic. Peter Curran scored in first minute and we endured a siege for the remaining 89. It was on a beautifiul sunny early spring day. Possibly 1989 or 1990

[Nobody]

 

Polls like this are meaningless as they don't take account of prejudice.

Tell David Cameron that...

[gdevoy]

From the BBC:

Les Gray, the Hamilton vice-chairman, has branded opponents of artificial pitches "dinosaurs" after the 3G surface at the Superseal Stadium was voted the worst in the country.

The old head in the sand approach clearly. People don't like playing on plastic, it doesn't matter how much abuse you fire at them it wont change their minds.

[Nobody]

 

From the BBC:

Les Gray, the Hamilton vice-chairman, has branded opponents of artificial pitches "dinosaurs" after the 3G surface at the Superseal Stadium was voted the worst in the country.

The old head in the sand approach clearly. People don't like playing on plastic, it doesn't matter how much abuse you fire at them it wont change their minds.

He should have stuck to the old Tiger Feet

[Wrangodog]

Or, Lonely this Christmas. 

[PillieKie]

Hamilton have just announced that they are laying a new artificial pitch. 

[casual observer]

And spending £750k on it!!! Ah well that guarantees us worst surface in next summers survey results. One more season then fingers crossed a return to grass, hybrid seems prohibitively expensive. 

[Wrangodog]

 

And spending £750k on it!!! Ah well that guarantees us worst surface in next summers survey results. One more season then fingers crossed a return to grass, hybrid seems prohibitively expensive. 

Hearts are spending nearly £1m on a hybrid pitch, so for £250,000 more Hamilton could do the same thing. I know which one I would rather have. Maybe the maintenance costs are far greater for hybrid.

[casual observer]

Or the cost of training all their teams elsewhere is - Hertz have their own training base so not a consideration for them. 

[Secret Squirrel]

The plastic pitch should be kept till we have the money to install a high quality pitch that we can properly maintain. With us building the new training ground in the next 18 months I struggle to see how we could afford to pay for such a pitch.   

[Prahakillie]

 

The plastic pitch should be kept till we have the money to install a high quality pitch that we can properly maintain. With us building the new training ground in the next 18 months I struggle to see how we could afford to pay for such a pitch.   

future Champions League income. 

[Wrangodog]

 

Or the cost of training all their teams elsewhere is - Hertz have their own training base so not a consideration for them. 

“We average 54 games a season here on our Desso GrassMaster pitch, plus training sessions, (...) corporate events and music concerts. (...) Our Desso GrassMaster pitch handles it perfectly.”
Dan Duffy, Head Groundsman Liberty Stadium and IOG Groundsman of the Year

 

 

[Prahakillie]

 

“We average 54 games a season here on our Desso GrassMaster pitch, plus training sessions, (...) corporate events and music concerts. (...) Our Desso GrassMaster pitch handles it perfectly.”
Dan Duffy, Head Groundsman Liberty Stadium and IOG Groundsman of the Year

 

 

Swansea City don't train at the stadium. 

[Wrangodog]

 

Swansea City don't train at the stadium. 

He didn‘t specify football, the Ospreys rugby union team also play there.

[Prahakillie]

 

He didn‘t specify football, the Ospreys rugby union team also play there.

They don't train there either. 

I think he was referring to open training sessions, of which there might have been one or two. 

[Wrangodog]

 

They don't train there either. 

I think he was referring to open training sessions, of which there might have been one or two. 

I am quoting what the groundsman said, presumably you have first hand information on how many training sessions take place.

I‘ve seen Swansea play two home games against Spurs and Liverpool when the rain was sheeting down with an Ospreys game sandwiched in between when it was also pouring and I was astonished how good the pitch was at Swansea's next home game. 

[Prahakillie]

 

I am quoting what the groundsman said, presumably you have first hand information on how many training sessions take place.

I‘ve seen Swansea play two home games against Spurs and Liverpool when the rain was sheeting down with an Ospreys game sandwiched in between when it was also pouring and I was astonished how good the pitch was at Swansea's next home game. 

I am not saying it is bad, and hosting both football and rugby without problems over a season is impressive but it is nowhere near the usage that Killie and Hamilton are getting from their artificial pitches. 

[carpetfitter]

 

He should have stuck to the old Tiger Feet

Still, the pitch won’t get Mud-dy

[Wrangodog]

 

I am not saying it is bad, and hosting both football and rugby without problems over a season is impressive but it is nowhere near the usage that Killie and Hamilton are getting from their artificial pitches. 

Sadly, you are probably right. I‘ll just need to win the lottery.

[casual observer]

They also get significantly more days and hours of sunshine in South Wales than the West of Scotland, but its good to see how durable hybrid surfaces are. 

[RAG]

 

They also get significantly more days and hours of sunshine in South Wales than the West of Scotland, but its good to see how durable hybrid surfaces are. 

But how durable are they?  How often does the million pound hybrid mat surface the grass grows through need replaced, like any artificial surface does after use?  The upkeep on a hybrid pitch could be well beyond what a club our size could afford and a big drain on resources if you got relegated. I'm surprised Hearts can afford to pay for it.  Is the best surface available but arguably a complete waste of money for a club our size.   You could spend the million quid better elsewhere.

[carpetfitter]

 

But how durable are they?  How often does the million pound hybrid mat surface the grass grows through need replaced, like any artificial surface does after use?  The upkeep on a hybrid pitch could be well beyond what a club our size could afford and a big drain on resources if you got relegated. I'm surprised Hearts can afford to pay for it.  Is the best surface available but arguably a complete waste of money for a club our size.   You could spend the million quid better elsewhere.

Jambos bottom six next season - s**te team (look who they’re signing) on a great playing surface.

[RAG]

 

Jambos bottom six next season - s**te team (look who they’re signing) on a great playing surface.

Hearts don't concede enough goals to be a bottom 6 team.  Also formidable at home - usually!  Not saying they'll do much better than mid table but they do have a few cracking young players and a decent defence, maybe the best defence outside Celtic. I reckon Aberdeen for the bottom 6.  Too many players on loan are now gone.  They've weakest squad out top 6 at present now seasons over.

The Jambos have quality players at the back and up front.  If we hypothetically resigned Mulumbu then added Lafferty and Berra, we'd challenge for the title IMO.

Edited June 6, 2018 by RAG

[Wrangodog]

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