rb_506 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 5 hours ago, KillieDIV said: How do we go about getting the wee badge below our profile on here? Join the Trust! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaucyJackPirate Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, DrewWylie said: Sorry pal but what does that get us in real terms ? If 2000 folk paid a tenner a month that'd be 240k a year. Greg Stewart would be paid for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb_506 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, DrewWylie said: Sorry pal but what does that get us in real terms ? quoted from Facebook here - Worth noting that if 3k Killie fans had donated the minimum £10 a month to TIK this year then the Trust could have been handing the club a cheque for £360,000 tax free which would have negated the reported loss for last year and allowed the Club to allocate more funds to the manager for the player budget, if that's what we wanted to do with it. The Trust AGM is Wednesday 16th January in the Park Suite. You can sign up for TIK here >>>https://killietrust.killiefc.com/en/trust-in-killie_52022/ Hope you decide to sign up, I've noticed you say a lot against the Trust and their representative on the board but I really don't understand it. They've put more actual money into the football club than anyone except Phyllis McLeish since the first Mr Moffat, over a quarter million I read recently. We're all Killie fans, if you can't afford to support them then fair enough, but the hostility is strange to say the least. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb_506 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, SaucyJackPirate said: If 2000 folk paid a tenner a month that'd be 240k a year. Greg Stewart would be paid for. sorry, must have been posting at the same time! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhamkillieken Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, rb_506 said: quoted from Facebook here - Worth noting that if 3k Killie fans had donated the minimum £10 a month to TIK this year then the Trust could have been handing the club a cheque for £360,000 tax free which would have negated the reported loss for last year and allowed the Club to allocate more funds to the manager for the player budget, if that's what we wanted to do with it. The Trust AGM is Wednesday 16th January in the Park Suite. You can sign up for TIK here >>>https://killietrust.killiefc.com/en/trust-in-killie_52022/ Hope you decide to sign up, I've noticed you say a lot against the Trust and their representative on the board but I really don't understand it. They've put more actual money into the football club than anyone except Phyllis McLeish since the first Mr Moffat, over a quarter million I read recently. We're all Killie fans, if you can't afford to support them then fair enough, but the hostility is strange to say the least. the money isnt just given to the club. they are buying shares, but will only do so if the money is used for something which the trust are happy with. hence the quote "if that is what we wanted to do with it" to say if "x amount joined that would be GS paid for" is pushing it a bit. it would need to be agreed with the club and the shares bought. if the club and tik dont agree then it wouldnt happen, then no gs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaucyJackPirate Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bhamkillieken said: the money isnt just given to the club. they are buying shares, but will only do so if the money is used for something which the trust are happy with. hence the quote "if that is what we wanted to do with it" to say if "x amount joined that would be GS paid for" is pushing it a bit. it would need to be agreed with the club and the shares bought. if the club and tik dont agree then it wouldnt happen, then no gs. That's meandering nonsense. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb_506 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Bhamkillieken said: the money isnt just given to the club. they are buying shares, but will only do so if the money is used for something which the trust are happy with. hence the quote "if that is what we wanted to do with it" to say if "x amount joined that would be GS paid for" is pushing it a bit. it would need to be agreed with the club and the shares bought. if the club and tik dont agree then it wouldnt happen, then no gs. Taking away from the fact that you always have something negative to say about the Trust, money for shares is money for nothing in real terms at that level. It would take decades to get anywhere near the top shareholders at the current rate. Your point about "if that is what they wanted to do with it" is well made, but moot nonetheless. The money would be included in any budget and no matter what the Trust agreed with the club to spend it on, it would allow the club to reallocate the funds they'd already put past for that purpose into the player budget. The only way that wouldn't happen is if the Trust wanted the money spent on something the club were not going to have in their budget anyway, like safe standing, but from the other thread on that it is clear that safe standing could actually be self funded, so again rendering the point moot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKillie Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Renewed mine 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, DrewWylie said: Sorry pal but what does that get us in real terms ? FREE MONEY 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossden Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Joined 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudger Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Fs don’t turn this into a negative. I’m assuming this is the biggest increase in trust membership in one day for a very long time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Bhamkillieken said: the money isnt just given to the club. they are buying shares, but will only do so if the money is used for something which the trust are happy with. hence the quote "if that is what we wanted to do with it" to say if "x amount joined that would be GS paid for" is pushing it a bit. it would need to be agreed with the club and the shares bought. if the club and tik dont agree then it wouldnt happen, then no gs. Utter nonsense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Anyone else care to join us? