Riccarton Bluebell Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Zorro said: Where’s the incentive to change to QR code ticketing if you are still able to obtain a printed ticket for the same price? Why should the club be financially penalised for doing a job most households can do themselves in a maximum of ten minutes? As you say, time is money and people are quick enough to moan about all the other jobs the staff should be doing. It would seem unfair when they’re tied up dealing with stuff like this. You do realise it cost the club many thousands of pounds to set up the QR code ticketing system. Maybe the club could recoup some of that outlay by charging folk extra that use the system? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammy_boy Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, FTAD said: I'd be surprised if they were fully sold out. I bought two East stand tickets at the back of 11 last night and it was single seats only in the central blocks but there were plenty available towards both corners, front and back. Maybe a couple of hundred. Maube trying to force sales into the Moffat to fill it up a bit? I agree there is no way the east is fully sold out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: You do realise it cost the club many thousands of pounds to set up the QR code ticketing system. Maybe the club could recoup some of that outlay by charging folk extra that use the system? The system will pay for its self over the course of a couple of games, while the Luddite option will continue to drain resources. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: You do realise it cost the club many thousands of pounds to set up the QR code ticketing system. Maybe the club could recoup some of that outlay by charging folk extra that use the system? They did that as in the long term it'll save the club money. Having folk standing in a queue doesn't. Neither does printing tickets (which will also become obsolete in time) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan56 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 The question on Thursday night will be why are there so many empty seats in the east and FB when it looked to be almost sold out. I think the position is being managed between online and shop sales. My ST is in block 21 FB and was “fully booked” on day one- it’s now showing white on the site. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: You do realise it cost the club many thousands of pounds to set up the QR code ticketing system. Maybe the club could recoup some of that outlay by charging folk extra that use the system? You do realise that adding a charge to the new system would deter people from using it? Which would render the thousands spent utterly wasteful. I would charge a fiver for paper tickets bought in person. The fee needs to be a deterrent, not a mild inconvenience. We've had three big games in the last wee while which the club sold lots of tickets for - Aberdeen in the Cup, Rangers at home at the end of the season, and Thursday night. I bought tickets in person for the first two, and it was nothing short of a ****ing shambles. Proper Keystone cops stuff. For the Aberdeen game you had the club shop, the shop in the town and the office all selling tickets, blissfully unaware of what the others were doing. For the Rangers game I stood in a queue for half an hour in the club shop, even though there were only three folk in front of me. For Thursday nights game, I clicked on the link provided by the club, picked a seat, paid, and within ten seconds had a message saying it was in my wallet. As for the old buggers with Nokia 3310s, they seem to get on Ryanair flights OK, so if there is a £5 charge for a ticket, they'll find a way to get an e-ticket. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killieblueboy Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, cammy_boy said: Maube trying to force sales into the Moffat to fill it up a bit? I agree there is no way the east is fully sold out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richaway Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 How will they manage online sales for the home end for old firm games? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppskillie Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Charging a booking fee on either option is ludicrous...we are supposed to be encouraging not discouraging fans to attend matches. Scottish football is expensive enough without adding booking fees to the cost. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimuck Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 On the Ticketco site only Moffat Stand seats now available. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikastar Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Steppskillie said: Charging a booking fee on either option is ludicrous...we are supposed to be encouraging not discouraging fans to attend matches. Scottish football is expensive enough without adding booking fees to the cost. I could not agree more. Its different for a gig (although, I think that’s a rip off too) as they don’t happen every second week over a 9months. if Killie were to start charging admin fees, then they can count me out, which is a pity, cos they’ve only just got me and my bestie back over the last couple of seasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 32 minutes ago, Scooby_Doo said: You do realise that adding a charge to the new system would deter people from using it? Which would render the thousands spent utterly wasteful. I would charge a fiver for paper tickets bought in person. The fee needs to be a deterrent, not a mild inconvenience. We've had three big games in the last wee while which the club sold lots of tickets for - Aberdeen in the Cup, Rangers at home at the end of the season, and Thursday night. I bought tickets in person for the first two, and it was nothing short of a ****ing shambles. Proper Keystone cops stuff. For the Aberdeen game you had the club shop, the shop in the town and the office all selling tickets, blissfully unaware of what the others were doing. For the Rangers game I stood in a queue for half an hour in the club shop, even though there were only three folk in front of me. For Thursday nights game, I clicked on the link provided by the club, picked a seat, paid, and within ten seconds had a message saying it was in my wallet. As for the old buggers with Nokia 3310s, they seem to get on Ryanair flights OK, so if there is a £5 charge for a ticket, they'll find a way to get an e-ticket. Aye,feel free to fire into the old buggers,easy target. The one doing the most moaning about tickets wasn't an old bugger, unless he buys smoke bombs with his pension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lions13 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 56 minutes ago, killieblueboy said: Still nothing from rugby park regarding ticket sales tomorrow.. WHY ??? It might be there will be no ticket sales tomorrow. Does anyone know the UEFA rules? We might not be able to sell on the day of the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mikastar said: Its different for a gig (although, I think that’s a rip off too) as they don’t happen every second week over a 9months. Speak for yourself - I attend a lot of gigs! But all-ticket Killie matches are, for now, rare. If you have a season ticket, it’s only some cup-ties which should affect you. Even if you haven’t got a season ticket, you should still be able to pay at the gate at most matches. The number of matches where most people have to buy a ticket should be negligible. Edited July 17, 2019 by skygod 