Killietillidieu84 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) Do we as a support believe that angelo can be trusted to being in any decent players as the signings so far have been players who we had previously and a goalkeeper who he already knew of. I dont have any confidence that he could spot player playing in front of him. He says the same things in his interviews we will train hard the warm up today a thought we were late out for it for a start the goalies looked like the had no idea what was happening translation problems. The rest looked bit disjointed and rushed. Any thoughts?? Edited August 10, 2019 by Killietillidieu84 -21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy123 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 I lost faith after our euro embarrassment. didnt think it could get worse, but Hamilton 2 nil with 10men it did. -8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy123 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Bye Bye Angelo -12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, Killietillidieu84 said: Do we as a support believe that angelo can be trusted to being in any decent players as the signings so far have been players who we had previously and a goalkeeper who he already knew of. I dont have any confidence that he could spot player playing in front of him. He says the same things in his interviews we will train hard the warm up today a thought we were late out for it for a start the goalies looked like the had no idea what was happening translation problems. The rest looked bit disjointed and rushed. Any thoughts?? 4 minutes ago, andy123 said: I lost faith after our euro embarrassment. didnt think it could get worse, but Hamilton 2 nil with 10men it did. But our chairman said we had appointed the best manager in scotland -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Under Clarke our warmups were shorter but more intense than anyone else in the league. Only thing I noticed today was the keepers weren’t out as long. It looked like Dyer was putting them through the same outfield warm up today as it was last season. In terms of signings. I’m still of the opinion he’s looking in the wrong places. We all want to improve the squad but my concern is he’s aiming to high and that’s why we are coming up short. They are only rumours some of the names mentioned but the other clubs linked we are not in any sort of position to compete with. Will he get it right who knows. We all thought McCulloch had cocked up in the summer window but two years down the line the bulk of those signing finished third albeit they are propping up the table again now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1869 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 We were bottom under Mixu come October. Give him a chance to get the missing pieces in 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skygod Posted August 10, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 I'm sure he's a very good coach in the right environment but I don't have confidence in him as a manager at our level. I'd love to see a video of his interview because I think the two parties are totally unsuited. We need an experienced, hands-on gaffer who knows the transfer market inside out, with lots of contacts. We are an unpretentious provincial Scottish club, a million miles away from Juve, Chelsea and Italy. The board was spoiled with SC who probably helped them out a lot on footballing matters and had the team flying along. For whatever reason, they opted for a high-risk replacement who is used to working with armies of support staff. They probably thought success would continue unabated and a relationship could be built but things like the CEO and chief scout resigning haven't helped. It's no time to panic. A cool assessment of where the club wants to go needs to be made, starting with the appointment of the Football Executive. If AA is going to be given time, it might need further investment in resources to support him. He needs to get some quality players in quickly and to build his own team. If that means players leaving, so be it. Most of all, he needs to show some signs that the hard work done by SC in elevating the club's status on the pitch will not be undone. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieBus Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, skygod said: I'm sure he's a very good coach in the right environment but I don't have confidence in him as a manager at our level. I'd love to see a video of his interview because I think the two parties are totally unsuited. We need an experienced, hands-on gaffer who knows the transfer market inside out, with lots of contacts. We are an unpretentious provincial Scottish club, a million miles away from Juve, Chelsea and Italy. The board was spoiled with SC who probably helped them out a lot on footballing matters and had the team flying along. For whatever reason, they opted for a high-risk replacement who is used to working with armies of support staff. They probably thought success would continue unabated and a relationship could be built but things like the CEO and chief scout resigning haven't helped. It's no time to panic. A cool assessment of where the club wants to go needs to be made, starting with the appointment of the Football Executive. If AA is going to be given time, it might need further investment in resources to support him. He needs to get some quality players in quickly and to build his own team. If that means players leaving, so be it. Most of all, he needs to show some signs that the hard work done by SC in elevating the club's status on the pitch will not be undone. Agree with this. In Clarke leaving we have lost a good manager who was also doing the job of a Football Director as well by default due to his experience and the clubs lack of it. In effect, a double whammy of a loss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz65 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, killie1961 said: But our chairman said we had appointed the best manager in scotland Bowie has made a few silly comments in the media, starting with the one about It being possible for Killie to win the league. Stating that Alessio was the best manager in Scotland just set himself up for a fall. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme S Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, KillieBus said: Agree with this. In Clarke leaving we have lost a good manager who was also doing the job of a Football Director as well by default due to his experience and the clubs lack of it. In effect, a double whammy of a loss. I agree. In many respects by doing so much SC has set the club back a number of years. He alluded to it in his departure speech by saying that BB was the best Chairman ever.Of course what he meant by that was BB allowed him to do anything he pleased to do on behalf of the team. SC had an army of people working on his behalf some of whom I understand were paid by SC personally. If he had truly wanted to create a legacy for KFC then SC would have created permanent positions for the benefit of the club for years to come. Was a great 18 months though wasn't it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glencraigs_killie Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 There is still another 3 weeks of the transfer window to go if we have not signed anyone by then that can improve us then I will be worried until then give the team all the support you can . 