LH31 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 I dont see him staying in Jan. Think we'll move him on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalkillie Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 If he continues to play, can you imagine the disharmony (meltdown) when he has a bad game or doesn't look interested?? Likely to affect team spirit badly too. In the reserves for me. Get someone else in or allow others the opportunity. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a shady deal that prevents him playing against sevco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee_Eck1979 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 He has absolutely no control over what is printed and tweeted by the media. He has kept a dignified silence every time this matter has arisen, he was even honest enough to admit it affected his form in the past. He signed a contract with us and he allowed it to run down, if we had been sharper we should have increased his contract much earlier than we attempted to but we now pay the price. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.r Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Souleycouley93 said: He has made his bed now he shall lie in it. The way he has dealt with it by allowing it to be made common knowledge is disrespectful to our club. He could have had conversations behind closed doors and dismissed it as speculation till the summer. He instead has gone public about it and has caused disharmony at his current employers. I don't care if he is or isn't best the player in the team, he doesn't play again for me. Totally lacks in class and I think fans are entitled to be upset with the way he has gone about this. Announcing you are moving to a rival team who we play next and are competing with at top end of league is ridiculous. Conflict of interest for him now. I sincerely hope we can get him out the door as soon as possible. Can't trust him to be fully committed especially if he gets injured and clause of another medical in June is involved. Does he play against rangers and beat them and potentially harm his new clubs chances of winning the title or stopping ten in a row. Pretty sure it's nothing to do with him that it's became common knowledge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, capitalkillie said: If he continues to play, can you imagine the disharmony (meltdown) when he has a bad game or doesn't look interested?? Likely to affect team spirit badly too. In the reserves for me. Get someone else in or allow others the opportunity. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a shady deal that prevents him playing against sevco The deal isn’t with us. It’s between JJ and Sevco. He’s under contract with us so we can do as we see fit. Whether he was to come out before the Rangers game and say he mentally wasn’t in the right place is a different story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepie Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Wouldn’t trust him to be fully committed to Killie, especially playing Rangers in the league next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baz Posted January 5, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wee_Eck1979 said: we should have increased his contract much earlier than we attempted to but we now pay the price. Sorry but not wearing that. We've been trying to increase his contract for over a year. He's had numerous offers, one of which would have made him the top paid player at the club. The current situation is entirely out with our control. If we'd have offered him any more it would have rocked the whole wage structure and upset the harmony of the rest of the squad. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heynow2005 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 I'd just have him out of the team, no use in strengthening rangers but wouldn't want to risk him being a passenger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, c.r said: Pretty sure it's nothing to do with him that it's became common knowledge He didn’t have to be pictured walking in the main door at Ibrox. There are ways of doing things which respect the club you are with currently. It’s been handled with a lack of class you’d expect from Rangers but hoped you wouldn’t see from the player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, piffer said: He didn’t have to be pictured walking in the main door at Ibrox. There are ways of doing things which respect the club you are with currently. It’s been handled with a lack of class you’d expect from Rangers but hoped you wouldn’t see from the player. Exactly total Rangers class. Rangers / His agent may have leaked it but he should have told them to keep it just as speculation out of respect for his current club. Rangers probably knew what affect it would have on our support so leak it anyway. Got to use it to create a siege mentality instead of disharmony and forget about him like we did with Mulumbu. Get them leathered end of the month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Any chance of him not signing? Doesn’t look happy in that photo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTID96 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, PrestersKtid said: Any chance of him not signing? Doesn’t look happy in that photo He’s perhaps realised from the Twitter reaction that he is in fact a Judas snake of a boy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI Kilmarnock Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Sp3ckyh0td0g81 said: From a purely professional point, I know in my line of work and the majority of professions, if you are leaving your current position to work for a direct competitor you see out your notice on garden leave. This is no different, they are a direct competitor so stick him on the bench/garden leave and focus on the job in hand with our season Precisely! Thanks for your time, your accounts have been locked and security will help you remove your personal belongings from your office! You can keep your phone for the next three months and we expect you to answer if we call. Any fraternising with your new employer during this period will be considered gross misconduct and you will be dismissed etc ... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp3ckyh0td0g81 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 His Instagram page is already full of Union Jack comments on his last pic of scoring against st Mirren full of welcome to rankers and the usual bile cya JJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sp3ckyh0td0g81 said: His Instagram page is already full of Union Jack comments on his last pic of scoring against st Mirren full of welcome to rankers and the usual bile cya JJ It’s been like that for 12months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhamkillieken Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Has it been announced officially? