Wrangodog Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 Is it wrong to want him to just be on the bench ? Really can't afford an injury to Brophy, the remaining options up front for us is non-existent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKX16 Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Scouser2 said: On top of getting that goal for us , hopefully the (late) call up will further boost his confidence resulting in a run of goals in next month or so Beat me to it. Confidence is a big part for any player but for a striker the pressure is always on to score goals. Goals will come from Brophy hopefully this Saturday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killieboy87 Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Wrangodog said: Is it wrong to want him to just be on the bench ? Really can't afford an injury to Brophy, the remaining options up front for us is non-existent. It's the chance you take. If he gets game time and scores, he comes back a different player IMO and could be lethal for us. We know he needs a confidence boost (even on top of the goal v accies) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just now, killieboy87 said: It's the chance you take. If he gets game time and scores, he comes back a different player IMO and could be lethal for us. We know he needs a confidence boost (even on top of the goal v accies) We know he needs a confidence boost ? That's a bold statement considering he did score against Accies. The only problem that I can see is the crap service he gets to give him a chance to score, plus nobody else is scoring regularly to take the pressure off him. Brophy will score given the proper service and somebody sharing the workload up front. It isn't confidence he lacks, it's the system and players round about him that are the problem. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, Wrangodog said: We know he needs a confidence boost ? That's a bold statement considering he did score against Accies. The only problem that I can see is the crap service he gets to give him a chance to score, plus nobody else is scoring regularly to take the pressure off him. Brophy will score given the proper service and somebody sharing the workload up front. It isn't confidence he lacks, it's the system and players round about him that are the problem. Behave. Boyd never always had good service but scored goals. Strikers have sometimes got to make their own chances. Even at that, he has been missing easy chances when clean through as well this calendar year. We cannot simply keep blaming other players for Brophy not playing well. Surprised it's not Rory McKenzies fault Brophy has been poor since January out with a couple of single games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ngonge88 said: Behave. Boyd never always had good service but scored goals. Strikers have sometimes got to make their own chances. Even at that, he has been missing easy chances when clean through as well this calendar year. We cannot simply keep blaming other players for Brophy not playing well. Surprised it's not Rory McKenzies fault Brophy has been poor since January out with a couple of single games. Boyd isn't Brophy and Brophy isn't Boyd. Brophy isn't an out and out striker, that's the job that Boyd did. He needs somebody beside him to share the workload, like Boyd or Stewart did. Who has he got now that can provide assists or score themselves ? Nobody, so all the goalscoring problems are down to him. That's a hell of a lot of pressure on one player. Who is going to provide goals to take some of the pressure off him ? Sow has been out injured and Jackson doesn't look the part at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Wrangodog said: Boyd isn't Brophy and Brophy isn't Boyd. Brophy isn't an out and out striker, that's the job that Boyd did. He needs somebody beside him to share the workload, like Boyd or Stewart did. Who has he got now that can provide assists or score themselves ? Nobody, so all the goalscoring problems are down to him. That's a hell of a lot of pressure on one player. Who is going to provide goals to take some of the pressure off him ? Sow has been out injured and Jackson doesn't look the part at all. I cant disagree with most of this post, however Brophy has simply not been good enough the past 11 months and most players dont get the support and leniency that Brophy has had. I keep wanting Brophy too succeed because of the effort and enthusiasm the lad has but the talent doesn't come natural. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Ngonge88 said: Behave. Boyd never always had good service but scored goals. Strikers have sometimes got to make their own chances. Even at that, he has been missing easy chances when clean through as well this calendar year. We cannot simply keep blaming other players for Brophy not playing well. Surprised it's not Rory McKenzies fault Brophy has been poor since January out with a couple of single games. Remember the season before Boyd finished as the top scorer in the league? Most on here had written him off as finished. Some of us said he simply wasnt getting good service. That turned out to be the case. For a striker, it's all about service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkG Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ngonge88 said: I cant disagree with most of this post, however Brophy has simply not been good enough the past 11 months and most players dont get the support and leniency that Brophy has had. I keep wanting Brophy too succeed because of the effort and enthusiasm the lad has but the talent doesn't come natural. Top scorer last season, international cap and back in the squad again. I would say that’s a clear indication of talent. He gets the support he does because he’s a good player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, NorfolkG said: Top scorer last season, international cap and back in the squad again. I would say that’s a clear indication of talent. He gets the support he does because he’s a good player. Most put on a plate by Greg Stewart or dead balls. A few belters in there too in fairness. I'm not a statto so dont know exact numbers, but I'd reckon about 2 goals from open play this calendar year. He got service at times, decision making and product has been terrible at times. I'll stop arguing here but honestly Rory McKenzie is the perfect example I keep coming back to because of the abuse