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy123 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 hour ago, killie1961 said: But our chairman said we had appointed the best manager in scotland mmmmmm think he was talking s**te -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme S Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 The folks in Pepe's chippy in Kilwinning tell me that there is now way they would allow Angelo full control over the big fryer so sadly he's gotta go now. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieBus Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, Graeme S said: I agree. In many respects by doing so much SC has set the club back a number of years. He alluded to it in his departure speech by saying that BB was the best Chairman ever.Of course what he meant by that was BB allowed him to do anything he pleased to do on behalf of the team. SC had an army of people working on his behalf some of whom I understand were paid by SC personally. If he had truly wanted to create a legacy for KFC then SC would have created permanent positions for the benefit of the club for years to come. Was a great 18 months though wasn't it? An army? Bollocks. Paid for by Clarke? Bigger bollocks. Brought in Dyer and someone to help scout players. Both remained after he left. Alex still here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KA9Killie Posted August 11, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 As a teacher, the analogy I use is that we have appointed a university lecturer to teach a class who all have additional support needs. He might have the theoretical knowledge, but the environment is completely different to his previous experience. It's possible that he will learn quickly enough to make a success of it, but right now his teaching assistant (Alex Dyer) is miles ahead of him in understanding his pupils. Having grown up watching his brother playing for Killie, Steve Clarke knew the club well and understood what he was coming in to. He was going to manage players of similar ability to the St Mirren team he played in at the start of his career. With that background, plus having played with and coached some of the top players in the world, SC had a unique set of skills that we were never going to be able to replace like for like. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killieinkirkie Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 The next 6 games take us to the end of September Hamilton (h) LC Aberdeen (h) St Johnstone (a) Hibs (h) Celtic (a) Ross County (h) If (and I pray it's not the case) that we are still winless we could be out the cup and being cut adrift at the bottom surely then would be the time to cut our losses but hopefully things will be looking much rosier by then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muza1962 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 8 hours ago, killie1961 said: But our chairman said we had appointed the best manager in scotland We don’t have a chairman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch14 Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, killieinkirkie said: The next 6 games take us to the end of September Hamilton (h) LC Aberdeen (h) St Johnstone (a) Hibs (h) Celtic (a) Ross County (h) If (and I pray it's not the case) that we are still winless we could be out the cup and being cut adrift at the bottom surely then would be the time to cut our losses but hopefully things will be looking much rosier by then? That's the time scale for me. End of the transfer window and those six games. We still don't really have a sample size of games to properly judge. And he needs signings. The Rangers performance was very good. Yesterday appears was not. But Accies are a weird team who pull these results out and frustrate the best of managers. They best Aberdeen and Hearts last season with identical performances. We've seen some proper shambles in the last few years. We looked completely clueless and directionless in many games under McCulloch and Johnston in a way I don't think we yet have under Alessio. Ineffective but not hopeless. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfc_superteam Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 It's not a time to panic but at the back of our minds we've all seen the Dundee Utd, Partick Thistle, Hibernian seasons where coming off of a successful season they fall off a cliff due to loss of player confidence and just never getting out of a rut ending up in relegation. AA may come good and there are encouraging signs. My worry is the comedy defending for the goals we lose.. Would never happen under Steve Clarke and also the panic /heads going down of the players when we have a setback. This would not have happened last year and was arguably our biggest strength. Honeymoon period starting to go now and we very likely could have no points come the end of the Aberdeen game. The media will be heaping the pressure on AA with the Tom English's, Jim Duffys of the World being negative meaning our game v St Johnstone becomes a six pointer and maybe a point where if we lose AAs position is under serious threat. Lee McCulloch walked just after our 5th game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garvis Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 What the hell is going on last week we were unlucky to get beaten by The Rangers, this week we conceded 2 goals with no reply to what’s considered to be one of the worst teams in the league, what’s going on within the club, something needs to happen? -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merk Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 I was unenthused by his appointment, and everything since has built on that. Personally I’d have gave him jotters at 10pm on the evening of the Euro humiliation. Talk of giving him 10 games/till Xmas is crazy IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter's Heeder Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Merk said: I was unenthused by his appointment, and everything since has built on that. Personally I’d have gave him jotters at 10pm on the evening of the Euro humiliation. Talk of giving him 10 games/till Xmas is crazy IMO. So do we only give the next guy 3 or 4 league games as well? And the guy after that? I can't believe that in 2019 we're in a position where we think giving a new manager 10 games is a crazy idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merk Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Dieter's Heeder said: So do we only give the next guy 3 or 4 league games as well? And the guy after that? I can't believe that in 2019 we're in a position where we think giving a new manager 10 games is a crazy idea. Familiar with “in my opinion”? It’s just that, my opinion. I can’t believe that in 2019 sacking a boss for looking inept after a few games is a crazy idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter's Heeder Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 Just now, Merk said: Familiar with “in my opinion”? It’s just that, my opinion. I can’t believe that in 2019 sacking a boss for looking inept after a few games is a crazy idea. I get that it's your opinion, I never said anything to suggest otherwise. I'm just asking if the same will go for every manager from now on, 3-4 games and they're off? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merk Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dieter's Heeder said: I get that it's your opinion, I never said anything to suggest otherwise. I'm just asking if the same will go for every manager from now on, 3-4 games and they're off? Do you see anything that inspires confidence? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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