Pedro'sBrither Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Are terrible..... -9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, Pedro'sBrither said: Are terrible..... Not a fan of Tshibola but thought he did alright tonight. Agree about Ndjoli. Too lightweight needs to be more physical. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro'sBrither Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Fair enough but just thought tshibola gave away too many stupid fouls and ran in to people. For 2 guys contracted to premier league teams it's embarrassing. Playing for non-league English teams once done with us... -10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Killie Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 I just don’t think the role suited Ndjoli. He’s simply not a lone striker but we were very low on options. He worked but was up against an experienced hard man. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Killie Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 I must admit it was a heart sinker to see him as the lone striker at the start. My confidence faded pretty quickly. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killie lad Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Inb4 'Tshibola gets soo much uncalled for stick' despite the fact he creates nothing, gives away fouls constantly, loses the ball through dilly-dallying. Apparently winning a couple of tackles and making a few basic passes is good enough. Personally I can't stand watching him strut about while power and dicker give their everything every match 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Njodli is still young and playing as a lone striker is beyond his current capabilities. Given that and the obvious unavailability of other strikers I thought SSC might have started with him and Miller and sacrificed Tshibola in midfield. He didn’t and it wasn’t working with Njoldi up there on his own so I thought SSC should have had Miller on earlier. Edited February 1, 2019 by historyman 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Killie Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Fair point as it clearly wasn’t working. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scouser2 Posted February 2, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Find it baffling , we are on a fantastic consistent positive run , one of the best periods in our history .......and one or 2 posters resort to name calling players picked by one of the best Managers we have had....and using ridiculous terms like embarrassing ...... way OTT 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Killie Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Killie lad said: Inb4 'Tshibola gets soo much uncalled for stick' despite the fact he creates nothing, gives away fouls constantly, loses the ball through dilly-dallying. Apparently winning a couple of tackles and making a few basic passes is good enough. Personally I can't stand watching him strut about while power and dicker give their everything every match I think that’s part of the issue around Tshibola. If you’re comparing him to two players who could make the SPL team of the season (esp Power) he’s always going to come up well short. I get frustrated with him too, but sometimes he’s doing a number of small things well. The best argument for him being in the team at the moment is that SSC sees the value in it and he knows more about football than all of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Ndjoli can trap a ball further than I can kick it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro'sBrither Posted February 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Scouser2 said: Find it baffling , we are on a fantastic consistent positive run , one of the best periods in our history .......and one or 2 posters resort to name calling players picked by one of the best Managers we have had....and using ridiculous terms like embarrassing ...... way OTT You his dad? In all seriousness we all know Clarke has done wonders for us but it doesn't mean he is immune to mistakes either. Edited February 2, 2019 by Pedro'sBrither 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro'sBrither Posted February 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Neilly said: Ndjoli can trap a ball further than I can kick it Correct -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie89 Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 I think Tshibola probably does a lot of things that I don’t notice, but that Clarke really values given that he has proper football knowledge. But we surely need so much more from him. I can’t remember the last time he did anything of any real consequence in a game. When you’ve got Power and Dicker playing out of their skins doing the unfashionable side of the game, we need another midfielder in there who is going to give us some creativity and a goal threat. Sad to say it but at the moment Tshibola is giving us neither. Phenomenal as we have been under Clarke, the lack of goals from centre midfield puts so much pressure on our attackers. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldkillie Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Pedro'sBrither said: Are terrible..... Seriously bud was you at the game tonight or was you too busy bangin wan Oot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bute-killiefan Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Pish. Tshibola was fine tonight, Ndjoli was asked too much due to injuries and suspensions. Chill the f**k out 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTIDanny85 Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Ndjoli isn't gd enough to be playing the lone striker role. He really struggled, how many s**ts did the lad even have? Tish seems to have potential and shows it at times but he isn't consistent and how passing and first touch is terrible. Hopefully both get dropped for next game, get Mulumbu and Brophy on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiepies Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Tishbola always looks lazy and doesn't seem to use his strength but not the worst display off him last night .As for Ndjoli his 1st touch is a tackle and never a lone striker .Boyd might be past his sell by but if he had been playing last night he would have gave Berra and Co a lot more to think about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker71 Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Tish was in the top three Killie players last night, just behind power and burke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 IMO the pair are easy targets for some. I didn’t think Tshibola was bad last night. He didn’t create anything seems a common opinion. Well he’s not a creative midfielder so why are we judging him on that. In terms of Ndjoli that was a thankless task. Up against three CBs on his own with no space in the channels because the fullback were dropping in. Yes his first touch was poor but some of the service he got was horrific. I’d ont think we got the best out of him. For me he should have been on the shoulder of the CBs all night and looking to get him in behind rather than challenging. On the occasions when he did get to stretch his legs the Hearts defence was worried. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhamkillieken Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Neilly said: Ndjoli can trap a ball further than I can kick it his first touch with back to goal was honking, took him away from goal by about 10 yards nearly every rime. just out of position last night i fear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdj Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Feel Hearts caught us at just the right time last night, weakened squad(Ndjoli as lone striker was never going to work against Souttar/Berra)...... McLean and his assistants were poor...... only attacking option on bench was Millar (who looked decent, but SSC should have freshened it earlier)...... Hearts 'old manned' us and, imho, deserved to win....... hopefully once our new signings bed in we will get going again P.S. am not a fan of Tish BUT thought he was better than he usually is last night. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyhigh Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Power was immense in the middle. Dicker was immense supporting the defence. Tshibola, who was supposed to be supporting Ndjoli, wasn’t and the link between midfield and attack was again lacking. I thought ndjoli did ok in the air v the big lumps and held the ball up well on occasion but the lad isn’t very composed yet and his first touch can be awful. Saw more from Miller in the short time he was on the park. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Beaker71 said: Tish was in the top three Killie players last night, just behind power and burke I thought Tshibola looked decent once he became irritated by Hearts antics. Seemed to be the case when he bossed Mulumbu too. Perhaps that’s the key to getting the best out of him. He’s maybe just one of those guys that play better angry. Someone should maybe take him aside and say our opponents key man has been saying disrespectful stuff about his mum. Or deep heat in his boxers might fire him up. 1 hour ago, piffer said: IMO the pair are easy targets for some. I didn’t think Tshibola was bad last night. He didn’t create anything seems a common opinion. Well he’s not a creative midfielder so why are we judging him on that. In terms of Ndjoli that was a thankless task. Up against three CBs on his own with no space in the channels because the fullback were dropping in. Yes his first touch was poor but some of the service he got was horrific. I’d ont think we got the best out of him. For me he should have been on the shoulder of the CBs all night and looking to get him in behind rather than challenging. On the occasions when he did get to stretch his legs the Hearts defence was worried. Spot on. I’m becoming concerned their skin colour is... if not an issue...an easy/lazy way to identify them and focus on their mistakes/performance. Before anyone jumps on their high horse, im not suggesting overt racism, but there have been equally bad performances from other players that don’t draw the same criticism. You have to wonder if it’s because they stand out more. Sort of similar to ye olde days, when everyone wore black boots and the sentiment “you better be able to play if you’re wearing fancy coloured boots” was the mood of the time. Lights fuse and retreats to a safe distance. Edited February 2, 2019 by Zorro -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRonFaeTheQueenVic Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Zorro said: Spot on. I’m becoming concerned their skin colour is... if not an issue...an easy/lazy way to focus on their mistakes/performance. Before anyone jumps on their high horse, im not suggesting overt racism, but there have been equally bad performances from other players that don’t draw the same criticism. You have to wonder if it’s because they stand out more. Sort of similar to ye olde days, when everyone wore black boots and the sentiment “you better be able to play if you’re wearing fancy coloured boots” was the mood of the time. Lights fuse and retreats to a safe distance. You've lit the fuse all right. For what it's worth I agree with you- certainly in the case of Tshibola & some of the constant (non-racial but relentless) reaction he seems to provoke in some. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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