NorfolkG Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) The board didn’t sell Jones on the cheap despite a lot of pressure. Which was brave. The fans stuck with the team in a grim first quarter tonight. End result - Jones scores winner as we embarrass them yet again. I’ve been delighted to see teams stand up to the Old Firm the last couple of seasons and show that they aren’t all that great after all. Edited January 23, 2019 by NorfolkG 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Night and day from games under our so called previous Managers ......when these games were often lost before kick off .......and they often just wanted to get away without getting humiliated........ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkG Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Totally different mind set on and off pitch... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebigguy68 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Never seen us win from a goal behind against old firm till last season...now i seen 3 in quick succession..amazing mentality.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Second half team.... And THEY must be sick of that being the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDeeBop Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 What is SSC's record against the OF since his start compared to other managers in the she period? It must be utter night and day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1el Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 As mentioned under previous managers (Shiels aside) these games were lost before kick off, this in turn passed on to the fans, now the turnaround is incredible. Don't know the stats but feels like we have accumulated more points in the last season & half than we did in the previous 10yrs! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, Dan1el said: As mentioned under previous managers (Shiels aside) these games were lost before kick off, this in turn passed on to the fans, now the turnaround is incredible. Don't know the stats but feels like we have accumulated more points in the last season & half than we did in the previous 10yrs! Jim Jeffries 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, killie1961 said: Jim Jeffries How many times under Jefferies did we hear "You don't budget for points against the old firm" or "Anything against the old firm is a bonus". The only two managers we've had any real success with against them have been the two managers who set us up well tactically and believe we can beat them. Our attitude against the old firm has been shocking over the years. Before Clarke we were slipping into the territory of not budgeting for points against top 6 sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, killie1961 said: Jim Jeffries Although Jefferies did quite well for a few seasons he always talked as if he was at a "wee team" and we couldn't expect to compete against the big boys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie billies pal Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 We didn’t beat Rangers once at RP under Shiels or Jefferies, can’t even remember beating Celtic at home either tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve101 Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, killie billies pal said: We didn’t beat Rangers once at RP under Shiels or Jefferies, can’t even remember beating Celtic at home either tbh Yes we did. Kilmarnock 1 Rangers 0 - Pascali, under Shiels. The "People from Kilmarnock should support Kilmarnock" game. First home win vs them since 1994. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbk Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, steve101 said: Yes we did. Kilmarnock 1 Rangers 0 - Pascali, under Shiels. The "People from Kilmarnock should support Kilmarnock" game. First home win vs them since 1994. 12 minutes ago, killie billies pal said: We didn’t beat Rangers once at RP under Shiels or Jefferies, can’t even remember beating Celtic at home either tbh Engage brain before opening mouth methinks!! 12 minutes ago, killie billies pal said: We didn’t beat Rangers once at RP under Shiels or Jefferies, can’t even remember beating Celtic at home either tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Reid Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 I have a hazy recollection of being 2 down at half time at Ibrox and winning 3-2. This was probably around the 64/65 season? My memory of the night we put 6 (not a misprint) past Celtic is much clearer with my father telling me to sit down and shut as I was screaming "I WANT TEN". This was long before segregation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie billies pal Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Bbk said: Why would I start now memory isn’t what it used to be, oh feck, where’s your quote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkG Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Dan1el said: As mentioned under previous managers (Shiels aside) these games were lost before kick off, this in turn passed on to the fans, now the turnaround is incredible. Don't know the stats but feels like we have accumulated more points in the last season & half than we did in the previous 10yrs! I feel we went toe to toe under Mixu but were too reckless, especially that ‘pass out’ game at RP. Jefferies, who I liked overall, treated the OF games very poorly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Hadn't seen us beat rangers live until last season and now it's 2 in 2 seasons. I'd always avoided the old firm games and watched on tv but wouldn't be anywhere else, why would you want to miss that atmosphere. Ripping the absolute piss out of Worrall and then are you worrall in disguise to Jack. Superb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Travis Posted January 25, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 It goes to show just how important the role of the manager is - both in training and developing the team, but also in setting attitude, aspiration and belief amongst the club in its widest sense. In my years of supporting Killie, the ones which really stand out are Burns, Shiels and Clarke. They knew how to put together a team, develop it and make players better. They also knew that you had to build the wider community of fans etc, and bring them with you in order to really succeed. Bobby W and Mixu deserve honourable mentions too. What really stands out is the post-Shiels succession of absolute landfill placeholder managers with zero ideas or aspirations, and just how much Clarke has been able to turn things around in a remarkably short space of time. Basic things I look for from a manager every time: be able to organise a team in all circumstances; be able to make players better no matter who they are; be able to bring fans along with you and build community of support. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiehippo Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Excellent post Travis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillkieBoab Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 20 hours ago, George Reid said: I have a hazy recollection of being 2 down at half time at Ibrox and winning 3-2. This was probably around the 64/65 season? My memory of the night we put 6 (not a misprint) past Celtic is much clearer with my father telling me to sit down and shut as I was screaming "I WANT TEN". This was long before segregation That will be the game where we were two up at halftime, went behind 3-2 and then equalised right at the end. Remember Sandy McLaughlin letting a shot squirm through his legs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 According to SkySports Clarke has won five, drawn five and lost two against the Old Firm. We have scored thirteen and conceded fourteen. This presumably includes the five-nil at Celtic Park before Christmas. That is probably more than the last ten managers combined. Fetch, @skygod, fetch! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boydiesback Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Was Shiels not manager when we capitulated to the 5-0 home defeat that saw the Huns win the league? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumack Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Travis said: Basic things I look for from a manager every time: be able to organise a team in all circumstances; be able to make players better no matter who they are; be able to bring fans along with you and build community of support. Assuming here "be able to organise a team in all circumstances" also covers being able to adapt to changing circumstances in front of him after the game has started. Something I'm really impressed in Clarke for. The likes of Gerrard for example don't have it, as evidenced on Wednesday night when rangers came out and did exactly what they were doing in the first half. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, stumack said: Assuming here "be able to organise a team in all circumstances" also covers being able to adapt to changing circumstances in front of him after the game has started. Something I'm really impressed in Clarke for. The likes of Gerrard for example don't have it, as evidenced on Wednesday night when rangers came out and did exactly what they were doing in the first half. Yes, absolutely part of what I mean. Basics are being able to organise your team through training and drilling them to be able to execute core plan without having to think too much about it. But where the really good managers come into their own is in recognising that no plan survives contact with the enemy (Yes, that's right people I'm quoting Helmuth van Moltke, what of it?) The best managers are able to adapt their plan to get the better of an opponent's plan, and crucially communicate that to players on the go - something which Clarke clearly excels at, and where absolute beginners like Gerrard get shown up because of their lack of knowledge and experience. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkG Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, boydiesback said: Was Shiels not manager when we capitulated to the 5-0 home defeat that saw the Huns win the league? As was Clarke when we got pumped 5-1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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