kfc_superteam Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Is this a goer or just media nonsense like Lafferty, Frédéric Frans, Stevie May and the rest who were linked with? Record seemed to think we were close yesterday! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 I think it's some cutting edge journalism from reading his name mentioned on these boards... I doubt there's a grain of truth it in, although would be delighted to see him at Rugby Park. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 I hope so would give us the drive in midfield which we are lacking. Would imagine killie would be a good option as somebody previously mentioned on this forum that he went to sevco (soon to be busto)to get back up to Scotland, so can’t imagine he go back to an English team but as you know in football money talks . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LH31 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Would imagine it'd be tricky getting insurance for a player who's been sidelined for the best part of 12 months 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie1 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, Graham said: I hope so would give us the drive in midfield which we are lacking. Would imagine killie would be a good option as somebody previously mentioned on this forum that he went to sevco (soon to be busto)to get back up to Scotland, so can’t imagine he go back to an English team but as you know in football money talks . Are you Graham Dorrans? looking for a gig lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVE_T Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 31 minutes ago, LH31 said: Would imagine it'd be tricky getting insurance for a player who's been sidelined for the best part of 12 months He has being playing regular for their under 23's I'm lead to believe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser2 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 hard these days to find a grain of truth in much of the media stories or internet rumours ---but we were definitely interested in Lafferty as well as "having conversations" with other players linked with us -- and as said by many surely there is enough of the budget left waiting on finding that quality "out of contract" player 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooosh77 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Someone on Facebook saying he was seen at Rugby Park today but again don’t know how much truth is in that! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prahakillie Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 From the Sun: "And the Daily Express claim Portsmouth, Bolton and Fleetwood Town are a number of the clubs interested in the 32-year-old. Kilmarnock were reportedly keen on doing a deal for the midfielder on loan but don't have the financial muscle to do a permanent transfer." So we don't have the financial muscle to compete with League 1 sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyt1965 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Prahakillie said: From the Sun: "And the Daily Express claim Portsmouth, Bolton and Fleetwood Town are a number of the clubs interested in the 32-year-old. Kilmarnock were reportedly keen on doing a deal for the midfielder on loan but don't have the financial muscle to do a permanent transfer." So we don't have the financial muscle to compete with League 1 sides. No surprise really, they'll have players earning 4/5k a week, maybe more, at some league one clubs. Dorrans has probably been on a lot more than that in his career too, but he has been lingering at rangers probably on a tidy package, maybe he's happy to play with us and take the pay cut to stay in Scotland rather than move his family down south again. who knows, time will tell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heynow2005 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Pisses me off that we dont have the financial muscle to complete with a league In which 1 team just went bust and another was a bawhair off it. The English football bubble will burst sooner or later with clubs paying over the odds for their positions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumack Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, Prahakillie said: So we don't have the financial muscle to compete with League 1 sides. This really isn't news. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, Prahakillie said: From the Sun: "And the Daily Express claim Portsmouth, Bolton and Fleetwood Town are a number of the clubs interested in the 32-year-old. Kilmarnock were reportedly keen on doing a deal for the midfielder on loan but don't have the financial muscle to do a permanent transfer." So we don't have the financial muscle to compete with League 1 sides. More than half of the League 1 sides have an average attendance higher than last season's Killie attendance when we were having our best year ever and a big name manager. That's 13 clubs, and it includes both Bolton and Portsmouth, whose average attendance is bigger than Rugby Park. If I understand it even League 2 clubs in England get more tv money than most Premier clubs in Scotland, and many of them will have bigger sponsorship deals into the bargains. So, no, we pretty much don't have the financial muscle to compete with many League 1 sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Ipswich and Sunderland in LEague one aswell now. The money in england is slowly working it's way down the leagues. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebigguy68 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Travis said: More than half of the League 1 sides have an average attendance higher than last season's Killie attendance when we were having our best year ever and a big name manager. That's 13 clubs, and it includes both Bolton and Portsmouth, whose average attendance is bigger than Rugby Park. If I understand it even League 2 clubs in England get more tv money than most Premier clubs in Scotland, and many of them will have bigger sponsorship deals into the bargains. So, no, we pretty much don't have the financial muscle to compete with many League 1 sides. We don’t have the financial money, on average, to pay players as much, true. An offer of employment has other factors beyond salary ( although that I accept is the primary piece). I’m all for 3 or 4 players getting a higher salary than the others. It’s a Scottish working class thing that all folks doing the “ same” job get paid the same. We should have our galacticos equivalent in our squad. Secondly, how many league 1 and 2 clubs players in England got Scotland caps in the last few years? Not many. Would Taylor, Findlay or SOD got caps - leading to much bigger steps forward likely - if playing for Sc**thorpe or Luton. Also, Scottish folks don’t aleays settle well away from home in football terms. Playing for a top team with European aspirations, on a somewhat competing salary versus lower English leagues, Scotland chances and all in your own back yard. That’s the sell. It won’t work for every one but we need to find the ones it works for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 The 32-year-old was released by the Ibrox club on deadline day and despite interest from Kilmarnock is unlikely to join the Rugby Park club. Record Sport revealed that Kilmarnock wanted to sign Dorrans. They were keen on a loan deal but they don’t have the financial pull to do the deal on a permanent basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Thebigguy68 said: We don’t have the financial money, on average, to pay players as much, true. An offer of employment has other factors beyond salary ( although that I accept is the primary piece). I’m all for 3 or 4 players getting a higher salary than the others. It’s a Scottish working class thing that all folks doing the “ same” job get paid the same. We should have our galacticos equivalent in our squad. Secondly, how many league 1 and 2 clubs players in England got Scotland caps in the last few years? Not many. Would Taylor, Findlay or SOD got caps - leading to much bigger steps forward likely - if playing for Sc**thorpe or Luton. Also, Scottish folks don’t aleays settle well away from home in football terms. Playing for a top team with European aspirations, on a somewhat competing salary versus lower English leagues, Scotland chances and all in your own back yard. That’s the sell. It won’t work for every one but we need to find the ones it works for. Most examples of 'breaking the bank' or 'pushing the boat' out for a big signing on high wages tend to lead the break up of squads and general discontent. As soon as a club with limited finances sets someone apart, every agent worth their salt starts asking for the same for their clients too. SOD would be the perfect example of this. Say we go big on someone on £5k or £6k - his agent would be in the next morning with the reasonable take that his player has been comfortably one of our best players, very consistent, a Scotland international, and has scored a couple of goals, so he'd like the same. Then Findlay, then Brophy. Pretty soon you have a completely unsustainable model based on the idea that you can create 'Galactico' tier. It's basically the method we used to bring in Cocard. Now, I really liked the guy, but it's proved to be unsustainable and didn't really lead to any discernible, sustained difference. All that said, I'm obviously not against a 'name' signing every now and then. Just need to temper it by acknowledging that it's better to have a sustainable long-term Killie: something which remains a little too fresh in the memory as a major doubt. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fankle Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Prahakillie said: o we don't have the financial muscle to compete with League 1 sides. If Killie entered the English league, League 1 would be about our level. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, heynow2005 said: Pisses me off that we dont have the financial muscle to complete with a league In which 1 team just went bust and another was a bawhair off it. Bolton's new owners need to restock the playing staff since so many players, eg Magennis, exercised their right to walk out. They will be paying competitive League One wages, which are higher than ours. Pompey get home crowds of 18,000 at higher admission prices than ours so no doubt about their financial muscle. Fleetwood aren't well supported - around 3,000 - but seem to punch above their weight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, skygod said: Fleetwood aren't well supported - around 3,000 - but seem to punch above their weight. Their manager certainly does... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Dorrans with his history of injuries isn't the kind of player that you would pay over the odds for even if we had the money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieBantam Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Fankle said: If Killie entered the English league, League 1 would be about our level. No it wouldnt. Killie couldn't compete financially of put straight into the league. League 2 would be our level. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Fankle said: If Killie entered the English league, League 1 would be about our level. steve Clarke would have taken us to the premiership tho 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieBantam Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, aldo said: steve Clarke would have taken us to the premiership tho Well aye, but he's gone so won't. Get over it. Edited September 3, 2019 by KillieBantam -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty66 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, aldo said: steve Clarke would have taken us to the premiership tho Mmmm he couldn't do it with Reading so I doubt it. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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