he gets, but he has been at least 5 times the player Brophy has this year, and gets pelters every week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkG Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Ngonge88 said: Most put on a plate by Greg Stewart or dead balls. A few belters in there too in fairness. I'm not a statto so dont know exact numbers, but I'd reckon about 2 goals from open play this calendar year. He got service at times, decision making and product has been terrible at times. I'll stop arguing here but honestly Rory McKenzie is the perfect example I keep coming back to because of the abuse he gets, but he has been at least 5 times the player Brophy has this year, and gets pelters every week Not from me. I rate both players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKX16 Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, NorfolkG said: Not from me. I rate both players. Hopefully on Saturday people will give Rory the benefit of the doubt. Of course he will make a mistake or two but that applies to everyone in the team. There will be plenty of positives to be had. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 I think Brophy is a good player just not a natural striker. His best tally for us is 12 and that included penalties and at least one free kick. AA alluded to the fact that Brophy was having to carry the burden of scoring towards the end of the transfer window when he was trying, and failing, to sign a goalscorer. The other problem is that we don't have somebody to create chances from midfield. A club with our budget will struggle to sign a goalscorer and a play maker unless we get lucky or take someone on loan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 What is he then if hes not a natural striker? His decision making is shocking, tries to shoot every time he gets the ball. He played well against hamilton and scored a smashing goal, but the first half he gets the ball 25 yards out and curls the ball straight at the keeper when all he needs to do is slip in SOD and hes clean through. Anyway, that's plenty fae me. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilm53 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 He needs a No10 to play alongside.. not an out and out striker.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Brophy bashing is ok but criticising precious Rory is forbidden and will call for flags and songs to be sung at the next game. lol One is a Scottish international. The other has played 200+ matches for us and still we don’t know his best position. There’s no argument who has the most talent. -10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, kilm53 said: He needs a No10 to play alongside.. not an out and out striker.. Naismith and Brophy would be perfect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilm53 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Not on our pitch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebigguy68 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 15 hours ago, Ngonge88 said: I cant disagree with most of this post, however Brophy has simply not been good enough the past 11 months and most players dont get the support and leniency that Brophy has had. I keep wanting Brophy too succeed because of the effort and enthusiasm the lad has but the talent doesn't come natural. Spot on. Hopefully the performance against Hamilton can kick him on again because he has had a poor year compared to previous. Formation has been a factor - conceded - but his movement and finishing have been simply not good enough. It’s in there and was seen a week or so back. Hope we see it more often over the remainder of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieFanInToon Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, Guff92 said: Brophy bashing is ok but criticising precious Rory is forbidden and will call for flags and songs to be sung at the next game. lol One is a Scottish international. The other has played 200+ matches for us and still we don’t know his best position. There’s no argument who has the most talent. Not seeing a great deal of Brophy bashing on this thread, more fair criticism. But congratulations on once again getting a dig in at McKenzie. Your pathological dislike of him is truly something to behold. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guff92 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, KillieFanInToon said: Not seeing a great deal of Brophy bashing on this thread, more fair criticism. But congratulations on once again getting a dig in at McKenzie. Your pathological dislike of him is truly something to behold. Don’t think I was the one who brought him up to be fair. I’m stating facts, one is good enough for Scotland, the other isn’t. Soz -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PillieKie Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, Guff92 said: Don’t think I was the one who brought him up to be fair. I’m stating facts, one is good enough for Scotland, the other isn’t. Soz People that McKenzie would be competing with for a start on the wing: an in form James Forrest, an in form Ryan Christie, Ryan Fraser playing in the EPL. People that Brophy is competing with for a start up front: a player coming back from a lengthy injury, a player not getting a game in the EPL, a player playing in the Scottish Championship. Not really a like for like comparison is it? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 22 hours ago, Wrangodog said: Is it wrong to want him to just be on the bench ? Really can't afford an injury to Brophy, the remaining options up front for us is non-existent. And has been since the end of last season and still not rectified 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieFanInToon Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Guff92 said: Don’t think I was the one who brought him up to be fair. I’m stating facts, one is good enough for Scotland, the other isn’t. Soz A single cap makes Brophy better than McKenzie. Sure. Come back when you actually know something about football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Brophy plays in a position where Scotland has very limited options, McKenzie plays in a position where Scotland has multiple talented players. Probably the only area in the side where we have strength in depth, apart from left back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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