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton Bluebell Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, Scooby_Doo said: You do realise that adding a charge to the new system would deter people from using it? Which would render the thousands spent utterly wasteful. I would charge a fiver for paper tickets bought in person. The fee needs to be a deterrent, not a mild inconvenience. We've had three big games in the last wee while which the club sold lots of tickets for - Aberdeen in the Cup, Rangers at home at the end of the season, and Thursday night. I bought tickets in person for the first two, and it was nothing short of a ****ing shambles. Proper Keystone cops stuff. For the Aberdeen game you had the club shop, the shop in the town and the office all selling tickets, blissfully unaware of what the others were doing. For the Rangers game I stood in a queue for half an hour in the club shop, even though there were only three folk in front of me. For Thursday nights game, I clicked on the link provided by the club, picked a seat, paid, and within ten seconds had a message saying it was in my wallet. As for the old buggers with Nokia 3310s, they seem to get on Ryanair flights OK, so if there is a £5 charge for a ticket, they'll find a way to get an e-ticket. To charge a fan extra to buy a ticket by any method is complete and utter madness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Wrangodog said: Aye,feel free to fire into the old buggers,easy target. The one doing the most moaning about tickets wasn't an old bugger, unless he buys smoke bombs with his pension. I'm not firing into the old buggers - someone else was on their behalf! I think they'll cope just fine, especially if the alternative is paying a fiver. 12 minutes ago, Mikastar said: I could not agree more. Its different for a gig (although, I think that’s a rip off too) as they don’t happen every second week over a 9months. if Killie were to start charging admin fees, then they can count me out, which is a pity, cos they’ve only just got me and my bestie back over the last couple of seasons. We're only talking about admin fees for the tickets that require substantial admin, i.e paper tickets. I wouldn't charge to use the app because we want to encourage that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Squirrelhumper Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I think the East had maybe 200 seats left and they've just pulled it to try and 1) get a big crowd in the Moffat and 2) avoid the scenario of fans standing on stairs in a fully sold out East Stand as our fans seem to be the only fans in the world incapable of reading f**king seat numbers and just sitting where they want. I don't blame the club if they've done so for either of the above. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Riccarton Bluebell said: To charge a fan extra to buy a ticket by any method is complete and utter madness. Fans queuing hours for tickets meaning the club has to pay for extra staff when they are actively trying to encourage online sales is even madder IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 A 50p service charge on actual tickets would cover the additional costs put upon the club by the non digital persons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killieblueboy Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Lions13 said: It might be there will be no ticket sales tomorrow. Does anyone know the UEFA rules? We might not be able to sell on the day of the game. Would help immensely if supporters were told this well in advance ..some supporters from outwith the area may make a journey not knowing there will be no tickets for sale on match day -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiekosmos Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 hours ago, Zorro said: An additional charge isn’t a barrier, it’s a fee for providing an extra service. Times change and people need to change with them because every penny counts for the club, if we want to keep being a top six side. You know that old proverb “for want of a nail”? Think of it like that with the booking fee as the nail. Replace horseshoes etc with sales of things like football shirts, advertising boards, hospitality packages. Which allow us to bring in better players and increased prize money for higher league finishing positions. If staff are wasting time on tickets, they don’t have time to nail those damn horseshoes on. The old boys with their Nokia 3310’s get cut price concessionary tickets, an extra quid isn’t going to break the bank for them. Plenty of casual ageism here. If we want to get people to use the online systems them make them slick, don't try to force people by adding costs and potentially losing customers, while the new systems can't cope. The online system is not yet robust. Remember all the problems surrounding season tickets? The club had to organise open evenings to sort out the problems caused by the new system. For Thursday's match remember the message to call if your seat was unavailable in FB due to computer problems, then no one answered the phone? First rule of sales: the customer is always right, so if customer wants a physical ticket, give them one but also make it slick enough that they might try the on line system too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiekosmos Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Fans queuing hours for tickets meaning the club has to pay for extra staff when they are actively trying to encourage online sales is even madder IMO. If they want online sales then make sure systems work properly! Remember problems with season tickets on line? Club had to run evening sessions to fix them, involving extra staff. For this week, there were problems with FB seats and club said to call but no one answered the phones as not enough staff to cope with the weaknesses of computer system. If you have robust systems working properly then on line sales will boom but we still need to offer alternatives too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killie61 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Can see both points of view, and I for one would quite happily use the website to purchase my tickets and I tried several times, however what about the supporters that want to sit in specific stand, area or seat for example in the FB stand, when the web sales opened almost all of the FB was showing as unavailable and we had no option but to queue up and purchase tickets, not our fault so why should we be punished and made to pay more ? When we eventually got to the window at the ticket office they didn’t offer the option to open the section up and book our tickets only that we could collect a ticket and pay for it on another day. If the club could sort out the issue of making the stands and sections available I’m sure the majority of fans would get their tickets this way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby_Doo Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I've been buying things and trying to give the club money in person for over 20 years, and that system is far from robust. The in-person system has never worked well when stressed with a big game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_dug Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I always prefer a physical ticket in my hand for football, gigs etc. More reliable and say your phone dies or whatever, you're gubbed. Also i always keep my stubs. In all probability paper tickets will disappear in the next few years the same way as football coupons etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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