skygod Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 9 hours ago, diamond_geezer said: He’s barely running . On the contrary, he’s running very fast. At that speed, if someone rolls an object in your path, there is a good chance you will trip over it if you don't take it in your stride. I don’t think it was a penalty, but I don't think it’s a clear-cut dive either. It’s a refereeing error. McCann is making a song and dance because it’s a wee lifeline for him. He would have been sacked by now if Dundee could have afforded to. Credit to Jones for making the run anyway - it’s exactly the sort of effort which was lacking last week. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, skygod said: On the contrary, he’s running very fast. At that speed, if someone rolls an object in your path, there is a good chance you will trip over it if you don't take it in your stride. I don’t think it was a penalty, but I don't think it’s a clear-cut dive either. It’s a refereeing error. McCann is making a song and dance because it’s a wee lifeline for him. He would have been sacked by now if Dundee could have afforded to. Credit to Jones for making the run anyway - it’s exactly the sort of effort which was lacking last week. From the highlights the club put up I think it looks a penalty. You can see the referees viewpoint is similar to that. Like you I’m not convinced its a clear cut dive. The Dundee one at the end was a blatant dive throwing himself to the ground. Jones doesn’t throw himself down but other angles appear to prove there is no contact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, killie billies pal said: Is this the Dundee Forums? No, but should we alll just agree that it was a great decision because we benefited from it? As SSC has said many of our games have been influenced by bad refereeing decisions - and it would have been the same last week if Well had scored their ridiculously awarded penalty. Im sick of watching games where the outcome is very much impacted not by how well a team plays but because of the incompetence of the officials. They are shockingly bad and something has to improve or people will get switched off by it. Edited October 7, 2018 by historyman 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies PaPa Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Wireless commentary said we should have had a penalty when Scot Boyd's jersey was being pulled before he skied his shot over the bar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 neil McCann moaning about diving and cheating lol you couldn't make it up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiehippo Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) The media are making a big deal of the JJ incident but if they were to watch the full game they would see we were clearly denied one (maybe two) penalties in the first half. You don't always get what you deserve but yesterday we did, the better team won.........onwards and upwards. Edited October 7, 2018 by killiehippo 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killie alan Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, killiehippo said: The media are making a big deal of the JJ incident but if they were to watch the full game they would see we were clearly denied one (maybe two) penalties in the first half. You don't always get what you deserve but yesterday we did, the better team won.........onwards and upwards. Well said mate absolutely agree 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie billies pal Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 7 hours ago, historyman said: No, but should we alll just agree that it was a great decision because we benefited from it? Yes! Im sick of watching games where the outcome is very much impacted not by how well a team plays but because of the incompetence of the officials. They are shockingly bad and something has to improve or people will get switched off by it. I can only think you have not watched much of Scottish football whilst the OF have won league after league, cup after cup 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baz Posted October 7, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 8 hours ago, skygod said: I don’t think it was a penalty, but I don't think it’s a clear-cut dive either. It’s a refereeing error. 100% this. Hippo spot on as well, on the balance of play we deserved to win and always looked like we could step up a gear if required. Find it strange some of the folk having a go at our own players here...is this what happens when we've nothing to moan about? Dundee had targetted Tshibola as a danger man and kept the ball away from him as much as possible...he only touched it five times in the first half. It certainly wasn't for lack of trying though. The penalty argument wasn't pretty but it was borne out of pure frustration on Tshibola's part as he desperately wanted to make more of a contribution than play was dictating. If you look at it that way is it such a bad thing? All our players are stepping up their game, that's why Jones isn't standing out as much this year, he's not going backwards, everyone else is improving. 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie billies pal Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Absolutely Baz, can we please have a new Forum, Killie Win At Any Cost, in it there is not claims for our players to be banned, any decisions on our benefits are permitted, any decisions against us get the wrath of pure mentalness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Now seen the penalty incident on TV. It looked no worse than the one Well got last week. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabber68 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 No worse than any other dive that goes on week in week out in any other game up and down the country, what really gets me cross is the lynch mob forming by ex player pundits and managers who were just as guilty when playing, only difference is more media coverage and sensationalism. Who said we have to play by marquis of Queensbury rules when every other chancer will do what it takes to get one over. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG5 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 37 minutes ago, gdevoy said: Now seen the penalty incident on TV. It looked no worse than the one Well got last week. Correct. McCann just needs a excuse to moan at to hold onto his job for another couple of weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18yardhero Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Shocking that pundits in the media are allowed to start witch hunts against any player they decide warrants retrospective action. They pick on someone and then the fannies at the SFA decide to take action. Nobodies whose opinion are not worth wasting breath on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch14 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 To be fair to those making comments about Jones... I completely agree that its not 100% clear if that is a dive. But having watched Jones for a few years makes me think it probably was a dive. He rightly has a reputation. I've seen both Burke and Power have a go at him for going down easily in separate games this year. He usually does it when he runs out of ideas or runs himself into a corner. Hes also tried exactly that move in past games and refs have told him to get up... Completely agree too that no player should be victimised though. My biggest issue with him going down is that it usually shows he's lost focus, and thats a part of his game that has been improving a lot under Clarke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 If the witch hunt continues I don’t think SSC will miss them when given an opportunity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, piffer said: If the witch hunt continues I don’t think SSC will miss them when given an opportunity Within reason I think it is good for us to feel there is a witch-hunt against us. It worked a treat for Alex Ferguson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme S Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, piffer said: If the witch hunt continues I don’t think SSC will miss them when given an opportunity We should lock Thomson and Stewart in a room with SSC and I have no doubts who would win the argument. By that I mean the verbal argument on football matters. In terms of football and coaching knowledge obviously SSC is head and shoulders above both combined and indeed the rest of the coaches in the country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl1869 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Had enough against us this season from referees so no one can moan when we get something, it evens itself out as the referees are consistently s**te, f**k McCann, convinced we would’ve went on and won the game without the dodgy penalty. Didn’t get out of 2nd gear after taking the lead. Edited October 8, 2018 by Darryl1869 Spelling 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 We've been done by Mclean so many times in the past, was bout time we got a favourable decision. The second pen imo was a stone waller so it evens itself out. Most teams in the league will get a proper dodgy decision go for them this season. This was ours. I don't condone diving as I'm livid when folk do it against us, but not convinced Jones dived, more tripped himself up. He'd have got a booking on another day. The main thing is we've won again in a potential banana skin of a game. With St Mirren and Hamilton next we should be looking at getting results against both. If Jones get's a retrospective ban it's no big deal, we've bright, Ndjoli, Kiltie, mckenzie that can come in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedsy Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Why would he get a ban is it not just a yella he’d get 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, seedsy said: Why would he get a ban is it not just a yella he’d get It would have been. I'm assuming people are likening it to Schalk? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonbon19 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 As the “great” Andy Walker states on numerous occasions diving in the box is part of the game “ and let the referee make the decision “ Whether you support this is debatable but the hand wringing by some should cease . I doubt hardly any football fan , “decent “ or not care deeply how a match was won. If you do may I suggest you take up chess there’s very little cheating in that . If JJ does get a 2 match ban then I would expect similar punishment for EVERY player from now on , but you just know that won’t happen , we don’t play on a level play field in Scotland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bonbon19 said: If you do may I suggest you take up chess there’s very little cheating in that . Oh, do you think so? Everywhere people play anything somebody will find a way to "gain an advantage". Edited October 8, 2018 by gdevoy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIlliedaft1957 Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) Nobody seems to have commented on the fact that our second (and missed) penalty should have been retaken as the Dundee keeper was well off his line before Stewart took the kick. Killiedaft1957 Edited October 21, 2018 by KIlliedaft1957 Forgot to use my name 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.