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All the Wine Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, Souleycouley93 said: Exactly total Rangers class. Rangers / His agent may have leaked it but he should have told them to keep it just as speculation out of respect for his current club. I don't think he'll have much say on whether his picture gets out or not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Souleycouley93 said: Exactly total Rangers class. Rangers / His agent may have leaked it but he should have told them to keep it just as speculation out of respect for his current club. Rangers probably knew what affect it would have on our support so leak it anyway. Got to use it to create a siege mentality instead of disharmony and forget about him like we did with Mulumbu. Get them leathered end of the month. Any hope of him retaining the faintest of relationships with the fans has gone. No matter who he has signed for, respect should be given to his current employer and the fans that pay his wages. He has been paraded like a prize doll by his agent, Sevco and more importantly by himself. He decides how the PCA is dealt with. If he had any respect for our club and fans he wouldn’t have conducted himself in this manner. Why does he feel the need to walk in the front door of that place? This could all have been done privately like most other PCA’s.Totally unprofessional and showing utter contempt for everyone associated with our club. Wether he’s on the park, bench or in the stand for our next game he will get abused. Probably like no other player in the history of our club. Totally unacceptable from him as a so called professional footballer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thebigguy68 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, Sp3ckyh0td0g81 said: From a purely professional point, I know in my line of work and the majority of professions, if you are leaving your current position to work for a direct competitor you see out your notice on garden leave. There are reasons for this in business re. Sensitive competetive issue and know how/IP. Jj has worked with the management team for 18 months now. Garden leave will serve little purpose unless we feel he will be a disruptive influence. I don’t. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy2012 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, baz said: Sevco have already won out of this. Look at the disharmony they’ve caused in what has been our best season for years. They’ve effectively rendered one of our best players useless to us for the rest of the season as well. The last thing I’d do is cave in to Sevco and let him go there now for peanuts, that may be the ideal thing to do in theory but we’d just be doubling down on a bad situation. We keep him until summer. We let SC decide what to do with him. I’m pretty sure that plans are already in place to render him a fringe player if he signs the PCA...which he’s perfectly entitled to do. What we shouldn’t be doing is slaughtering him all over social media and giving the world reason to ridicule us, because this situation is not of our making other than it was us who afforded him the chance to shine and that’s allowed him to drum up a contract elsewhere that we cannot match. What we should be doing is raging about the SFA and how they are allowing a club which has already went out of business once to operate out with their means and continue to try and buy everyone else out of the game in exactly the same manner which saw so many people and businesses lose out financially when they went bust before. This. How this monstrosity of an organisation is still allowed to operate is beyond me. Financial fair play? tsst. The other main issue is PCA's. Should be done away with. There is simply no sporting integrity in football anymore. Corrupt to its core at the highest levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbk Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Let's all be honest here if the opportunity to increase your wages presented itself you would grab it and the life of a professional footballer is no different what is bothering all of us here is who he is going to but if we are being honest no surprise his mind was made up probably 12 months ago though I agree he could have signed an extension with us to allow us to make a few bob but he ho .I personally trust SC to guide us through all of this and he will have known for some time what this outcome was let's wish JJ well thank him for his efforts and if he stays after today I'm sure he will still be professional and let's all focus on the other players who are here and hope they will give JJ and his new (newest Scottish club by the way) something to think of come May!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fankle Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, RyanM1869 said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee_Eck1979 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 48 minutes ago, baz said: Sorry but not wearing that. We've been trying to increase his contract for over a year. He's had numerous offers, one of which would have made him the top paid player at the club. The current situation is entirely out with our control. If we'd have offered him any more it would have rocked the whole wage structure and upset the harmony of the rest of the squad. Exactly, we never started discussing a new contract until there was interest in him. We should have recognised his future worth earlier and gave him a deal that showed this to him rather than leave him on a low wage for as long as we thought we could get away with. Thankfully under Clarke’s guidance we have being far more proactive in this matter but it’s been an issue at the club for many a year and has cost us lucrative transfer fees in the past. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkG Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 I don’t object in the slightest to Jones making money from a short career. For Sevco to be allowed to continue to make massive losses yet again, it makes you wonder what the f**king point is in following any other team. Utterly despicable club, top to bottom. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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