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTID86 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 New member joining here. I'll be joining TIK timorrow. Lets do this! Support our local team and believe! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skora11 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 hours ago, C4mmy31 said: Anyone else care to join us? Up nealry 20%! That is very impressive. Well done to all joining up and those that have got others to do likewise! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 58 folk in a day, keep it up 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piersquared Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Joined. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki11ie Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Some momentum, anyone who can afford to join get signed up, and if u have family or pals who can get them signed up aswell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithytennis Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Joined 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebigguy68 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Folks. Confession. Although I been a lifelong killie fan. And a true fan in most ways anyone could measure. I have not always been a season ticket holder. I go to all games i can. Almost all home games an around 40 % aways. I got kids and they have their demands. I’m lucky I got a job where I earn good money. I want to do what I reasonably can to help progression of club. I’m not a tik member. I don’t believe in fan owned clubs as I think those who are experienced in all aspects of business and have an “ affinity” are better to drive sucess than the fan based model. BUT I would like to add something. Is there room for support/investment from this perspective or am I at odds with the objectives of tik? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Buy shares!! £1 each. Really easy to do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jmthmsn Posted January 13, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) On 1/12/2019 at 10:10 PM, Thebigguy68 said: Folks. Confession. Although I been a lifelong killie fan. And a true fan in most ways anyone could measure. I have not always been a season ticket holder. I go to all games i can. Almost all home games an around 40 % aways. I got kids and they have their demands. I’m lucky I got a job where I earn good money. I want to do what I reasonably can to help progression of club. I’m not a tik member. I don’t believe in fan owned clubs as I think those who are experienced in all aspects of business and have an “ affinity” are better to drive sucess than the fan based model. BUT I would like to add something. Is there room for support/investment from this perspective or am I at odds with the objectives of tik? Thebigguy68 - We're pretty much on the same page here and I don't read how your "at odds" with us. Fair enough, you don't believe in fan owned clubs but some like Hearts and Motherwell are doing well, with St. Mirren not very far behind. It's important to understand that fan owned doesn't mean fan run......and we certainly will never be anywhere near picking the team (although influencing the choice of manager seems to be working!) Have a look at the TiK FAQ's https://killietrust.killiefc.com/en/trust-in-killie-faq_52033/ "The ultimate aim of the Trust is for us to be the majority shareholder in our Club, (50% +1) to put it in the hands of the people who care for it the most and safeguard our Club for future generations. We want our Club to be run by the right mix of local business people who have the love of the Club and the community as the sole reason for their involvement, where every penny of profit is reinvested." We're a million miles away from owning the relevant amount of shares (50% + 1) to achieve this aim and it certainly won't happen in my lifetime, although I'm proud to say that the Trust IS currently the fourth biggest shareholder and we ARE working with the "right mix of local business people" who are running our Club. Since the Trust was founded, we've donated almost £250k into our Club. Every single penny raised by our Trust in Killie campaign goes into our Club's coffers in exchange for shares to boost supporter influence. The money goes to projects which benefit our Club. Trust members get a say on what these projects are. C'mon, join the Trust. Consider subscribing to our TiK campaign. Every donation is vital no matter the amount. If money is an issue, the Trust would be delighted if you could donate some time to help out in some way. There'll be projects coming up very soon where we will be looking for volunteer help from our membership. Happy to sit down with you and have a blether on any of this if it suits. Supporters and the Club working together to make Killie the best it can be. Whats not to love? Edited January 14, 2019 by jmthmsn 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Thebigguy68 said: I don’t believe in fan owned clubs as I think those who are experienced in all aspects of business and have an “ affinity” are better to drive sucess than the fan based model. How many business people buying into football clubs understand that business? In practice, football clubs have traditionally been owned and run by local businessmen who had deep pockets and perhaps saw owning the club as a status symbol and as a way to enhance their core business. I'm sure many had an altruistic motive too. More recently, especially at the biggest Plc clubs, business people have seen investing in clubs as a blatant way to line their own pockets and they often have no affinity with the game, the club or even the local area. Think Mike Ashley or the Glazers. Having a substantial supporters' shareholding helps protect the club against decisions which might not be in its best interests, including falling into the "wrong" hands. Being fan-owned doesn't mean the club will be run by enthusiastic but naïve amateurs. Edited January 13, 2019 by skygod 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieDIV Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) On 1/11/2019 at 9:46 PM, rb_506 said: Join the Trust! Joined in October mate, still to receive the badge! Edited January 13, 2019 by KillieDIV 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 keep it up folks, could be getting 60-75k a year at this rate. That’s a decent players wages 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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