Mclean07 Posted November 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, gdevoy said: There is certainly a large majority of independence supporters on killiefc.com which is totally unrepresentative of the population as a whole. And to be totally candid, while some are fair-minded with a fair degree of self awareness, some of them are less than rational. However I don't think the word "cesspit" is helpful if your objective is "re-education". Well said. They're not open to re-education. They defend every twist and turn of the SNP from a Bankers Growth Commission to their recent turning on the unions. Your either with them or against them. As I've sad before, a couple of prominent Killie fans who have my politics (racists apparently), would rip them apart, but they gave up a long time ago, and that's why it is turning into a one party bore forum. Best wishes in your efforts to give a (slightly) different view. Edited November 19, 2018 by Mclean07 -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: Best wishes in your efforts to give a (slightly) different view. It certainly aint easy. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcilroy56 Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: Well said. They're not open to re-education. They defend every twist and turn of the SNP from a Bankers Growth Commission to their recent turning on the unions. Your either with them or against them. As I've sad before, a couple of prominent Killie fans who have my politics (racists apparently), would rip them apart, but they gave up a long time ago, and that's why it is turning into a one party bore forum. Best wishes in your efforts to give a (slightly) different view. Lol, you’ve had more comebacks than Lazarus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhamkillieken Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 I cant remember this part of the forum being anything other than a SNP love in. All you have to do it look at the majority of the topics. Just the other week there was budget, and none of these politicos thought it worthwhile of a thread. But then it didn't blow smoke up the backside of the SNP so it should be no surprise! -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 You do know how to start a new topic, I presume? You're free to talk about anything you choose, or not as the case may be. Reasonable discussion is always welcome, unreasonable "festering boils of hate, rage, and impotence" can jog on. Suppose though, just like the Holyrood contingent, there's a severe dearth of talent in the Slab/Scon supporters union that doesn't look like changing anytime soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcilroy56 Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 And I was like Baby, Baby, Baby oh -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harley Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mclean07 said: As I've sad before, a couple of prominent Killie fans who have my politics (racists apparently), would rip them apart, but they gave up a long time ago, Aye, that's why they don't post, because they would rip every others posts apart, haha. Usual tosh from the arch yoon. Get them on so that they can explain what's happened to Scotland's oil & gas revenues these last 40 years (is it still running out). Ask them where they are going to site their nuclear weapons if independence comes about. Funny how you don't post about the British nationalists who are a whole lot more sinister than a few crazy Nat's. You bring up a few loony's posting that workers will lose their Scotsman's jobs but think it's OK to hope the the car workers in Sunderland will lose theirs. You are as crazy as the Nat loon's & a hypocrite to boot. Edited November 19, 2018 by harley 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted November 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, harley said: Aye, that's why they don't post, because they would rip every others posts apart, haha. Usual tosh from the arch yoon. Get them on so that they can explain what's happened to Scotland's oil & gas revenues these last 40 years (is it still running out). Ask them where they are going to site their nuclear weapons if independence comes about. Funny how you don't post about the British nationalists who are a whole lot more sinister than a few crazy Nat's. You bring up a few loony's posting that workers will lose their Scotsman's jobs but think it's OK to hope the the car workers in Sunderland will lose theirs. You are as crazy as the Nat loon's & a hypocrite to boot. Tell us about the 13 billion hole in your finances that your own Growth Commission said would take at least ten years of austerity to fix. Tell us about the ten billion transferred, partly from Sunderland car workers taxes every year to subsidise your wee free prescriptions. Tell us about your use of yoon as a term of abuse. Tell us about those who were first to the baracades to defend Klllie fans singing about black b@srards, nearly all the nats on here to a man. But that would be "joyous, civic racism". Finally, tell us why wee Nicola us sh1t scared of pushing for another referendum? -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted November 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Scooter said: You do know how to start a new topic, I presume? You're free to talk about anything you choose, or not as the case may be. Reasonable discussion is always welcome, unreasonable "festering boils of hate, rage, and impotence" can jog on. Suppose though, just like the Holyrood contingent, there's a severe dearth of talent in the Slab/Scon supporters union that doesn't look like changing anytime soon. In other words leave festering boils of hate, rage and impotence to us, as even in the worst crisis for the British State snce the war, we still can't build up a head of steam of independence. On the plus side, we can still hoodwink enough of the population to let us keep spending other people's money on the Scottish middle classes by whining and creating false grievances that the gullible with a chip on each shoulder lap up. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harley Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: Tell us about the 13 billion hole in your finances that your own Growth Commission said would take at least ten years of austerity to fix. Tell us about the ten billion transferred, partly from Sunderland car workers taxes every year to subsidise your wee free prescriptions. Tell us about your use of yoon as a term of abuse. Tell us about those who were first to the baracades to defend Klllie fans singing about black b@srards, nearly all the nats on here to a man. But that would be "joyous, civic racism". Finally, tell us why wee Nicola us sh1t scared of pushing for another referendum? Answer the question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted November 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, harley said: Answer the question. I know you don't understand much about sharing resources, as nationalism is about selfishness, but two points. It wasn't and isn't Scotland's oil. It's the UK's oil. The Scottish people have voted to keep it that way. Secondly, just as the oil revenues were shared with our friends and neighbours, now that the receipts are negative, they are sharing their wealth with us. It's a good arrangement and that's what friends do. The nuclear weapons siting isn't an issue as the Scottish people voted to keep the UK together and we play our part in the UK's defence. I'm afraid that for you, the sad thing is Scotland answered the question, and the answer was No. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: I'm afraid that for you, the sad thing is Scotland answered the question, and the answer was No. Scotland answered the question when the question was "Do you want to remain part of a United Kingdom which is part of the European Union?" How might Scotland answer the question "Do you want to remain part of a United Kingdom which aspires to an employment and welfare model based on that of the U.S?" In fact I am more than a little confused about why the arch socialist, Jezza, is so keen on pushing the UK in this direction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bute-killiefan Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: I know you don't understand much about sharing resources, as nationalism is about selfishness, but two points. It wasn't and isn't Scotland's oil. It's the UK's oil. The Scottish people have voted to keep it that way. Secondly, just as the oil revenues were shared with our friends and neighbours, now that the receipts are negative, they are sharing their wealth with us. It's a good arrangement and that's what friends do. The nuclear weapons siting isn't an issue as the Scottish people voted to keep the UK together and we play our part in the UK's defence. I'm afraid that for you, the sad thing is Scotland answered the question, and the answer was No. Polling shows both those claims are untrue. Scottish people want control over oil, and they want the nukes out. Despite your claim, those questions have not been put to a vote. Playing our part in the UK defence, having nuclear bombs within miles of the most populous city in the country.... deary me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) On 11/19/2018 at 10:11 AM, Mclean07 said: Don't worry, they'll have it to themselves again,now. They're nly happy with no opposition. Only trouble is certain subjects will never be raised or questioned. Your the one who instigated almost all of bloody hate speech. Your constant attention seeking posts are as f**king tiresome as they are insulting to honed debate. Your posts are as irrelevant as Scottish or the branch office of British Labour are. Have a f**king word with yourself before coming on, throwing abuse around then greeting like a child when you get is back in spades. Edited November 20, 2018 by Beaker71 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 5 hours ago, gdevoy said: Scotland answered the question when the question was "Do you want to remain part of a United Kingdom which is part of the European Union?" How might Scotland answer the question "Do you want to remain part of a United Kingdom which aspires to an employment and welfare model based on that of the U.S?" In fact I am more than a little confused about why the arch socialist, Jezza, is so keen on pushing the UK in this direction. Pity David Milland was not the leader of the labour party he would have wiped the floor of those lunatic little england brexiteers and hopeless tories 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harley Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 16 hours ago, Mclean07 said: I know you don't understand much about sharing resources, as nationalism is about selfishness, but two points. It wasn't and isn't Scotland's oil. It's the UK's oil. The Scottish people have voted to keep it that way. Secondly, just as the oil revenues were shared with our friends and neighbours, now that the receipts are negative, they are sharing their wealth with us. It's a good arrangement and that's what friends do. The nuclear weapons siting isn't an issue as the Scottish people voted to keep the UK together and we play our part in the UK's defence. I'm afraid that for you, the sad thing is Scotland answered the question, and the answer was No. But what about you stating you hope North East car workers lose their jobs. It was you who started this thread about Scotsmans jobs. Rather Hypocritical. As far as I am aware you are the only person on this forum who has stated that they hope people lose their jobs. I don't remember any of the independence supporters (not SNP) stating that about the Scotsman jobs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killieblues Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/19/2018 at 9:34 AM, gdevoy said: And to be totally candid, while some are fair-minded with a fair degree of self awareness, some of them are less than rational. After reading this post, I couldn't agree more (on both sides of the independence "debate")! Think I'll stick to the footie pages 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclean07 Posted November 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, harley said: But what about you stating you hope North East car workers lose their jobs. It was you who started this