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16 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

Life would all be different under Indy, eh? 

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Mate this isnt right if indeed true, but it pales into insignificant when compared to the mccrone report and other stuff from the British elite.

Your misdirection and constant attempts to rationalise your obsession with maintaining an abnormal union borders on needing some medical help.

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20 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

No, but they would have none of them and a hell of a lot less when they lost the pooling subsidy and had to get the deficit down to EU standards. BIG cuts.

You need to get off the GERS bandwagon mate, it's really sad for you.  So here once and for all is a little help...

GERS, which is an estimate if an estimate and uses assumptions on spending which do NOT reflect reality,  is the picture of how Scotland is managed IN the union.  It does not and never will ever represent an independent Scotland or its fiscal position.

You keep going on about this pooling funding but your delusional.  The extra supposed pooling is based on what the UK government supposedly spends or rather the spend they attribute to Scotland from their overall spend.

If you cannot grasp.that simple fact then your Donald ducked.  Smog and dont bother with your usual, look the SNP agree with GERS,   you know fill well that's a political strategy just as GERS is itself.

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I see the National loudly trumpeting it is the Scottish Government's position that there will be an independence referendum in 2020.

Given the Westminster government, whose agreement will be required according to the First Minister, with a 5 year term have just said "eff off an die" to such a proposal. Can anybody help resolve this bump in the space time continuum / absolute contradiction for me? 

 

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14 minutes ago, bute-killiefan said:

I know this is wasted on you. But the SNP is not the entire indy movement. 

This was not "their finest hour" by some way. However, I'm not sure how the SNP government doing what any other government would gave done has any relevance to independence.

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The absolute irresponsibility of basing an economy on a volatile commodity. The admission Scotland has more spent on it than the rest of the UK UNDER THE UNION. (But we’re oppressed...boo hoo hoo). The utter disgrace of where they’re priorities lie. The proof that nationalists world wide are bats**t crazy. You’re welcome. 

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41 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:


 

The absolute irresponsibility of basing an economy on a volatile commodity. The admission Scotland has more spent on it than the rest of the UK UNDER THE UNION. (But we’re oppressed...boo hoo hoo). The utter disgrace of where they’re priorities lie. The proof that nationalists world wide are bats**t crazy. You’re welcome. 

Nothing you have posted will have any impact on the move towards an independent Scotland. I have many times pointed out reasons to be cautions about seeing independence as a solution to anything but people keep on shouting we have to try something. The fact that the SNP are cack handed blundering incompetents whose former leader is accused of being little better than a "dirty old man" just wont put a scratch on he indyref movement. 

40 years of focusing government policy on boosting the economy of the SE of England comes with a downside and this is it.

The fact that people in the north of England are just as hacked off to the point they think Brexit is the answer is completely lost on Scottish voters. 

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48 minutes ago, Mclean07 said:

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The absolute irresponsibility of basing an economy on a volatile commodity. The admission Scotland has more spent on it than the rest of the UK UNDER THE UNION. (But we’re oppressed...boo hoo hoo). The utter disgrace of where they’re priorities lie. The proof that nationalists world wide are bats**t crazy. You’re welcome. 

Literally WHERE does any of that say more is spent on us than anywhere else.   You literally trawl thr interweb for s**te to suit your twisted bulls**t.

I've given you THREE simple breakdowns of why your supposed 13 billion black hole is nonsense and wont represent an independent Scotland and you've refused to acknowledge them because it absolutely owns your position and blows all of your arguments out of the water. 

As for quoting the walloper cloe Hamilton,  absolutely shame on you.

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On 3/10/2020 at 12:09 PM, Beaker71 said:

Literally WHERE does any of that say more is spent on us than anywhere else.   You literally trawl thr interweb for s**te to suit your twisted bulls**t.

I've given you THREE simple breakdowns of why your supposed 13 billion black hole is nonsense and wont represent an independent Scotland and you've refused to acknowledge them because it absolutely owns your position and blows all of your arguments out of the water. 

As for quoting the walloper cloe Hamilton,  absolutely shame on you.

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Maybe you need your eyes tested. From the horses mouth, as well.

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1 hour ago, Mclean07 said:

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Maybe you need your eyes tested. From the horses mouth, as well.

This only confirms that the SNP spends this, not that the UK gives scotland this.  You really need to try and understand your own posts, without literally posting something and writing something which is different.

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1 hour ago, bute-killiefan said:

A Labour voter complaining that the Scottish government has the highest public spending in the UK. What a time to be alive

Especially when he hasn't a clue how this all works and obviously believes that the UK gives Scotland money and not a partial refund on its taxes.  The UK then spends the rest on "stuff", then decides how much they've spent on Scotland and then says Scotland has a deficit.

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1 hour ago, bute-killiefan said:

A Labour voter complaining that the Scottish government has the highest public spending in the UK. What a time to be alive

Erm, no,  a Labour voter that welcomes high public spending and knows that without the pooling of resources in the UK we would be slashing expenditure as the Brigadoon economics of Indy collapsed, as it was based on oil at $100 a barrel. 
 

An SNP voter, who rejoices in the fruits of the aunion. What a time to be alive! 

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2 minutes ago, Beaker71 said:

Especially when he hasn't a clue how this all works and obviously believes that the UK gives Scotland money and not a partial refund on its taxes.  The UK then spends the rest on "stuff", then decides how much they've spent on Scotland and then says Scotland has a deficit.

Crap. It’s spent on pensions and welfare (as the Nats couldn’t handle it and had to give it back to mummy and daddy Westminster). After you schoolboy stuff on oil revenue.....hahahahaha........I wouldn’t show my face for a while. 

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1 hour ago, Mclean07 said:

Crap. It’s spent on pensions and welfare (as the Nats couldn’t handle it and had to give it back to mummy and daddy Westminster). After you schoolboy stuff on oil revenue.....hahahahaha........I wouldn’t show my face for a while. 

Sorry but absolute s**te.  The Scottish government handed them back because the UK system wasnt properly ready.

Again you've shown your complete lack of knowledge on GERS as it represents how Scotland is mismanaged in the f**king union you absolute clown.

The UK government assigns spend to Scotland under population share and generalisations.  FFS man gers says that Scotland has spent 4billion on defence, and the same on the foreign office, and over 3 on the civil service.  We also spend on the upkeep of WM, as well as lots of money spent in London. 

Jesus wept man, admit when your bloody wrong.

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