BigYin Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I was hoping Fowler might be able to use his contacts to persuade McGeouch to come here but we’ll not be able to compete with Aberdeen and also Hibs who are interested. Liam Henderson out of favour at Verona and looking to move? Always thought he was a talent, could we tempt him back even on loan here especially as he’s spoken about his Scotland aspirations. Don’t know if it would be financially do-able? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbinho Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, kilm53 said: No news is good news....so they say That's what we thought in the summer. And look how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Nothing at all from the club really. They must be back training by now surely ? All the bigger teams in league are abroad on training camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojike and Bod Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Souleycouley93 said: Nothing at all from the club really. They must be back training by now surely ? All the bigger teams in league are abroad on training camps. Not just the bigger teams Livi are in La Manga and will be playing Anderlecht and Ajax reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mojike and Bod said: Not just the bigger teams Livi are in La Manga and will be playing Anderlecht and Ajax reserves. Everyone above us in the league is. We probably won’t play any friendlies and come back rusty into a Scottish cup tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangodog Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 The pitch that Celtic are training on looked barer than a bad amateur pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) I strongly believe our model as a club should be acquiring players cheaply, developing them and selling them on at a profit. The only recent example of where we have succeeded in this is with Coulibaly. Jones and O'Donnell could have yielded a profit but it looks like they will both have been allowed to leave for free. The same can't be allowed happen with Findlay and Brophy, if we can possibly help it, and we need to develop our scouting network to find more talent. If allied to a more productive youth system, the club should be financially stable. Signing players like McGeouch, other than on loan, isn't the best use of our limited resources. Edited January 7, 2020 by skygod -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdevoy Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, skygod said: ......................, isn't the best use of our limited resources. My issue is I do not see any use at all of our limited resources in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Souleycouley93 said: Berra is finished. Whelan also. Whelan has gone too now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, gdevoy said: So not even a dodgy rumour so far........................ I'll start then. Scott Sinclair leaving the Tim's... apparently grew up a Killie fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbinho Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Bullitt said: I'll start then. Scott Sinclair leaving the Tim's... apparently grew up a Killie fan... He's going to Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngonge88 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, skygod said: I strongly believe our model as a club should be acquiring players cheaply, developing them and selling them on at a profit. The only recent example of where we have succeeded in this is with Coulibaly. Jones and O'Donnell could have yielded a profit but it looks like they will both have been allowed to leave for free. The same can't be allowed happen with Findlay and Brophy, if we can possibly help it, and we need to develop our scouting network to find more talent. If allied to a more productive youth system, the club should be financially stable. Signing players like McGeouch, other than on loan, isn't the best use of our limited resources. I agree and I disagree to an extent. Developing and selling is a great long term plan, however at the same time Steve Clarke delivered my favourite ever time being a kilmarnock supporter. He only ever had a short term plan with us, but it was amazing. If we can get 2 or 3 outstanding players at 30 year old and get 2/3 brilliant seasons out them and they go for free I'll be quite happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbinho Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ngonge88 said: I agree and I disagree to an extent. Developing and selling is a great long term plan, however at the same time Steve Clarke delivered my favourite ever time being a kilmarnock supporter. He only ever had a short term plan with us, but it was amazing. If we can get 2 or 3 outstanding players at 30 year old and get 2/3 brilliant seasons out them and they go for free I'll be quite happy. I'd agree. Whilst focussing solely on youth is a nice idea, it's not sustainable. It's modern day football for clubs of our size that we'll have to renew our squad with loan deals every 6/12 months, whilst signing who we can and bringing youth through where possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygod Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Barbinho said: Whilst focussing solely on youth is a nice idea, it's not sustainable. I wasn’t suggesting focussing solely on youth. I said that someone like McGeouch could be acquired on a loan basis, and even someone signed permanently doesn’t have to be youthful. To use the example of Coulibaly, Jones and O’Donnell again, none of them were especially young. We need to get away from the idea that players aged 21 and 22 are youths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piffer Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 St Mirren completed two deals Mentioned above today. Seem to have invested a bit of cash as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTRoss Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, piffer said: St Mirren completed two deals Mentioned above today. Seem to have invested a bit of cash as well. The defender they signed involved a fee and the other was a number 10 who has decent experience with Dundalk and St. Pats in europa league games. We have to get past this idea that we can't pay transfer fees, we're missing out on players like these who have potential that could then be sold on for profit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souleycouley93 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Nominal fees are about as much as we are arsed with. We must have 2 million sitting and the players we have brought in on loan etc will be on half what we paid last season. Branescu and DDF will not be getting cash from us. Probably same as Millar all will have clauses about playing. Maybe why Koprivec isn’t getting a chance. -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Souleycouley93 said: Nominal fees are about as much as we are arsed with. We must have 2 million sitting and the players we have brought in on loan etc will be on half what we paid last season. Branescu and DDF will not be getting cash from us. Probably same as Millar all will have clauses about playing. Maybe why Koprivec isn’t getting a chance. We have 2 million sitting? You for real 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mclean07 Posted January 7, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I think we should settle for three quality loans in this window to ensure safety, and start serious recruiting in the summer. Two reasons are 1) the difficulty in attracting the right permanent players in January and 2) the Manager’s long term future will be addressed in the summer. Pragmatism. 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historyman Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: I think we should settle for three quality loans in this window to ensure safety, and start serious recruiting in the summer. Two reasons are 1) the difficulty in attracting the right permanent players in January and 2) the Manager’s long term future will be addressed in the summer. Pragmatism. Exactly. Priority number one is ensuring we stay in the league. Based on recent performances that certainly isn't a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killie1961 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mclean07 said: I think we should settle for three quality loans in this window to ensure safety, and start serious recruiting in the summer. Two reasons are 1) the difficulty in attracting the right permanent players in January and 2) the Manager’s long term future will be addressed in the summer. Pragmatism. Maybe AD IS having a word in stevie clarkes ear on who to sign? -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee_Eck1979 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 By the time we have sorted a new manager in the summer then we will be back to square one. We always seem to be running at the cows tail, time to step up and get on the front foot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted January 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Kilmarnock need sign anyone this month 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKtid Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Craigieboy said: Kilmarnock need sign anyone this month Your standards have dropped Craigie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbinho Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Craigieboy said: Kilmarnock need sign anyone this month We really, really do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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