thread about Scotsmans jobs. Rather Hypocritical. As far as I am aware you are the only person on this forum who has stated that they hope people lose their jobs. I don't remember any of the independence supporters (not SNP) stating that about the Scotsman jobs. You're all clinging on to a sarcastic remark about the stupidity of people endangering their own jobs. I lived in the North East for six years and was a Sunderland regular during that time and still go back twice a year. There are independence supporters all over the place posting about having no sympathy with the Scotsman employees and almost more worrying, being delighted a newspaper that doesn't share there views could have been silenced. Look, you're one of the decent people on here, but unfortunately, when some people put an alternative view on, they're slandered, lied about, told they shouldn't post as they live in England, told to F off to England, told their not standing up for Scotland. It's like the online version of a Trump rally. Anyway, I'm trying to get back off it for a while. Most people have given up the ghost that are non independence. If you don't believe that, watch it over the next few weeks and look out of any criticism of the SNP and the number of contributions from non Nats. Best wishes. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: You're all clinging on to a sarcastic remark about the stupidity of people endangering their own jobs. I lived in the North East for six years and was a Sunderland regular during that time and still go back twice a year. There are independence supporters all over the place posting about having no sympathy with the Scotsman employees and almost more worrying, being delighted a newspaper that doesn't share there views could have been silenced. Look, you're one of the decent people on here, but unfortunately, when some people put an alternative view on, they're slandered, lied about, told they shouldn't post as they live in England, told to F off to England, told their not standing up for Scotland. It's like the online version of a Trump rally. Anyway, I'm trying to get back off it for a while. Most people have given up the ghost that are non independence. If you don't believe that, watch it over the next few weeks and look out of any criticism of the SNP and the number of contributions from non Nats. Best wishes. You can’t moan about slander when you post complete bullsh1t about people, politics and an entire nation on a regular basis. dont throw stones when you live in a glass house ya muppet. anyone losing their jobs is a tragedy for them, in some cases for an area and less often a nation. however when the editorial slant of so-called news paper with the emphasis on the news part, continually denigrates its own readership and the wider populace then can anyone be surprised that it’s sales drop??? i have no sympathy with the owners as their direction has resulted in this situation, as has their lack of foresite and ability to live with a changing world. I have the utmost sympathy with any worker losing their income, however this has not happened in the short term. Which will be the position the vast majority of people who despise the editorial slant of the Scotsman newspaper. Edited November 20, 2018 by Beaker71 -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bute-killiefan Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 How many more times are you going to disappear from the forums only to return after a few weeks with some stick to beat Indy supporters with, ignore/greet about the replies you get, accuse it of being an echochamber and announce you're taking some time away? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhamkillieken Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/19/2018 at 2:06 PM, Scooter said: You do know how to start a new topic, I presume? You're free to talk about anything you choose, or not as the case may be. Reasonable discussion is always welcome, unreasonable "festering boils of hate, rage, and impotence" can jog on. Suppose though, just like the Holyrood contingent, there's a severe dearth of talent in the Slab/Scon supporters union that doesn't look like changing anytime soon. brilliant, thanks for proving my point without me having to post anything else! it couldn't have worked out better, thank you. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhamkillieken Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 22 hours ago, Beaker71 said: Your the one who instigated almost all of bloody hate speech. Your constant attention seeking posts are as f**king tiresome as they are insulting to honed debate. Your posts are as irrelevant as Scottish or the branch office of British Labour are. Have a f**king word with yourself before coming on, throwing abuse around then greeting like a child when you get is back in spades. never forget, people were still bleeding on the streets of London after a terrorist attack when you were on here stating the government were complicit in the act. you know all about hate speech! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 47 minutes ago, Bhamkillieken said: brilliant, thanks for proving my point without me having to post anything else! it couldn't have worked out better, thank you. I don't think you've ever had a point... ever! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcilroy56 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Bhamkillieken said: never forget, people were still bleeding on the streets of London after a terrorist attack when you were on here stating the government were complicit in the act. you know all about hate speech! Must be missing the point I don’t see anything “hateful” in that statement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcilroy56 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Bhamkillieken said: never forget, people were still bleeding on the streets of London after a terrorist attack when you were on here stating the government were complicit in the act. you know all about hate speech! Must be missing the point I don’t see anything “hateful” in that statement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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